mrags Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 While I belive this team has too many needs to pick up a RB, we also do need a RB. Jackson is old, and Lynch is a waste of space. He could be traded, he could be suspended at any given minute, and dont forget this is the last year of his contract (I think). I would much rather have a good QB, LT, LB, DT but if we cant trade down, and no one there is worth the 9th overall pick, I wouldnt be against Spiller. He could very well be the next great back in the NFL. Would anyone be opposed if we had a back that was like AP or LT for the next 5-10 years?
JohnC Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 While I belive this team has too many needs to pick up a RB, we also do need a RB. Jackson is old, and Lynch is a waste of space. He could be traded, he could be suspended at any given minute, and dont forget this is the last year of his contract (I think). I would much rather have a good QB, LT, LB, DT but if we cant trade down, and no one there is worth the 9th overall pick, I wouldnt be against Spiller. He could very well be the next great back in the NFL. Would anyone be opposed if we had a back that was like AP or LT for the next 5-10 years? AP and LT ran behind legitimate lines. If they ran behind the garbage we had last year they would most often be inactive due to multiple injuries.
RyanC882 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 well hold on there cowboy, if we took spiller and got a 3rd or better for lynch it wouldnt be so bad now would it? I agree. It wouldn't be that bad, particularly if (1)top OT's and QB's are gone, and (2) it looks like we can get Thomas or Cody in the second.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 You have no way of knowing if he is a Barry Sanders or a Reggie Bush (3rd down back) and Chris Johnson is good but the titans were still only 8-8 last year with a better D, and better QB situation. If you feel you are a RB away from a super bowl contender, go for it. A mediocre line will get a guy like this killed. By the time the rest of the team is built up he is 3 years older and his surgically patched body runs a 4-5 40. The only way I am happy with the bills picking him up is if they structure with him right after the pick for a linemen, and my read so far of Nix tells me there is no way Spiller is a consideration at 9.
CountDorkula Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 If a so called weapon can't even make it to the scrimmage line before being brutally assaulted then for all intents and purposes it is a blank weapon. People like Spiller make plays, give him screens, draws, use him in open space. Our previous coaches did not no how to use their players. Spiller is not my first choice, but i would not be upset if they take him at 9.
bobcat Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 Spiller is a play maker and looks like he can score every time he touches the ball. I wouldn't be upset if we drafted him. Take an OT at #41 and trade Lynch for a 3rd or 4th round pick. You don't get a chance to draft a player like Spiller often and there is no QB that I would take over him besides maybe Bradford. Is there going to be a sure fire starting LT or NT #9?? I think the browns grap him before we have a chance..
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I can't believe anyone would be opposed to adding a tremendous offensive playmaker like Spiller on a team so lacking in playmakers. He would be an excellent pick. Agree, McGee. Plus the one-two punch of Jacko and Spills? Both good receivers and runners. You mean to tell me that between the TE and T teams have to worry about Nelso, Jackson and Spiller? Are you kidding me? Fogetaboutit!!
PDaDdy Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 Yes it would. We need big bodies and a QB. I dont care how good a RB looks I dont think you take one in the first round let alone the top 10. You can find RBs you cant find QBs and LTs. You need to take a guy who can be a cornerstone of your team when you have a top 10 pick. I hate the idea of a skill player right now until you have built your front 5 on the O and your front 7 on the D. Forget WRs and RBs....please please please draft a tackle! I agree but I'll call it the Adrian Peterson exception. One of the last things Minnesota needed was a RB a few years ago but Peterson ended up being their pick. His last season he seemed mortal and had a problem with fumbles but rare talents are...well...rare. If this guy is running sub 4.3 40's and is a home run threat play maker everytime he touches the ball it is tough to pass that up. I think LT and QB are much bigger needs as far as making the team better quickly. If we are on a 2 - 3 year plan then getting rare talent is more important perhaps than filling holes. Some would call it the best player available philosophy. People will kill me for this but I think Lynch would be a better compliment to Spiller. Might not Spiller just end up being a better Fred Jackson? Where would be the change of pace Beast mode?
mob16151 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 Hahahahahaha I mock you. I mock you mercilessly. Consider yourself mocked. Seriously, you spew this idiocy of taking Skelton or Snead in the 3rd, and have the nerve to call others "knowledgeless"? WOW! So with picks like Spiller at #9 and Skelton or Snead with our 3rd round pick, I can imagine who you have in mind for our 2nd rounder. Or did you trade that away? I did a disservice to Donahoe by including you in his crowd. Go play Madden. Really guy, really?! Ahhhh how sweet. I got me a twobillsdrive stalker. Yea I can se Our first 3 rounds going Spiller,Saffold,Snead/Skelton. So go watch some college football and then get back to me.
T master Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 If Spiller is the next ______________________, would you then be interested???? Emmitt? Thurman? OJ? Barry? What would it take?? Like a good QB, OH H*ll to the Yah !! If he was the next Thurmanator but i don't think it's going to happen !!
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 Ahhhh how sweet. I got me a twobillsdrive stalker. Yea I can se Our first 3 rounds going Spiller,Saffold,Snead/Skelton. So go watch some college football and then get back to me. Saying it once could have been in error, confirming it validates your idiocy Go back to Madden and let the adults discuss intelligently. Snead or Skelton going in the 3rd round Priceless, and the best part is you don't realize how stupid you sound!
reddogblitz Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 OT and QB are obviously bigger needs. But I wouldn't be upset about this pick either. If we had a real offensive minded coach who could exploit a talent like this, we could do some things. Our run game ineffectiveness last year was more due to neglect than lack of quality. We could run block and not pass block, yet we passed about 70% of the plays or something like that (didn't look it up). With all of our run game problems last year, we were # 16 in the NFL running the football. So, we add a major playmaker and let Coach Gailey design some stuff around that, I could be happy with that. But, we still need OLine and QB help, bad. As far as ML being better with Spiller. Maybe. But my reason for getting rid of ML if we did would be because he's one dumb move away from a suspension. I think the man can still play and be effective if he can stay off suspension. What's wrong with 3 good RBs. We'll carry 3, why not have all be good?
Gotta Dream Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 There's a huge difference between spending a first-round pick on Willis McGahee, who was still recovering from a career-threatening injury, and C.J. Spiller, who is perfectly healthy and ready to make an immediate impact. That's a great point! He's also not an unproven talent like Aaron Maybin. Both horrible picks by the Bills. By the way, his 40 time was 4.27 at the combine. He's been clocked at 4.24 elsewhere. Also his 20 yard burst was 2.41 which tied the record that was set by Chris Johnson last year. His hands can change a game too. Like a Reggie Bush with actual NFL size.
SawchukBills Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 If the Bills did this I would hang myself from the highest tree. That would not be the worst pick possible...not by a long shot. Of course this is assuming they move Freddy or Lynch...
reddogblitz Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 That would not be the worst pick possible...not by a long shot. Of course this is assuming they move Freddy or Lynch... Now if the Bills drafted him and got rid of Fred and kept Lynch, then I might hang myself ... Well, probably not but I'd hate it.
oak tree 12 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I can't believe anyone would be opposed to adding a tremendous offensive playmaker like Spiller on a team so lacking in playmakers. He would be an excellent pick. in a year where the draft is the strongest in years with great linemen on both sides of the ball if anyone thinks we are taking a skill position in the first 3 rounds is out of their minds. we need big men and this is the year to get them. this draft is taylor made for the bills needs and anyone who thinks we dont take linemen on bothe sides of the ball early hasent got a clue!
yungmack Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 The NFL Networks Analysts are paid versions of half the posters on this board, lots of talk, not lots of knowledge The two other knuckleheads, Dukes and Woodson, both pushed for the Bills to take a QB, proving why they're commentators on a fringe network and not running a team. Like there's a guaranteed franchise QB available. Or if you really think Bradford or Clausen is one, like they might be their for the pickin' at #9. Or if they did grab one of those two guys, like they'd survive behind the current Bills line. You know, like, like, well, like say somethin' that shows you actually know the Bills situation. But what else would you expect from the "All Tebow All The Time Network."
thewildrabbit Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 Considering Chan Gailey has a history of building really good running games I wouldn't be upset at CJ Spiller, as long as they address the LT position at some point. I would even be upset at Spiller with #1 and Tebow #2.
RJsackedagain Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 If the Bills did this I would hang myself from the highest tree. Hang 'em high ......
BuffaloBlood Posted March 19, 2010 Author Posted March 19, 2010 I agree but I'll call it the Adrian Peterson exception. One of the last things Minnesota needed was a RB a few years ago but Peterson ended up being their pick. His last season he seemed mortal and had a problem with fumbles but rare talents are...well...rare. If this guy is running sub 4.3 40's and is a home run threat play maker everytime he touches the ball it is tough to pass that up. I think LT and QB are much bigger needs as far as making the team better quickly. If we are on a 2 - 3 year plan then getting rare talent is more important perhaps than filling holes. Some would call it the best player available philosophy. People will kill me for this but I think Lynch would be a better compliment to Spiller. Might not Spiller just end up being a better Fred Jackson? Where would be the change of pace Beast mode? Here is the difference. The Vikings had there LT of the future in McKinney and they jsut signed an All Pro Guard in Hutch. True they needed a QB but There OLine and Dlines were solid when they went ahead and drafted a RB because he was the best player available. The real question here is draft philosophy. I believe that the best way to build a team is to build from the lines out. Strong line play on both sides of the ball can make your skill positions look better, it does not work the other way around. And to all of the draft the best player available people.... this is teh NFl draft there are no such things as cant miss players. You need to go intot he draft year in and year out with a philosophy. And when building a team you need a long term plan. Look what the falcons did a few years back, they drafted a QB and a LT in there first year of rebuilding. The following year they drafted a DT in the first round. This is a team on the rise... why? Not because they have been drafting WRs and RBs in the first round. Why is it that the bills have sucked the past decade? One, our QB play has been terrible. Two, our coaching has been terrible. Three, our OLine has been inconsistent and below average at best & four, our manegment has made bad personel decesions. I am not trying to knock Spiller. The kid may be a great talent I jsut know that he is not what the Bills need right now to build a consistent winner. He may be what we need in three years but not now.
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