WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 No, it doesn't, as long he's a natural-born citizen. Ref: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...p;#entry1812332 That's your opinion. Many constitutional scholars would disagree with you.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 That's your opinion. Many constitutional scholars would disagree with you. That's not my opinion. That's Title 8, Section 1401 of the US Code.
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 That's not my opinion. That's Title 8, Section 1401 of the US Code. Your interpretation of it. Many people would disagree with that,
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Your interpretation of it. Many people would disagree with that, No, it's not my interpretation. Title 8, Section 1401 of the US Code says that if a person is born outside the US with at least one parent a US citizen who's spent at least five years previous in the US, two of which are after the age of 18, then the person born is born a US citizen. That's not an interpretation, that is actually the law.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted April 7, 2010 Author Posted April 7, 2010 No, it's not my interpretation. Title 8, Section 1401 of the US Code says that if a person is born outside the US with at least one parent a US citizen who's spent at least five years previous in the US, two of which are after the age of 18, then the person born is born a US citizen. That's not an interpretation, that is actually the law. Citizen, yes. But not the required "natural born citizen" which is required to be president.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Citizen, yes. But not the required "natural born citizen" which is required to be president. If you are BORN A CITIZEN, you are a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Citizen, yes. But not the required "natural born citizen" which is required to be president. Which is what I've been getting at but Tom doesn't understand it.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted April 7, 2010 Author Posted April 7, 2010 If you are BORN A CITIZEN, you are a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. That really is open for debate. From Wiki... Chester Arthur (born of an American mother and Irish father, purported birthplace of Canada) was sworn in as President, however his status as a "Natural born citizen" was challenged because he was born with British citizenship (therefore not jus sanguinis) and it is contended, on foreign soil (therefore not jus soli). Some argue that those born abroad to U.S. citizens are not eligible to ascend to the Presidency (not jus soli), since an act of the United States Congress such as the Naturalization Act may not overrule the Constitution.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 That really is open for debate. From Wiki... It really isn't. Perkins v. Elg, 1939: citizenship by birthright is natural born citizenship. Title 8 Section 1401 defines citizenship by birthright. QED, Obama, being a citizen by birthright EVEN IF BORN IN KENYA is a natural born citizen.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted April 7, 2010 Author Posted April 7, 2010 It really isn't. Perkins v. Elg, 1939: citizenship by birthright is natural born citizenship. Title 8 Section 1401 defines citizenship by birthright. QED, Obama, being a citizen by birthright EVEN IF BORN IN KENYA is a natural born citizen. Let him go screw up Kenya then.
Chef Jim Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Let him go screw up Kenya then. I think he's been beaten to the punch on that one.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Let him go screw up Kenya then. So that's what it really comes down to: not questions about his eligibility, but that you simply don't like him. Then just say that: you don't like him. Don't make up bull **** to justify it. Just say you don't like him.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted April 7, 2010 Author Posted April 7, 2010 So that's what it really comes down to: not questions about his eligibility, but that you simply don't like him. Then just say that: you don't like him. Don't make up bull **** to justify it. Just say you don't like him. I don't like him.
keepthefaith Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Your interpretation of it. Many people would disagree with that, Obama is proving to be unworthy and unqualified to be President but his citizenship has nothing to do with it.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Obama is proving to be unworthy and unqualified to be President but his citizenship has nothing to do with it. Has more to do with his wearing a White Sox cap at a Nats game, of course...
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 So that's what it really comes down to: not questions about his eligibility, but that you simply don't like him. Then just say that: you don't like him. Don't make up bull **** to justify it. Just say you don't like him. This is just one of about 100 reasons not to like him.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 This is just one of about 100 reasons not to like him. You hate him because you think he was born in Kenya, even though it doesn't matter and he's got a Hawaii birth certificate anyway?
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 You hate him because you think he was born in Kenya, even though it doesn't matter and he's got a Hawaii birth certificate anyway? And he's dishonest.
DC Tom Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 And he's dishonest. He's a politician. QED. Has nothing to do with his citizenship.
WisconsinBillzFan Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 He's a politician. QED. Has nothing to do with his citizenship. QED?
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