sharper802 Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The more I read this guy scares me. He has "short arms" and got beaten badly at the college level several times. I don't see this guy being the LT of the future - maybe RT but not LT. Also I wonder if his flaws were hidden by Kirk Ferntz and possibly some degree of unathleticism will be exposed in the Pros. The way I see it is if it is between him and Clausen I would trade down - LOL. I would trade down no matter who was there. I'd take Clausen over Bulaga at this point though.
H2o Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The more I read this guy scares me. He has "short arms" and got beaten badly at the college level several times. I don't see this guy being the LT of the future - maybe RT but not LT. Also I wonder if his flaws were hidden by Kirk Ferntz and possibly some degree of unathleticism will be exposed in the Pros. The way I see it is if it is between him and Clausen I would trade down - LOL. I would trade down no matter who was there. I'd take Clausen over Bulaga at this point though. The guy was solid all year long and kept the best DE in college football, Derrick Morgan, in check every time he lined up across from him in the bowl game I watched. I think he's going to be a quality starter in the NFL @ OT. He has good feet, good strength, drives through his opponent to finish blocks, and looks to make blocks downfield after the initial contact.
Steely Dan Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The more I read this guy scares me. He has "short arms" and got beaten badly at the college level several times. I don't see this guy being the LT of the future - maybe RT but not LT. Also I wonder if his flaws were hidden by Kirk Ferntz and possibly some degree of unathleticism will be exposed in the Pros. The way I see it is if it is between him and Clausen I would trade down - LOL. I would trade down no matter who was there. I'd take Clausen over Bulaga at this point though. Yeah, I've heard some knocks on him as well. Buddy Nix recently said this; “We’ve got a different opinion about some of the guys that we have. We’ve got a different opinion about how many guys can fill a need in the draft. Quarterback’s the same way. When it comes time, if we think there’s two left tackles in the draft that can come in and make an immediate impact that can play from Day 1, that’s what we expect from a top-10 choice. But we don’t always get what we want. It’s like Christmas time. You don’t always get what you’re looking for.” It's said as a hypothetical but has undertones, to me, of really believing there are only two tackles worth starting from day 1. I don't think Bulaga is one of them.
CarolinaBill Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 bulaga is a RT, and RT are NOT top 10 picks, plain and simple
Packerland Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 Bulaga had trouble with Brandon Graham of Michigan. Graham is one of the top pass rushers in the draft and is going to go in the first round. I've never heard about struggling in several games. He's a safer pick than Trent Williams or Anthony Davis but has less upside.
Niagara Bill Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The guy was solid all year long and kept the best DE in college football, Derrick Morgan, in check every time he lined up across from him in the bowl game I watched. I think he's going to be a quality starter in the NFL @ OT. He has good feet, good strength, drives through his opponent to finish blocks, and looks to make blocks downfield after the initial contact. Solid is not what you want at #9 the only sure thing at 9 may be Spillner and then tackle in the second round
BillsVet Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 Bulaga had trouble with Brandon Graham of Michigan. Graham is one of the top pass rushers in the draft and is going to go in the first round. I've never heard about struggling in several games. He's a safer pick than Trent Williams or Anthony Davis but has less upside. In the fall of 2007, I saw Vernon Gholston beat up on Jake Long in the OSU-Michigan game. Two years later, Gholston is perhaps the biggest bust of the past 5 years and Long is closing in on being a top notch LOT. Heck, Bryant McKinnie was outstanding in college, but he's never been a Walter Jones or Orlando Pace type LOT. The point is, college production is nice, but this team needs to determine who'll succeed in the pros.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The more I read this guy scares me. He has "short arms" and got beaten badly at the college level several times. I don't see this guy being the LT of the future - maybe RT but not LT. Also I wonder if his flaws were hidden by Kirk Ferntz and possibly some degree of unathleticism will be exposed in the Pros. The way I see it is if it is between him and Clausen I would trade down - LOL. I would trade down no matter who was there. I'd take Clausen over Bulaga at this point though. You got it. Ever since the can`t miss Big Mike pick I`ve been really scared of picking O-tackles in the top ten. Like Buddy said pick the best player at that time ,that can start from day one. Why pick the 3rd or 4th best at his position here? It`s not like we are a star studded team.
Billsfan=pain Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The more I read this guy scares me. He has "short arms" and got beaten badly at the college level several times. I don't see this guy being the LT of the future - maybe RT but not LT. Also I wonder if his flaws were hidden by Kirk Ferntz and possibly some degree of unathleticism will be exposed in the Pros. The way I see it is if it is between him and Clausen I would trade down - LOL. I would trade down no matter who was there. I'd take Clausen over Bulaga at this point though. I agree with you completly. You don't take a LT with short arms, and as much as I want a QB in Buffalo, you cannot take a QB with 9 in hands. I played QB in Highschool and I wished my hands were bigger when it was cold or it rained.
bkc Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 bulaga is a RT, and RT are NOT top 10 picks, plain and simple agreed and it sucks that we might not find a left tackle
DarthICE Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 The more I read this guy scares me. He has "short arms" and got beaten badly at the college level several times. I don't see this guy being the LT of the future - maybe RT but not LT. Also I wonder if his flaws were hidden by Kirk Ferntz and possibly some degree of unathleticism will be exposed in the Pros. The way I see it is if it is between him and Clausen I would trade down - LOL. I would trade down no matter who was there. I'd take Clausen over Bulaga at this point though. The guy is a RT in the NFL and you dont' draft Right Tackles that high.
DarthICE Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 agreed and it sucks that we might not find a left tackle Where do you guys get this crap? The LT in San Diego that Nix is a huge part of drafting is probowl talent and a SECOND round pick! I swear to God guys come on. The talent from pick about #5 or so through the entire 2nd round is the same! This is a DEEP draft. There are guys in this draft that will be 4th round picks that will have 10+ year careers with multiple pro bowl apperances. Thank God Nix is in charge and not most posting on message boards.
Sig1Hunter Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 agreed and it sucks that we might not find a left tackle You do realize that good players, and even Pro Bowl ones, are often found in rounds not named 1, right?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 In the fall of 2007, I saw Vernon Gholston beat up on Jake Long in the OSU-Michigan game. Two years later, Gholston is perhaps the biggest bust of the past 5 years and Long is closing in on being a top notch LOT. Heck, Bryant McKinnie was outstanding in college, but he's never been a Walter Jones or Orlando Pace type LOT. The point is, college production is nice, but this team needs to determine who'll succeed in the pros. Good discussion by all posters. There are lots of people on this board who insist we come away with a tackle, particularly in the first round. That may or may not happen depending upon who is there at our pick. The consensus is that there are no Tony Bosellis, Walter Jones, Orlando Paces, in this draft. I personally think Bulaga will be fine. A solid LEFT tackle but maybe not quite as good as Jake Long. He may be as good or better than Logan Mankins or Joe Staley...but both of those guys were drafted at the end of the first round, and neither player is elite. Again, all the top tackles this year have flaws. The guys with no questions about their football temperament have physical questions. The physically talented guys have questions about their temperament.
bkc Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 Some NFL personnel evaluators reportedly believe that Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga is the most overrated prospect in this year's draft. "It'll shock you when I say this, but I know some people have him graded out as a third-round pick," said one personnel man. "A lot of pass rushers beat him badly last year. And if you watch that film, and add in that his arms are shorter than you'd like a tackle to have, how high can you take him? I know he's well-coached...(but) he's falling a bit in some people's eyes." Source: SI.com
bkc Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 Where do you guys get this crap? The LT in San Diego that Nix is a huge part of drafting is probowl talent and a SECOND round pick! I swear to God guys come on. The talent from pick about #5 or so through the entire 2nd round is the same! This is a DEEP draft. There are guys in this draft that will be 4th round picks that will have 10+ year careers with multiple pro bowl apperances. Thank God Nix is in charge and not most posting on message boards. no one is arguing this i s a not is a deep draft, it is not a deep tackle draft. Developing a tackle is one thing and that can cleary be done but the teams needs a day one left tackle and that is why people are advocating a first round pick be used for one. I am exciting for what buddy will do in the draft and I thing we will come away with 3,4 maybe 5 starters
McBeane Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 My ideal first two rounds would be: 1. Clausen 2. Saffold Saffold is a true player and many people feel he is one of the top 2-3 true LT prospects. I think he would be our starter at LT for the next 10 years. And to be honest, Bulaga and his short arms scare me. An RT isn't a Top 10 need.
bkc Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 You do realize that good players, and even Pro Bowl ones, are often found in rounds not named 1, right? of course we understand that pro bowl players come from all rounds . However, this is not a deep tackle drafft and we do not have a left tackle on the roster worth a dam right now. The perfect scenerio would have been find a day one starter to plug in to the spot. It is becoming clear that is not going to happen.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 Funny isn't it? Clausen in some people's eyes went from having small hands to having "tiny hands." Bulaga went from being a solid left tackle prospect to being a right tackle or even...a guard. The word that comes to my mind is hysteria. The truth is somewhere in the middle and very few of us know the truth of these matters. But that doesn't stop many from making assertions as indisputable fact. Very funny stuff.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 Funny isn't it? Clausen in some people's eyes went from having small hands to having "tiny hands." Bulaga went from being a solid left tackle prospect to being a right tackle or even...a guard. The word that comes to my mind is hysteria. The truth is somewhere in the middle and very few of us know the truth of these matters. But that doesn't stop many from making assertions as indisputable fact. Very funny stuff. It`s all a gamble. There are no sure thing ,can`t miss players. It just comes down to who you think is a better player and seems like he will work out.
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