bkc Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Browns president Mike Holmgren admitted that he isn't high on Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen. "You know how you have a type of player that you like? It's not scientific. People like him a lot. He'll go high," Holmgren said. "But it would be hard for me [to take him]." Holmgren reiterated that he will take a quarterback in the draft, but it probably won't be until late. Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer smoke screen or is he telling the truth
BuffaloBlood Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 more importantly it means that Clausen is more going to be available for the Bills. The question is does Buddy think hes a franchise QB. If the answer tot hat question is yes they MUST select him, if the answer is no than I wonder how far he slips. Holmgren passing would tell me something though.
Nanker Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Cleveland has more pressing needs if they want to turn it around this year. No doubt MH is eyeing QBs he thinks are worthwhile to take and groom. I can see him passing on Clausen. He might take Tebow in round 2 though.
John Cocktosten Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Clausen will be gone before the Bills pick
psubills Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Browns president Mike Holmgren admitted that he isn't high on Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen. "You know how you have a type of player that you like? It's not scientific. People like him a lot. He'll go high," Holmgren said. "But it would be hard for me [to take him]." Holmgren reiterated that he will take a quarterback in the draft, but it probably won't be until late. Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer smoke screen or is he telling the truth Total smokescreen. No way a President\GM is saying that type of thing this close to the draft.
lets_go_bills Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Normally I would say, smoke screen. But the tone and diction of his quote actually sounds serious and is quite convincing. Past behaviour is a strong indicator of future behaviour. Holgren does not draft QBs in the 1st round. That said, Clausen would have to get past Washington and Seattle too. Not to mention teams may trade up for him.
seadog Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Bradford, McCoy, and Clausen are all hype and I don't see any of them being great qb's in this league. They may turn out to be good, but not great. Not worthy of a top ten pick. The other qb's in this draft that will drafted later will be better value and one or two of them will develop into a good qb. Their are no can't miss for sure qb's in this draft. I would rather not spend our first or second round pick on a qb. I would much rather take a shot at Lefevour, Pike, Skelton or even Tebow, but in the third ar later. One of these later qb's will turn into the next Tom Brady sixth round wonder.
bkc Posted March 21, 2010 Author Posted March 21, 2010 Normally I would say, smoke screen. But the tone and diction of his quote actually sounds serious and is quite convincing. Past behaviour is a strong indicator of future behaviour. Holgren does not draft QBs in the 1st round. That said, Clausen would have to get past Washington and Seattle too. Not to mention teams may trade up for him. I think seattle stays with what they have. That said I wish I knew if this guy is the jackass people are saying he or just a little immature
lets_go_bills Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 I think seattle stays with what they have. That said I wish I knew if this guy is the jackass people are saying he or just a little immature I don't wanna justify cockiness and poor attitudes but I must admit that I'd be cocky as hell if I was the number one high school QB, recruited by Brady-mentor Weiss, starting for legendary Notre Dame, and a high round one NFL prospect about to make millions.
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Clausen will be gone before the Bills pick I really hope you're right.
JohnC Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 That said, Clausen would have to get past Washington and Seattle too. Not to mention teams may trade up for him. Seattle made a deal with San Diego to acquire Whitehurst. They then signed him to a fairly high contract. So Seattle is unlikely to draft Clausen with their first round picks. Many people believe that the Skins will either take OT Okung or qb Clausen with the fourth selection in the draft.
BuffaloBlood Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Normally I would say, smoke screen. But the tone and diction of his quote actually sounds serious and is quite convincing. Past behaviour is a strong indicator of future behaviour. Holgren does not draft QBs in the 1st round. That said, Clausen would have to get past Washington and Seattle too. Not to mention teams may trade up for him. Seattle just traded away picks for the guy they think is their QB of the future in Whitehurst. No way they now use a top 10 pick on another QB. Cross them off. Washington maybe but I still dont see it.
Conch Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 smoke screen or is he telling the truth The last fortune teller you saw did not say; "You are very perceptive and like to go out on a limb."
lets_go_bills Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Seattle made a deal with San Diego to acquire Whitehurst. They then signed him to a fairly high contract. So Seattle is unlikely to draft Clausen with their first round picks. Many people believe that the Skins will either take OT Okung or qb Clausen with the fourth selection in the draft. Seattle just traded away picks for the guy they think is their QB of the future in Whitehurst. No way they now use a top 10 pick on another QB. Cross them off. Washington maybe but I still dont see it. I still think Clausen is a possibility for Seattle. Whitehurst is a 27 year old who has never thrown a regular season NFL pass.
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Don't forget Seattle has two first round draft picks. They may be passing on Clauson with the 6th pick and hope he falls to them at #14.
peanuts Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Bradford, McCoy, and Clausen are all hype and I don't see any of them being great qb's in this league. They may turn out to be good, but not great. Not worthy of a top ten pick. The other qb's in this draft that will drafted later will be better value and one or two of them will develop into a good qb. Their are no can't miss for sure qb's in this draft. I would rather not spend our first or second round pick on a qb. I would much rather take a shot at Lefevour, Pike, Skelton or even Tebow, but in the third ar later. One of these later qb's will turn into the next Tom Brady sixth round wonder. The QB that is most accurate and a project is Troy's Levi Brown..
agardin Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Why would Homgren say anything? If he is telling the truth, no GM speaks honestly this time of year but....if Clausen gets by Washington I would say that he would likely be there at 9 barring some other team trading up ahead of the Bills. If Buffalo doesn't take him then it could be Jacksonville or San Fran after that ( again if no one moves back up to round 1) it could mean second round. Other than the teams mentioned as possibilities there isn't anyone with a desparate need in the bottom half of the draft, teams that may be interested Cinci (Palmer injuries mounting and didn't look like himself last year) , Pitt ( Big Ben could be in trouble, who knows), Vikings ( one more year of Favre and move on from Jackson and Sage) even San Fran may want to go with Smith and add pieces to make him better. Same with Garrard in JAX, he came on at the end of the year as well I believe. This could make draft day very interesting. Stay at 9 and then see what happens, teams may want to move up for other players and it maybe possible for us to get Clausen further down. If Buffalo does move down and can still land Clausen, assuming of course Buddy wants him, that would be a coup. If we move down and he is gone we might be in a position to draft an interior lineman at a more reasonable price point.
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