1B4IDie Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 If Okung is there take him (not likely) if not then if Beluga is there take him (less likely) if not then If Derrick Morgan is there (take him) * If not then take Jimmy Clausen (not a fan but he is growing on me) If not then Spillers most likely will be on the board (look for trading partner) If no trade available then the Bills are screwed maybe Trent Williams RT \McClain (this is not ideal but you got to work with what happens) *The more and more I think of options and 1.09. The more and more I'm getting comfortable with Derrick Morgan not saying he is #1 on the list but given who will be drafted #1-8, he could be a good safety net pick If you look at the tackles: Okung will be gone. Buluga is likely to be gone as well. (If he is there you need to give some prayers of thanks, and he will be the no-brain-er pick {ike Orapko was a no-brain-er last year}) The Consensus on Trent Williams is that he will be an NFL RT (Which we need.) The drop off in talent to the next group of Tackles is pretty big. Bruce Campbell is a athletic RAW freak. Anthony Davis is a knucklehead Derrick Morgan is going to be a good DE with stud potential, plus if Gaily helped recruit him and or already knows if he has the right personality to be successful it makes even more sense. If Derrick Morgan is there at 9 it would be nice to have someone that can put pressure on a QB and if Maybi ever transitions to a LB and if he can rush on the same side or opposite, that could be nice. (Maybi getting significant, deserved PT is a thing of dreams) Dan Williams from Tennessee is starting to pop up in my reading a needed Big Ugly, will never get big stats but can help with our horrible run defense. Him and Stoud on the same line gives us some beef in the middle. But he may be more of 4-3 player. If no tackle is taken is taken at 1.09 Then at 2.09 Charles Brown, USC (Raw needs weight) or Rodger Saffold (Talked about as the "sleeper LT" of the draft) should be there. Both of those players are maybe less raw talent or less practice than Anthony Davis but also less knucleheadeness.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 If Okung is there take him (not likely) if not then if Beluga is there take him (less likely) if not then If Derrick Morgan is there (take him) * If not then take Jimmy Clausen (not a fan but he is growing on me) If not then Spillers most likely will be on the board (look for trading partner) If no trade available then the Bills are screwed maybe Trent Williams RT \McClain (this is not ideal but you got to work with what happens) *The more and more I think of options and 1.09. The more and more I'm getting comfortable with Derrick Morgan not saying he is #1 on the list but given who will be drafted #1-8, he could be a good safety net pick If you look at the tackles: Okung will be gone. Buluga is likely to be gone as well. (If he is there you need to give some prayers of thanks, and he will be the no-brain-er pick {ike Orapko was a no-brain-er last year}) The Consensus on Trent Williams is that he will be an NFL RT (Which we need.) The drop off in talent to the next group of Tackles is pretty big. Bruce Campbell is a athletic RAW freak. Anthony Davis is a knucklehead Derrick Morgan is going to be a good DE with stud potential, plus if Gaily helped recruit him and or already knows if he has the right personality to be successful it makes even more sense. If Derrick Morgan is there at 9 it would be nice to have someone that can put pressure on a QB and if Maybi ever transitions to a LB and if he can rush on the same side or opposite, that could be nice. (Maybi getting significant, deserved PT is a thing of dreams) Dan Williams from Tennessee is starting to pop up in my reading a needed Big Ugly, will never get big stats but can help with our horrible run defense. Him and Stoud on the same line gives us some beef in the middle. But he may be more of 4-3 player. If no tackle is taken is taken at 1.09 Then at 2.09 Charles Brown, USC (Raw needs weight) or Rodger Saffold (Talked about as the "sleeper LT" of the draft) should be there. Both of those players are less maybe raw talent then or less practice than Anthony Davis but also less knucleheadeness. you copying my draft?
1B4IDie Posted April 2, 2010 Author Posted April 2, 2010 you copying my draft? Awesome, I was hoping there would be some consensus on this board around this logic. The only argument I expect is the Golden Domers clamoring for Clausen over all else.
Slayers Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Awesome, I was hoping there would be some consensus on this board around this logic. The only argument I expect is the Golden Domers clamoring for Clausen over all else. Clausen is going to be a bust I hope and pry we don't have another brain fart and draft that kid
Thurman#1 Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Clausen is going to be a bust Or not. I don't like Morgan up so high. To me, he should be after Dan Williams. Morgan's a hell of an athlete, but may be too big for a 3 - 4 OLB, especially a rush OLB. Not sure he's fast enough to stand up and get there. Very few guys play that position at 272. Average is somewhere around 240 to 260, with a very few creeping higher. I like him, but am not sure he would fit the system. Williams, on the other hand, is big enough and has good enough leverage to play NT in a 3 - 4. I personally put Clausen above Bulaga, because of the Golden Rule of the Draft: NEVER pass on a franchise QB unless you already have one on the roster. And we don't. I don't expect Clausen to be there, though, so this shouldn't cause friction.
ndirish1978 Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Clausen is going to be a bust I hope and pry we don't have another brain fart and draft that kid As someone who has seen every one of his games I don't think he will be a bust at all. That said, we have much greater needs on this team. We MUST go NT/LT in the first if we can. I know we need a QB, but you have to build a team through the lines first. I wouldn't even take anyone who isn't a NT/T/OLB until the 5th round.
bkc Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 my question is where is morgan playing. I have read two schools of thought on him 1 he can play in the 3/4 two he can not play in the 3/4 / We need a left tackle and a Nose tackle just to line up a team
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 If Okung is there take him (not likely) if not then if Beluga is there take him (less likely) if not then If Derrick Morgan is there (take him) * If not then take Jimmy Clausen (not a fan but he is growing on me) If not then Spillers most likely will be on the board (look for trading partner) If no trade available then the Bills are screwed maybe Trent Williams RT \McClain (this is not ideal but you got to work with what happens) *The more and more I think of options and 1.09. The more and more I'm getting comfortable with Derrick Morgan not saying he is #1 on the list but given who will be drafted #1-8, he could be a good safety net pick If you look at the tackles: Okung will be gone. Buluga is likely to be gone as well. (If he is there you need to give some prayers of thanks, and he will be the no-brain-er pick {ike Orapko was a no-brain-er last year}) The Consensus on Trent Williams is that he will be an NFL RT (Which we need.) The drop off in talent to the next group of Tackles is pretty big. Bruce Campbell is a athletic RAW freak. Anthony Davis is a knucklehead Derrick Morgan is going to be a good DE with stud potential, plus if Gaily helped recruit him and or already knows if he has the right personality to be successful it makes even more sense. If Derrick Morgan is there at 9 it would be nice to have someone that can put pressure on a QB and if Maybi ever transitions to a LB and if he can rush on the same side or opposite, that could be nice. (Maybi getting significant, deserved PT is a thing of dreams) Dan Williams from Tennessee is starting to pop up in my reading a needed Big Ugly, will never get big stats but can help with our horrible run defense. Him and Stoud on the same line gives us some beef in the middle. But he may be more of 4-3 player. If no tackle is taken is taken at 1.09 Then at 2.09 Charles Brown, USC (Raw needs weight) or Rodger Saffold (Talked about as the "sleeper LT" of the draft) should be there. Both of those players are maybe less raw talent or less practice than Anthony Davis but also less knucleheadeness. Actually Maybin was the ultimate NO-BRAINER.
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Trade up and get Okung... Probably won't happen but I like it.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Awesome, I was hoping there would be some consensus on this board around this logic. The only argument I expect is the Golden Domers clamoring for Clausen over all else. Yeah I had Rd 1 Morgan Rd 2harlie Brown Rd 3 Linval Joseph Look up his combine numbers and size before you people start beeching .Rd 4 Ben Tate seeya Marshawn ..not a waterbug fan. you can smash them easily.
peanuts Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Trade up and get Okung... Thats is a thought many haven't mentioned. I am for trading up for the Big Okung 100%. This is a great idea!
/dev/null Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Bruce Campbell is a athletic RAW freak. It's that chin Imagine if Cowher became Bills coach and we drafted Bruce Campbell The only thing that could possibly stop the Bills Chin Power is Chuck Norris beard
BADOLBILZ Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 IMO it's a bad idea to project in your mind who the Bills will select. If you are a draft fan, evaluate the players and decide who you would pick. If you are just a Bills fan, don't bother. You'll likely just be pissed off on draft day because the organization routinely makes bad decisions. I finally learned this a few years back and I've never had an unhappy draft weekend since.
NewEra Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 If Okung is there take him (not likely) if not then if Beluga is there take him (less likely) if not then If Derrick Morgan is there (take him) * If not then take Jimmy Clausen (not a fan but he is growing on me) If not then Spillers most likely will be on the board (look for trading partner) If no trade available then the Bills are screwed maybe Trent Williams RT \McClain (this is not ideal but you got to work with what happens) *The more and more I think of options and 1.09. The more and more I'm getting comfortable with Derrick Morgan not saying he is #1 on the list but given who will be drafted #1-8, he could be a good safety net pick If you look at the tackles: Okung will be gone. Buluga is likely to be gone as well. (If he is there you need to give some prayers of thanks, and he will be the no-brain-er pick {ike Orapko was a no-brain-er last year}) The Consensus on Trent Williams is that he will be an NFL RT (Which we need.) The drop off in talent to the next group of Tackles is pretty big. Bruce Campbell is a athletic RAW freak. Anthony Davis is a knucklehead Derrick Morgan is going to be a good DE with stud potential, plus if Gaily helped recruit him and or already knows if he has the right personality to be successful it makes even more sense. If Derrick Morgan is there at 9 it would be nice to have someone that can put pressure on a QB and if Maybi ever transitions to a LB and if he can rush on the same side or opposite, that could be nice. (Maybi getting significant, deserved PT is a thing of dreams) Dan Williams from Tennessee is starting to pop up in my reading a needed Big Ugly, will never get big stats but can help with our horrible run defense. Him and Stoud on the same line gives us some beef in the middle. But he may be more of 4-3 player. If no tackle is taken is taken at 1.09 Then at 2.09 Charles Brown, USC (Raw needs weight) or Rodger Saffold (Talked about as the "sleeper LT" of the draft) should be there. Both of those players are maybe less raw talent or less practice than Anthony Davis but also less knucleheadeness. then we're stuck with Trent/Fitz/Brohm and maybe LeFevour/Skelton maybe McCoy. UGH I'm praying for Clausen or Tebow.
Wagon Circler Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 There are so many needs on this team and Morgan would fill one of them. My pick is Bulaga if he is there.
Celtic_soulja Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 I think trading up is definitely an option with Washington looking at a QB so hardcore...we could get up to four and have a good shot at Okung...of course you only do that if he or Suh isn't off the board...also Detriot has said they are not against trading down and we could definitely get Okung then...plus we can use a second or third on Linval Joseph/Cody that can play NT at a very high level...so I don't know...I think it's feasible...and think the Bills should try, but with the depth nobody is really looking to trade up...we get Okung you're looking at a completely different O Line....Okung, Levitre, Hangartner, Wood, Green/Meredith/Bell...I say Green...but whatever...you got three young guys with probowls in thier futures and two decent hardnose fillers...that's dangerous for our Backfield...and Edwards/Fitzy could both be efficient behind that line...Jackson and Lynch would dominate...and though we'll still be short an OLB possibly, we can keep the ball long enough to be competitive...
billsfan89 Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 The way I look at it is the best case scenario's for the Bills is to have Buluga fall to us. Here is a possible way for it to turn out 1- Bradford 2- Suh 3- McCoy 4- Clausen 5- Berry/McClain 6- Okung 7- Haden/McClain/Morgan/Berry 8- Its the !@#$ing Raiders so they take someone off the board 9- Buluga Basically it comes down to the Redskins or Seattle. If both decide to go LT then we are screwed and it looks like McClain will have to be our guy just to fill a need and avoid a reach. The Raiders hopefully draft off the board as well. I feel like Buluga will be a solid top 10-12 LT (Not top 5 but really solid) and would fill such a huge need. Then once we get a LT like Buluga we can focus our 2nd round pick on getting some front 7 help.
1B4IDie Posted April 3, 2010 Author Posted April 3, 2010 Actually Maybin was the ultimate NO-BRAINER. Nice! btw I'm refering to Him as Maybi as in Maybi he can convert to LB Maybi he can stay above 240 lbs Maybi he can be worth his draft pick some day.
1B4IDie Posted April 3, 2010 Author Posted April 3, 2010 The way I look at it is the best case scenario's for the Bills is to have Buluga fall to us.Here is a possible way for it to turn out 1- Bradford 2- Suh 3- McCoy 4- Clausen 5- Berry/McClain 6- Okung 7- Haden/McClain/Morgan/Berry 8- Its the !@#$ing Raiders so they take someone off the board 9- Buluga Basically it comes down to the Redskins or Seattle. If both decide to go LT then we are screwed and it looks like McClain will have to be our guy just to fill a need and avoid a reach. The Raiders hopefully draft off the board as well. I feel like Buluga will be a solid top 10-12 LT (Not top 5 but really solid) and would fill such a huge need. Then once we get a LT like Buluga we can focus our 2nd round pick on getting some front 7 help. You're right. Deadskins and Seagulls are the key. I only hope Beluga is there.
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