Thurman#1 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...coming-rookies/ i would downgrade everyone of them as not being too smart. "But plenty of them also have a weakness for a girl named . . . Marijuana." My God, that's bad writing. Florio is always a bit ham-handed, but usually it doesn't stick out so much.
papazoid Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 It's important to note that NFL club officials in this case are only referencing failed drug tests administered by the prospect's college that wind up on his background report, not the drug tests the league conducts as part of the scouting process at last month's NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writ...html?xid=cnnbin
silvermike Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I mean, on the other hand, the bottom line is this: College is a fun time to experiment, and I don't begrudge anyone a weed habit. But if you're a top round pick, you're probably a decade away from being 32, retired, and with a net worth of $15M. The most you'll have to work is helping out your old high school team, and you can stay lightly baked for 40 years.
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 What was the reason the cops searched Lynch's car again, doc? Oh yeah, because they "saw and smelled pot." If marijuana were legal back last summer, do you think they'd still have searched his car? So predictable! Yeah, I think the Cali legislature is just about to pass that historic "Legal Driving While Under the Influence of Weed Law". Soon we will see happy Golden Staters toking down the highways as the ChiPs officers smile and wave at them. If only Marshawn had waited a while before parking that car with no license plates (that will no doubt be deemed not suspicious, and in fact legal also, eh?).As usual, you'll say anything to defend a loser argument. Just because he didn't get a parking ticket, it doesn't mean that his first rape charge wasn't a serious one/black eye for the league. But this all goes back to Goodell's cavalier attitude towards violence against women, as evidenced by his equally shameful handling of Brandon Marshall. Goodell is more concerned about a violent crime like a loaded gun in a backpack in the trunk of someone's car. But now after a sit down, will it take a 3rd rape charge to get Big Ben suspended? Sorry but 2 rape charges say that this "thug" can't learn from his mistakes and needs to be taught a lesson now. Eh? Or is he different, for some unknown reason. Oh and I was listening to ESPN the other day and the guy on there, Eric Kuselias, who is an attorney, said that you don't talk to the cops and help them build a case against you (the idea being to let the cops and DA take, say, a month and find nothing incriminating). Hmmmm, now where have we heard THAT before? Well, yes--there is a difference between him and Marshall. First of all, since you're listening to lawyers, you know that there are no "rape" charges pending against BR. An obviously false accusation was made against him last year by a crazy person. And there is still no charge against him in the current accusation. He has, therefore never accepted a plea bargain to a lesser charge (why would an innocent person plead guilty to a crime?). In fact, BR has been cooperative with the cops on this one. He apparently feels he has nothing to hide. The ESPN lawyer is right--legal council to a guilty client should not let his client hand the DA the case proving his guilt. We agree on this. That's why Lynch never spoke. Your suggestion that he be suspended right now speaks for itself. You made a bad call on Lynch's suspension (it proved to have no negative impact on the team and seems so far to have kept him out of further trouble) and now your stuck saying ridiculous things like the above.
papazoid Posted March 25, 2010 Author Posted March 25, 2010 NFL Combine Drug test results....... last year...."leaks" started around April 3rd.......official list given to teams on April 22nd and the Draft was April 25 & 26th. What are the effects of marijuana on performance? Impairs skills requiring eye-hand coordination and a fast reaction time. Reduces motor coordination, tracking ability and perceptual accuracy. Impairs concentration, and time appears to move more slowly. Skill impairment may last up to 24 to 36 hours after usage. Reduces maximal exercise capacity resulting in increased fatiguability. Marijuana has no performance-enhancing potential. Because marijuana is stored in the body fat, its effects may be long-lasting. It has been shown that performance skills can be impaired for as long as 24 hours after marijuana usage, which casts doubt on the commonly held belief that the social use of marijuana the evening prior to an athletic event will not affect performance. What are the short-term adverse health effects of marijuana? Memory and learning problems Difficulty concentrating Perception distortions involving vision, sound, touch and time Thinking and problem-solving difficulties Increased heart rate and drop in blood pressure Sudden feelings of anxiety, including panic attacks, and paranoia
GaryPinC Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man!
DFL Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man! hahahha. excuse me if i dont consider a .gov a go-to source for legitimate marijuana conversation. btw, youre awful clever with your regurgitated marijuana stereotype.
Doc Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 So predictable! Yeah, I think the Cali legislature is just about to pass that historic "Legal Driving While Under the Influence of Weed Law". Soon we will see happy Golden Staters toking down the highways as the ChiPs officers smile and wave at them. If only Marshawn had waited a while before parking that car with no license plates (that will no doubt be deemed not suspicious, and in fact legal also, eh?).As usual, you'll say anything to defend a loser argument. "Driving while under the influence of weed?" LOL! Desperation much, doc? The cops stated that the "sight and smell of pot" is what led them to search his car, not the felonious missing plates. And even after finding the gun, there wasn't even a hint of charging him with DWUIW. Hell they didn't even charge him for possessing pot, which makes the allegation (and that's purely what it was) only pertinent to gullible people like you ("he plum just woudn't admit it was his, Roscoe!"). So you see, if pot is legal, there's no need to search his car. But they used a BS excuse, found a gun, and he got punished by the law. That's where it should have ended. Well, yes--there is a difference between him and Marshall. First of all, since you're listening to lawyers, you know that there are no "rape" charges pending against BR. An obviously false accusation was made against him last year by a crazy person. And there is still no charge against him in the current accusation. He has, therefore never accepted a plea bargain to a lesser charge (why would an innocent person plead guilty to a crime?). In fact, BR has been cooperative with the cops on this one. He apparently feels he has nothing to hide. The ESPN lawyer is right--legal council to a guilty client should not let his client hand the DA the case proving his guilt. We agree on this. That's why Lynch never spoke. Your suggestion that he be suspended right now speaks for itself. You made a bad call on Lynch's suspension (it proved to have no negative impact on the team and seems so far to have kept him out of further trouble) and now your stuck saying ridiculous things like the above. One time is possibly an accident, twice is a trend, doc. Although I'm sure that Big Ben (who I like, believe it or not) is just being unfairly targeted, compared to every other QB, not to mention player, in the NFL, most of whom haven't even been charged ONCE with sexual misconduct. And as the "sit down" with Lynch proved, Sir Roger doesn't need a real charge to have that talk and explain that a player is responsible for his actions and/or putting himself in bad situations. Hell if Big Ben were a Bill, you'd have been screaming for his head.
McBeane Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man! Come on man, seriously? I know someone said it before, but you are taking a .gov for the tell-all about weed? Do you have any idea why it was first made illegal? Do some research other than what our lovely government will tell you, and you will see the truth about weed. Go look up a man named Harry Anslinger and tell me that's what weed really does to you. I'm sure you are just loving this healthcare bill, and are glad we are finally getting this much needed "Change"
LABills08 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I don't care, other than the fact that it's illegal (and shouldn't be.) 40% of the USA lights up a gorilla finger once in a while. To me it's no different that having a few beers. PTR Agreed. This is crazy.
Thoner7 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I still remember this one day at St John Fisher, during the Bills training camp, I was walkin down the sidewalk when a black Hummer, lifted with like 28" chrome rims, blacked out windows, and a thumpin stereo cruises by. I think "thats gotta be Bills players!!!" So I take notice, and as they drive past I notice some smoke bellowing out of a cracked window on the passenger side.... Sniff sniff, yep reefer.
bkc Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 33 percent seems like a low number for college students
Fingon Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man! I don't see anything in that link that makes Marijuana seem like it should be illegal. They even mention that it doesn't cause cancer, despite having more tar than Tobacco. They also mention that any correlation between Marijuana and mental health problems are completely unproven. Cannabis has never killed anyone. Alcohol kills tens of thousands of people a year, and cigarettes far more than that.
Peevo Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 I don't see anything in that link that makes Marijuana seem like it should be illegal. They even mention that it doesn't cause cancer, despite having more tar than Tobacco. They also mention that any correlation between Marijuana and mental health problems are completely unproven. Cannabis has never killed anyone. Alcohol kills tens of thousands of people a year, and cigarettes far more than that. It's also important to understand that the link between mental health problems and heavy marijuana use is overstated. NORML.org claims that one must be medically predisposed to mental health issues, like bipolar disorder, before even using the drug, to have THC have any effect on it. Regulatory behavior legislation never works, it will never work, and continues to be proven ineffective time and again. It's against the law to gamble on sports, people do it everyday. Speeding, smoking in public places (the UB smoking ban is a complete joke) drinking and driving, prostitution. Pick your vice. All of these are against the law. People do them regardless. I love it how its the neoconservatives that get off on their moral higher ground. If anything, a true conservative would be vehemently opposed to any legislation that governs personal human autonomy. Smoking is bad for you, but no governing agency should tell you can't do bad things to your body.
Booster4324 Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html Always laugh at the pot heads who think it's harmless, that everybody does it, and therefore it should be legal. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Go smoke another one, touch your saggy b*tch t*ts and keep trying to convince the rest of the world you got it all figured out. It's a conspiracy, man! Someone needs to get stoned and relax. Getting laid will work too, but probably the first course will be easier for you.
GaryPinC Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 hahahha. excuse me if i dont consider a .gov a go-to source for legitimate marijuana conversation.btw, youre awful clever with your regurgitated marijuana stereotype. Yea, well looks like you fit at least one of the stereotypes perfectly. Long live the conspiracy.
GaryPinC Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Come on man, seriously? I know someone said it before, but you are taking a .gov for the tell-all about weed? Do you have any idea why it was first made illegal? Do some research other than what our lovely government will tell you, and you will see the truth about weed. Go look up a man named Harry Anslinger and tell me that's what weed really does to you. I'm sure you are just loving this healthcare bill, and are glad we are finally getting this much needed "Change" Marijuana is illegal because it is addictive and a psychoactive (mind altering) drug. That gives it a high abuse potential and lands it on the DEA's list of scheduled drugs. Since it has no accepted medical use that lands it in the schedule I category. Look, I don't mind or care if you or anyone else enjoys smoking pot regularly. That's your business, and that's fine with me. But when people want to characterize marijuana as "harmless" and that it should be legalized because so many people have tried it, well that's just plain ignorant. I have never done it, would never do it and I know many people who are the same way. I also know many people who have tried it (like my wife for one) and would never do it again. And having known a couple of intelligent people in high school who got addicted to it and threw their life in the crapper because of it, I will certainly step forward to voice my opinion when all the pot smokers try and pretend it's harmless. You can do what you want, but this is a forum on opinions and now you know mine. I fully realize marijuana has a great tox profile but that does not make it "harmless" and meriting legalization. BTW, I am not a socialist and am not a proponnent of socialized medicine.
LeviF Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Marijuana is illegal because it is addictive and a psychoactive (mind altering) drug. That gives it a high abuse potential and lands it on the DEA's list of scheduled drugs. Since it has no accepted medical use that lands it in the schedule I category. Look, I don't mind or care if you or anyone else enjoys smoking pot regularly. That's your business, and that's fine with me. But when people want to characterize marijuana as "harmless" and that it should be legalized because so many people have tried it, well that's just plain ignorant. I have never done it, would never do it and I know many people who are the same way. I also know many people who have tried it (like my wife for one) and would never do it again. And having known a couple of intelligent people in high school who got addicted to it and threw their life in the crapper because of it, I will certainly step forward to voice my opinion when all the pot smokers try and pretend it's harmless. You can do what you want, but this is a forum on opinions and now you know mine. I fully realize marijuana has a great tox profile but that does not make it "harmless" and meriting legalization. BTW, I am not a socialist and am not a proponnent of socialized medicine. Care to tell us why Salvia is legal to distribute, grow, and smoke, then?
GaryPinC Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 Someone needs to get stoned and relax. Getting laid will work too, but probably the first course will be easier for you. Well, I never been stoned and will never willingly get stoned. Been known to get drunk, especially in my 20's but generally I prefer dealing with reality. Getting laid is certainly more challenging because I have two young children and the wife and I both work, but I'll go get right on that. Thanks for your suggestions. Please feel free to escape into your pot-induced stupor since you must be incapable of facing the real world without it.
GaryPinC Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 It's also important to understand that the link between mental health problems and heavy marijuana use is overstated. NORML.org claims that one must be medically predisposed to mental health issues, like bipolar disorder, before even using the drug, to have THC have any effect on it. Regulatory behavior legislation never works, it will never work, and continues to be proven ineffective time and again. It's against the law to gamble on sports, people do it everyday. Speeding, smoking in public places (the UB smoking ban is a complete joke) drinking and driving, prostitution. Pick your vice. All of these are against the law. People do them regardless. I love it how its the neoconservatives that get off on their moral higher ground. If anything, a true conservative would be vehemently opposed to any legislation that governs personal human autonomy. Smoking is bad for you, but no governing agency should tell you can't do bad things to your body. Most laws are regulatory behavior legislation. Murder is illegal, yet people do it everyday. Does this mean the law doesn't work and that it's ineffective? Laws aren't solely meant to prevent behaviors.
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