ExiledInIllinois Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I wonder who Native Americans thought were the terrorists? When it comes to terrorism, it's better to give than to receive. I don't know... There was some nasty one's in WNY... Namely the Seneca. What is in the water up there? That nastiness even transcended into WNY's debt collection industry! Are they terrorists too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I wonder who Native Americans thought were the terrorists? When it comes to terrorism, it's better to give than to receive. Ask the Erie Indians. If you can find one When this army of invaders had surrounded one of the Erie strongholds, the converted chief gently asked the besieged to surrender, lest they be destroyed should they permit an assault, telling them: "The Master of Life fights for us; you will be ruined if you resist him." "Who is this. Master of our lives?" the Erie defiantly replied. "We acknowledge none but our arms and hatchets." No quarter was asked or given on either side in this war. After a stubborn resistance the Erie palisade was carried, and the Onondaga, "entered the fort and there wrought such carnage among the women and children that blood was knee-deep in certain places." This was at the town of Riqué, which was defended by between 3,000 and 4,000 combatants, exclusive of women and children, and was assailed by about 1,800 Iroquois. This devastating war lasted until about the close of 1656, when the Erie power was broken and the people were destroyed or dispersed or led into captivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 In that context aren't all slave owners and traders terrorists?... No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frit0 Bandit0 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 How many slaves became slave owners? (first one was from Virginia) What percentage of the slave owners were black? (If I remember correctly it was in the double digits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I wonder who the slaves thought the terrorists were. Would you consider John Brown to be a terrorist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Would you consider John Brown to be a terrorist? Most people don't. Which is kind-of bull ****, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Would you consider John Brown to be a terrorist? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Most people don't. Which is kind-of bull ****, really. That is because... Wait for it... Wait for it: "History is written by the winners." He may have lost his personal life after the riad... Yet it pushed us finally over the edge and into the Civil War. He was the catalyst for change. BTW... I think he's a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Would you consider John Brown to be a terrorist? Absolutely. From the point of view of the US government that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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