DC Tom Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 You don't think they were praying in that moment? Prayer doesn't preclude belief in science. I believe in science, and I'm praying right now that you'll go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Prayer doesn't preclude belief in science. I believe in science, and I'm praying right now that you'll go away. Evolution isn't science. It's junk science. It's propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Evolution isn't science. It's junk science. It's propaganda. Just wonderin, how old do you think the earth is? Ballpark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Just wonderin, how old do you think the earth is? Ballpark I can't imagine why you'd probe the depths of his beliefs. Bored today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Evolution isn't science. It's junk science. It's propaganda. Irrelevent to your point. You implied that someone can't accept evolution AND pray to God. That's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Just wonderin, how old do you think the earth is? Ballpark And you guys will just flame me for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Irrelevent to your point. You implied that someone can't accept evolution AND pray to God. That's not true. They can pray to god but it would be meaningless and insincere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 And you guys will just flame me for it. If you believe in your convictions then why would you care what any one else thinks? 5000 20,000 million billion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I can't imagine why you'd probe the depths of his beliefs. Bored today? Oh sweet baby Jesus, no you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 They can pray to god but it would be meaningless and insincere. Why? I mean, I assume you're talking about the Christian concept of salvation through acceptance of Jesus. But last I checked, that concept didn't require acceptance of Jesus and rejection of scientific inquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why? I mean, I assume you're talking about the Christian concept of salvation through acceptance of Jesus. But last I checked, that concept didn't require acceptance of Jesus and rejection of scientific inquiry. How can you pray to your creator without believing he created you? It would be an empty gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Evolution isn't science. It's junk science. It's propaganda. "Slack-jawed, stunned look"......... You think that everything is the way it always was. Nothing evolves. Not animals, plants, organisms, viruses......nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 How can you pray to your creator without believing he created you? It would be an empty gesture. Do you think maybe God could have created evolution, and thus created man? Why did he have to create us in our current form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Do you think maybe God could have created evolution, and thus created man? Why did he have to create us in our current form? Why would god do that? Then you'd have to believe that god is imperfect when it's pretty clear god knew what he wanted to create right from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Is it immoral that the dinosaurs don't exist anymore? Of course it is. If they had liberal nutjobs back then, dinosaurs would have been on the 'endangered species' list, because absolutely nothing happens naturally on this planet. It's all a direct result of human existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why would god do that? Then you'd have to believe that god is imperfect when it's pretty clear god knew what he wanted to create right from the start. Are you really asking why god would do something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why would god do that? Then you'd have to believe that god is imperfect when it's pretty clear god knew what he wanted to create right from the start. Why wouldn't God do that? How is God's intent clear from the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why would god do that? Then you'd have to believe that god is imperfect when it's pretty clear god knew what he wanted to create right from the start. Haven't we already established (in this thread) that there are a thousand pieces of evidence to suggest that "god" is imperfect? Even if "it" was perfect, why does "it" have to be perfect within the constraints of the human interpretation of "perfection." You'll probably readily admit that you can't grasp the vast complexities of "god," so who the !@#$ are you to define what makes "it" "perfect" and what makes "it" "imperfect?" I don't use "it" to insult you, I just refuse to assign "god" a gender. Assuming god even exists, I doubt it has a either a penis, or a vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Why would god do that? Then you'd have to believe that god is imperfect when it's pretty clear god knew what he wanted to create right from the start. Ah, so not only do you know that there is a god...you know his will! It must be nice for God to have a right-hand man like you. But just for ***** and giggles, let's follow your logic. - God is perfect - God, being perfect, would want to create perfect things - Human beings are God's perfect creation - Evolution is unnecessary, and thus imperfect - Therefore, the imperfect process of evolution could not have created humans Let's think of some other imperfect things...how about war? Tay Sachs Disease? Black people? Didn't God create those things? Does that mean he's imperfect? (I included the last one so I could relate to you a little better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Haven't we already established (in this thread) that there are a thousand pieces of evidence to suggest that "god" is imperfect? Even if "it" was perfect, why does "it" have to be perfect within the constraints of the human interpretation of "perfection." You'll probably readily admit that you can't grasp the vast complexities of "god," so who the !@#$ are you to define what makes "it" "perfect" and what makes "it" "imperfect?" I don't use "it" to insult you, I just refuse to assign "god" a gender. Assuming god even exists, I doubt it has a either a penis, or a vagina. "Him" is the accepted gender-neutral pronoun. And God can have whatever genitalia he wants. He can be a three-dicked martian if He so chooses. He's freakin' God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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