Stl Bills Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 On an unrelated note the thing that pisses me off about drunk driving most lies in the hands of the government. There is a 100% fool proof solution out there to almost completely rid the roads out there of drunk drivers....they are called ignition interlock devices. Why they are not mandatory on every vehicle is beyond me. If driving is considered a privledge and not a right why not make it mandatory that these devices be place on all new cars produced. Its a simply, inexpensive technology that would save thousands of lives. The only reason I can think of that they are not mandatory is the govt. doesn't want to lose all the revenue generated from drunk driving convictions. If that's the case, it is completely irresponsible to let drunks drive and risk lives to generate money. If its not the case, somebody explain to me why these devices aren't mandatory on all new vehicles. So Chef, read my above post about ignition interlock devices. Can someone tell me why these aren't mandatory on all cars? If they could develop a device for Marijuana would you be OK with the legalization of Marijuana?
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 No, that is not the reason why there are far fewer traffic violations. Anyone who has ever smoked will tell you that marijuana is far less impairing than alcohol. I've been extremely high and extremely drunk, and the two are not even comparable. Not to mention pot is FAR easier to obtain than alcohol. If i want to drink i have to have someone buy it for me, but with marijuana all i have to do is call someone and they will deliver it to me. Your argument for keeping marijuana illegal is akin to making guns illegal because there will be more murders. Once again I'm not arguing that pot is more impairing than alcohol. I abused both of those I'm well aware of which !@#$s you up more. My point is, one more time, alcohol is currently legal and therefore should continute to be legal. Pot is not legal and, in my mind, legalizing it would put more impaired people out there which is not a good thing. And pot is easier to obtain? Most people who don't smoke pot have not clue how and where to get weed (that includes me) but we can buy alcohol almost on every street corner convenience store, gas station or super market.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 So Chef, read my above post about ignition interlock devices. Can someone tell me why these aren't mandatory on all cars? If they could develop a device for Marijuana would you be OK with the legalization of Marijuana? No, there are so many other ways an impaired person could hurt me, not just with a car.
Stl Bills Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 No, there are so many other ways an impaired person could hurt me, not just with a car. Really in what way could a pothead harm you aside from driving a car?
Fingon Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 No, there are so many other ways an impaired person could hurt me, not just with a car. And i could shoot you with a gun. Should guns be illegal because they can be used to murder someone?
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Once again I'm not arguing that pot is more impairing than alcohol. I abused both of those I'm well aware of which !@#$s you up more. My point is, one more time, alcohol is currently legal and therefore should continute to be legal. Pot is not legal and, in my mind, legalizing it would put more impaired people out there which is not a good thing. And pot is easier to obtain? Most people who don't smoke pot have not clue how and where to get weed (that includes me) but we can buy alcohol almost on every street corner convenience store, gas station or super market. so if only one thing gets to be legal, why dont we make the less impairing substance legal and the stronger substance illegal? also, we know you live in SF, dont act like obtaining weed is a big mystery. They have dispensaries all over the place, vending machines on the streets, and Oaksterdam is right over the bridge.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Really in what way could a pothead harm you aside from driving a car? eat up all your cookies before you get one.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 And i could shoot you with a gun. Should guns be illegal because they can be used to murder someone? You know you guys have some major reading comprehension. I've said many times I am not for them making anything currently legal illegal. But I am against making other harmful things legal.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Really in what way could a pothead harm you aside from driving a car? I'm going to let you dwell on that for awhile and come up with your own list.
Stl Bills Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 You know you guys have some major reading comprehension. I've said many times I am not for them making anything currently legal illegal. But I am against making other harmful things legal. What the hell kind of rational is that? What about my proposition to make ignition interlocks for alcohol mandatory on new cars? Would you support that?
McBeane Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I'm going to let you dwell on that for awhile and come up with your own list. I get it, you believe what the government told us back when it was first made illegal. They used propaganda to claim that weed made you go psycho and kill people. I'm dead serious.
Booster4324 Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 eat up all your cookies before you get one. Ahh the true reason comes into play.
Stl Bills Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I'm going to let you dwell on that for awhile and come up with your own list. Umm I did, that's why I asked the question.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 so if only one thing gets to be legal, why dont we make the less impairing substance legal and the stronger substance illegal? also, we know you live in SF, dont act like obtaining weed is a big mystery. They have dispensaries all over the place, vending machines on the streets, and Oaksterdam is right over the bridge. Did I say it was a mystery (man you guys must be high ) I said it was harder to get than alcohol. Making it legal would make it much easier to obtain. Hell I'd be buying it myself. That's the funning thing about this. If it was legal I'd buy it but I'm against making it legal. Still haven't heard from anyone what the advantages of making legal would be. I'll wait.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Umm I did, that's why I asked the question. Ok people riding bikes, doctors, dentists, mechanics working on my car and !@#$ing it up, hell stoned financial planners for god's sake. That is just off the top of my head.
Nervous Guy Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Did I say it was a mystery (man you guys must be high ) I said it was harder to get than alcohol. Making it legal would make it much easier to obtain. Hell I'd be buying it myself. That's the funning thing about this. If it was legal I'd buy it but I'm against making it legal. Still haven't heard from anyone what the advantages of making legal would be. I'll wait. The kids wouldn't be able to buy it!
Stl Bills Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Did I say it was a mystery (man you guys must be high ) I said it was harder to get than alcohol. Making it legal would make it much easier to obtain. Hell I'd be buying it myself. That's the funning thing about this. If it was legal I'd buy it but I'm against making it legal. Still haven't heard from anyone what the advantages of making legal would be. I'll wait. 1. It would create a lot of jobs. 2. You could tax the crap out of it. Those two alone are enough for me.
Stl Bills Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 3. You'd get rid of most the violence/crime involved with the illegal drug trade (the marijuana drug trade anyway) as the illegal marijuana drug trade would no longer exist.
Fingon Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 Did I say it was a mystery (man you guys must be high ) I said it was harder to get than alcohol. Making it legal would make it much easier to obtain. Hell I'd be buying it myself. That's the funning thing about this. If it was legal I'd buy it but I'm against making it legal. Still haven't heard from anyone what the advantages of making legal would be. I'll wait. Advantages: Fewer non-violent offenders in jail tax revenue a regulated product It would help stabilize Mexico, and decrease organized crime's profits Separate marijuana from other drugs decrease heavier drug use, as people will no longer need to go to drug dealers to get their weed. Harder for kids to get These are but a few.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 1. It would create a lot of jobs.2. You could tax the crap out of it. Those two alone are enough for me. 1. I may agree but there are other ways to create jobs 2. You may have not seen me post this but that is the lamest reason to make something legal. When I the first thing I hear out of people's mouth is to tax the crap out of it I cringe and get pissed....very pissed. Yeah giving the government more money is a great idea.
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