WingDing Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 "Does Jim Kelly potentially have something of value to add to the Bills? Sure. Is it in the realm of picking players? Hell no. Link I love that Kelly is out there giving love to the Bill's, but he should be waiting until after the draft and go show his support to the players that Bill's actually put on their roster. Not out there trying to influence who they pick. This guy could end up on the Patriots roster for all we know.
Kingfish Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Gotta love Florio's penchant for printing the insults of anonymous sources. What journalistic ethics this guy has!
bowery4 Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 If we pick him at some point or not, is not up to Jim anyways. If he ends up part of a new ownership group, though he would just be doing what Ralph has done countless times.
DarthICE Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 "Does Jim Kelly potentially have something of value to add to the Bills? Sure. Is it in the realm of picking players? Hell no. Link I love that Kelly is out there giving love to the Bill's, but he should be waiting until after the draft and go show his support to the players that Bill's actually put on their roster. Not out there trying to influence who they pick. This guy could end up on the Patriots roster for all we know. Ummm so some obscure scout says that about kelly. I see...and that 'scout' had drafted who? Oh thats right no one..... he is a scout. How many probowls? None? Superbowl apperances? None? Is the guy a HOF member? No? Then said scout can STFU until he actually does something like kelly has. Until then, Go get the GM a cup of coffee and himself a cup of stfu.
Snorom Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Sounds like some scout is jealous that Kelly's opinion gets media press...
Alaska Darin Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Ummm so some obscure scout says that about kelly. I see...and that 'scout' had drafted who? Oh thats right no one..... he is a scout. How many probowls? None? Superbowl apperances? None? Is the guy a HOF member? No? Then said scout can STFU until he actually does something like kelly has. Until then, Go get the GM a cup of coffee and himself a cup of stfu. Another incredibly ignorant post.
BuffaloBill Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Until someone steps up and beats Kelly's accomplishments on the field he remains in a leadership role with the Bills. I love his passion for the team and the city.
NoSaint Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Until someone steps up and beats Kelly's accomplishments on the field he remains in a leadership role with the Bills. I love his passion for the team and the city. I think we all love what he did on the field, and his passion, but that doesnt include drafting/rating players. I am sure he watched a lot of tape on qbs, so his opinion does hold some extra weight, but lets be honest -- would you rather have a guy that was a successful player, or a guy that is a successful scout make the call? Neither is a lock but ill take my chance with the guy that has earned the position by evaluating players.
papazoid Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 #1- kelly is a paid "ambassador" of the bills......his job is to smooze. #2- kelly said he "liked" Tebow....who doesn't ?? (most think he's worth at least a 3rd rounder or better) #3- kelly made it perfectly clear that he was not qualified to put a "grade" , draft round recommendation or make a comparison to other players at other positions.
JohnC Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Until someone steps up and beats Kelly's accomplishments on the field he remains in a leadership role with the Bills. I love his passion for the team and the city. Jim Kelly has absolutely no leadership role with the Bills. He is on the payroll as a PR employee. No one in the front office asks him his opinion about prospects because they don't care what he thinks. He is not a scout nor pretends to be. He does not spend any time evaluating players. He is a PR person. I am not being critical of Jim Kelly. I have a tremendous amount of respect for what he has done promoting his cause of child screening. While a number of people have been critical of the region Jim Kelly has been a staunch and proud advocate for western NY.
NoSaint Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 #1- kelly is a paid "ambassador" of the bills......his job is to smooze. #2- kelly said he "liked" Tebow....who doesn't ?? (most think he's worth at least a 3rd rounder or better) #3- kelly made it perfectly clear that he was not qualified to put a "grade" , draft round recommendation or a comparison to other players at other positions. I agree with all of this -- its a fine line to walk though. I think sometimes he has stumbled over it a little bit. Example being calling out Trent in his original call for tebow. Whether or not you agree with him, I dont think its his place.... I do think hes earned a couple free passes, and a slip up here and there isnt a huge deal, as long as it isnt a major offense. I also appreciate that he came back to the comments, and toned them down some, admitting he isnt a scout, he just likes the guy based on what he does know.
transient Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 That was the journalistic equivalent of an angry poster. Kelly, himself, recognizes his role when he says he's not a talent evaluator. What I think he can do, from the years spent on the field/sidelines with other greats and not so greats, is to be able to look at a player and know what he's made of. Will this guy run through a wall for you. Is he about self, or will he put it all on the line for a teammate. I would trust him on that.
IHFO Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Gotta love Florio's penchant for printing the insults of anonymous sources. What journalistic ethics this guy has! ok...well personally, being a journalism major, i see nothing wrong with anonymous sources but whatever. way to overreact. If this was a post bashing the Pats* you wouldn't have a problem with it or the anonymous source...
Frit0 Bandit0 Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 The sooner Bills fans figure that out -- and the sooner the powers-that-be who are running the team explain it to him -- the better off the franchise will be. Okay. We'll try to work on that. "Guys like me that have committed our lives to our craft thank you, seriously. We desert our families and work our butts off to have clowns like this make a mockery of what we do." I'm laughing so hard I'm crying. the dangers of allowing former players Always wear a helmet and don't go alone!
Brandon Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 ok...well personally, being a journalism major, i see nothing wrong with anonymous sources but whatever. way to overreact. If this was a post bashing the Pats* you wouldn't have a problem with it or the anonymous source... On the other hand, anyone can engage in anonymous mudslinging. If you're going to rake someone over the coals using your professional experience to speak for your supposed expertise on the subject, don't be a coward and hide behind anonymity.
Lurker Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Gotta love Florio's penchant for printing the insults of anonymous sources. What journalistic ethics this guy has! This place needs a Florio-free zone...
Kingfish Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 ok...well personally, being a journalism major, i see nothing wrong with anonymous sources but whatever. way to overreact. If this was a post bashing the Pats* you wouldn't have a problem with it or the anonymous source... Anonymous sources are fine, just not when they're doing nothing more than hurling insults. If a scout had inside knowledge of Kelly overplaying his role with the team but he wanted to stay anonymous I'd be fine with that. But a scout using this as an opportunity to anonymously call Kelly a clown based on Florio's wacked out interpretation of Kelly's comments is lame. Besides, there probably is no scout just like there probably was no NFL GM ripping the hiring of Buddy Nix on PFT a few weeks ago.
Steely Dan Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Ummm so some obscure scout says that about kelly. I see...and that 'scout' had drafted who? Oh thats right no one..... he is a scout. How many probowls? None? Superbowl apperances? None? Is the guy a HOF member? No? Then said scout can STFU until he actually does something like kelly has. Until then, Go get the GM a cup of coffee and himself a cup of stfu. How many guys has Kelly drafted? How many times has he sat in the stands at a college game watching the players and taking notes? How many times has he spoken to a HC about a guy? The scout is right but he's making a mountain out of a mole hill. Kelly didn't say anything beyond what I feel is an opinion. I don't see a whole lot of damage here, if any. Until someone steps up and beats Kelly's accomplishments on the field he remains in a leadership role with the Bills. I love his passion for the team and the city. I like his role in Buffalo. He's a good guy who wants to keep the team in Buffalo.
KOKBILLS Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 I'm shocked at how uninformed Florio and this anonymous Scout are about the the actual situation...Jimbo was working as a "Welcome Wagon" of sorts I'm quite sure at the Bills request...What was Kelly going to say when asked..."I think the Kid sucks but The Bills asked me to be here so..." His "endorsement" of Tebow was hardly more than saying "I think The Kid can play and I think he'd be great in Buffalo..." Big freakin deal...He was not trying to be a Scout or trying to use his influence, whatever it is...He was there because he's a freaking HOF QB who Played and still lives in Buffalo...He's Mr. Buffalo to a lot of Folks...He was there to make Tebow feel welcome and nothing more...I can't image for a single second that Buddy Nix or Chan Gailey is looking for Kelly's endorsement or Scouting Report on Tebow...They are going to do what they are going to do regardless...Anyone with a lick of sense knows that...So what's Mr Anonymous getting his panties all up in a wad about? Whatever...
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