ExiledInIllinois Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 The constitution says that they have to count the population every 10 years. Nothing else. That is all the info they need.They don't need sex, name, etc. No. The USC says that they can do it how the law directs. What is written into the law? Pretty clear to me. If the law says they need that information, then they can ask for it. Sure enumeration means to count... But how they enumerate is dictated by the law.
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 enumeration in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.
Lori Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 That article says this:Shortest Form in Years The 2010 Census is just one page, with ten questions, which makes it one of the shortest census forms in history. Is that true? I glanced at mine and looks like it was 4 or more pages with tons of questions? If you have 15 people in your household, sure. Duplicate questions for each person. And compared to previous versions -- the late 1800s/early 1900s ones are treasure troves of info for genealogists -- this one is practically useless for anything other than a headcount.
Just Jack Posted March 22, 2010 Author Posted March 22, 2010 Is that true? I glanced at mine and looks like it was 4 or more pages with tons of questions? One page for the first person living there, the rest are for the additional people living there. So yes, 10 questions x number of people.
Dr. Fong Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 What happened then? What's a 100 bucks... Did they still get the info out of her. Can you just give them a c-note and be done with it? Anyway... Why can't they be happy with just the number of people in the house... Why all the other information? Yet... It is not unconstitutional what they ask. Article 1, section 2 states: Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. So... Whatever the law states, I guess they can ask. I don't know what happened then. My supervisor took it over and told me she was going to be fined. You're right though in saying that the only information they told us was essential was the number of people living in the house. Even if that's all the information we could get that was enough.
BB27 Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Whether or not they can fine you for failing to answer, is another issue altogether, but I do wonder the constitutionality of some (I SAID SOME) of the questions on the Census form. I know they need to know how many people are living in my house, and how old they are, but why do they need to know if I have a mortgage? What race the people are? I'm going to answer the Census, but I don't think they need anything beyond how many and what age.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Should have done it the way Christopher Walken did it on SNL. "Gee, I'm not really good with numbers... I'll say 80"
KD in CA Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Looks like they'll only fine me up to $100 then. If they can find me. Don't worry, you'll only have to make the minimum payment for 3 years.
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Don't worry, you'll only have to make the minimum payment for 3 years. HAHAHA BA-ZING!
HopsGuy Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Should have done it the way Christopher Walken did it on SNL. "Gee, I'm not really good with numbers... I'll say 80" You got a bobcat in there? Can't believe that skit was in the same episode as "Cowbell".
SDS Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 as it happens, I'm taking a systems architecture course from the current census systems architect...
BB27 Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 I got my reminder postcard from the Census yesterday. I guess they really want that information. Maybe I will, and maybe I won't fill it out.
Fan in Chicago Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 I got my reminder postcard from the Census yesterday. I guess they really want that information. Maybe I will, and maybe I won't fill it out. Interesting that you mention it because these reminders and notices raise the question of total cost of these mailings. To date, I received: a notice that the census form was coming, the form itself and a postcard reminder. In addition, my local government sent two notices asking me to make sure I fill out the census form. So five mailings in all.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 Did you put "return to sender" on the postcard?
Fezmid Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 Interesting that you mention it because these reminders and notices raise the question of total cost of these mailings. To date, I received: a notice that the census form was coming, the form itself and a postcard reminder. In addition, my local government sent two notices asking me to make sure I fill out the census form. So five mailings in all. So much for "going green," eh? Why not let us fill it out online...
Andrew in CA Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 Interesting that you mention it because these reminders and notices raise the question of total cost of these mailings. To date, I received: a notice that the census form was coming, the form itself and a postcard reminder. In addition, my local government sent two notices asking me to make sure I fill out the census form. So five mailings in all. You're right, maybe if people stopped evading the census takers and simply mailed back the census in a timely fashion, they wouldn't have to send out all these reminders and waste all that money.
PastaJoe Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 The accuracy of the 2010 Census will determine the geographic distribution of a substantial proportion of federal assistance, particularly in the form of grants, over the coming decade. In FY2008, 215 federal domestic assistance programs used census-related data to guide the distribution of $446.7 billion, 31 percent of all federal assistance. Census-guided grants accounted for $419.8 billion, 75 percent of all federal grant funding. To illustrate the fiscal impact of decennial census accuracy, each additional person included in the Census 2000 resulted in an annual additional Medicaid reimbursement to most states of between several hundred and several thousand dollars, depending on the state. http://www.brookings.edu/reports/2010/0309...us_dollars.aspx In addition, the data is used to determine the number of delegates from each state in the House of Representatives.
spartacus Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 Whether or not they can fine you for failing to answer, is another issue altogether, but I do wonder the constitutionality of some (I SAID SOME) of the questions on the Census form. I know they need to know how many people are living in my house, and how old they are, but why do they need to know if I have a mortgage? What race the people are? I'm going to answer the Census, but I don't think they need anything beyond how many and what age. they use the Census for all sorts of neat things for example, the nationality question was really helpful in 1942 when they used that info to round up thousands of Japanese and inter them in concentration camps
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