Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 The best player on the team last season was Fred Jackson why would the Bills waste another 1st round pick on a RB. How many playoff games did Marshawn Lynch & Willis MaGahee got the Bills. The Bills need a QB, LT, NT not a RB early in the draft
SuperKillerRobots Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 If the Bills did this I would hang myself from the highest tree. I hate the idea of taking a RB in round one, but that being said I like the idea of taking a game-breaking player at any point. This is the type of pick that everyone loves if the guy is the next Chris Johnson and everyone hates if he is anything other.
tonyjustbcuz Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 CJ Spiller is pretty impressive though. 4.24 speed. In contrast...Don Beebe ran a 4.21 and Reggie Bush ran a 4.33He's ridiculous. He's got good size and great hands. He would be a game breaker and help captain checkdown tremendously. That being said, the Bills cannot afford a miss at the number 9 pick. They better pick a sure fire player and he's not the Adrian Peterson of this draft. I would want to draft the following players if available with the 9th pick in the draft if available in the following order. So if my top pick is gone which he will be..lol...then I'd want the next one and so on. 1. NDAMDKONG SUH DT (No brainer) 2. Sam Bradford QB 3. Russel Okung OT 4. Jimmy Clausen QB 5. Derrick Morgan DE (Rush LB in 3-4) 6. C.J. Spiller RB 7. Demaryius Thomas WR Don't want Trent Williams OT, Dez Bryant WR, Most of the safeties in the draft, we are set with CB's for now.... Round 2 1. Bryan Bulaga OT (If slides) 2. Tony Pike QB 3. Jonathan Crompton QB 4. Mike Iupati G that may convert to OT 5. Jonathan Dwyer RB 6. Tim Tebow QB So again this is just my list of preferences for our 1st round pick and 2nd round pick in order if any of these players were available at that pick in the order I have them. If the player isn't listed on my list then for one reason or another I have either identified a red flag (several on character and some on work ethic..don't want another Mike Williams) or I just don't like the player more than the ones I have ahead of them. I automatically excluded CB's, special team players, and only considered impact WR's and RB's IMO. My overall favorite player is Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech and wonder if the G.T. connection will help his chances of landing in Buffalo seeing that most of the coaching staff originated there.
tonyjustbcuz Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 The best player on the team last season was Fred Jackson why would the Bills waste another 1st round pick on a RB. How many playoff games did Marshawn Lynch & Willis MaGahee got the Bills. The Bills need a QB, LT, NT not a RB early in the draft I agree with you full heartedly on that one...The only way I pick a RB or WR or DE is if the best QB's OLT, DT/NT, are off the board and there is a significant margin of difference of the caliber of player at a lesser needed position compared to what remains at the position of need.
Thoner7 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 CJ Spiller is pretty impressive though. 4.24 speed. In contrast...Don Beebe ran a 4.21 and Reggie Bush ran a 4.33He's ridiculous. He's got good size and great hands. He would be a game breaker and help captain checkdown tremendously. That being said, the Bills cannot afford a miss at the number 9 pick. They better pick a sure fire player and he's not the Adrian Peterson of this draft. He ran a 4.37 And even if he was Adrian Peterson, Id still pass on him. RBs are a dime a dozen. Going back to that draft wouldnt have been smarter for the Vikings to draft Willis over AD? I say yes. I can't believe anyone would be opposed to adding a tremendous offensive playmaker like Spiller on a team so lacking in playmakers. He would be an excellent pick. Spiller is a playmaker yes, thats easy to see. Buts its a lot harder to see the types of plays that Okung/Bulaga/McClain/Morgan/Cody make and how they can affect the game. Thats the difference here. Those guys I listed are all bigger playmakers than Spiller, you just arent likely to see them on ESPN. We need need REAL play makers. Besides, whats the over/under if Spiller is ever any better than Bush at the NFL level? Im taking under.
uforesircher Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 If the Bills did this I would hang myself from the highest tree. well spiller would not be a horrible pick - but not my first choice though with the 1st pick if we cant get bradford or one of the top ot's and the dt/nt we want is not available - then i would be ok with mcclain or spiller - it would not be a bad thing - not the best draft luck for us if all of that goes against us - but not a bad pick - at that point you have to go on the best player available theory
purple haze Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 CJ Spiller is pretty impressive though. 4.24 speed. In contrast...Don Beebe ran a 4.21 and Reggie Bush ran a 4.33He's ridiculous. He's got good size and great hands. He would be a game breaker and help captain checkdown tremendously. That being said, the Bills cannot afford a miss at the number 9 pick. They better pick a sure fire player and he's not the Adrian Peterson of this draft. He's the Chris Johnson. I'd take that. Game breakers do not grow on trees. There are LT's in the the second round who could come in and play. Doesn't have to be in rd. 1. There are DT's who will be there in rd. 3 who can come in and play. This is a deep draft.
purple haze Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 He ran a 4.37 And even if he was Adrian Peterson, Id still pass on him. RBs are a dime a dozen. Going back to that draft wouldnt have been smarter for the Vikings to draft Willis over AD? I say yes. Spiller is a playmaker yes, thats easy to see. Buts its a lot harder to see the types of plays that Okung/Bulaga/McClain/Morgan/Cody make and how they can affect the game. Thats the difference here. Those guys I listed are all bigger playmakers than Spiller, you just arent likely to see them on ESPN. We need need REAL play makers. Besides, whats the over/under if Spiller is ever any better than Bush at the NFL level? Im taking under. He actually compares more favorably to Chris Johnson. Okung, Bulaga and even Williams might be gone by pick 9. Cody can be gotten in rd. 2. McClain would be good. I'd rather have Spiller than Morgan at 9. Spiller can score from anywhere on the field at any time. Something the Bills offense needs. He can run between the tackles. He can catch very well. He can also return kicks. If the top OT's are gone there is no reason to settle for the 4th or 5th best tackle. Take the best game breaker available.
purple haze Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 The best player on the team last season was Fred Jackson why would the Bills waste another 1st round pick on a RB. How many playoff games did Marshawn Lynch & Willis MaGahee got the Bills. The Bills need a QB, LT, NT not a RB early in the draft I love Freddy and what you say is true. He was the best player on the offense. But he's limited. He can't score from anywhere on the field at any time. He's a very good player, but Spiller is a sudden impact type of player.
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 He actually compares more favorably to Chris Johnson. Okung, Bulaga and even Williams might be gone by pick 9. Cody can be gotten in rd. 2. McClain would be good. I'd rather have Spiller than Morgan at 9. Spiller can score from anywhere on the field at any time. Something the Bills offense needs. He can run between the tackles. He can catch very well. He can also return kicks. If the top OT's are gone there is no reason to settle for the 4th or 5th best tackle. Take the best game breaker available. That is how I feel. It depends on who is available when we pick. I really want one of those OTs, but a lot of mocks have most of them gone when we pick. If by some chance the top OTs are gone and spillar is still there, I wouldn't call it a bad pick at all. And personally, I would like spillar over clausen. And apparently the bills front office feels the same way. I think that the bills won't draft spillar unless they can trade lynch before the draft. If they can't trade lynch in time, they won't pick spillar. So if all the top OTs are gone and we still have lynch, I think we might actually trade down. Which would be nice with a draft so deep with linemen.
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I am appauled by some of the people on this board. Have you guys learned nothing from watching the Bills this past year. WEAPONS MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CANT GET THEM THE BALL. You cant run effectivly without a strong line, you cant throw without a strong line and decent QB. We have neither of those! Last I checked we had a 1,000yrd runner on the roster that we are happy with and we also have a pretty darn good backup (even if he is a scum off the field). DRAFT LINE OR QB. Spiller is a luxury pick the Bills cannot afford to make. If he is so good, teams will be offering us a King's ransom for that pick so they can get him. we've got a dozen holes on this team, none of them are at RB The best player on the team last season was Fred Jackson why would the Bills waste another 1st round pick on a RB. How many playoff games did Marshawn Lynch & Willis MaGahee got the Bills. The Bills need a QB, LT, NT not a RB early in the draft You folks can consult with Buddy anytime. Those that want Spiller can join Donahoe on how to build a football team. Where's he currently employed again?
mob16151 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 You folks can consult with Buddy anytime. Those that want Spiller can join Donahoe on how to build a football team. Where's he currently employed again? Hahahahahaha I mock you. I mock you mercilessly. Consider yourself mocked. Wow thanks HurlyBurly51 for showing me how much fun useless post's can be. You've been mocked. Why? Because you are both knowledgeless, and annoying.
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I think theres a 75 percent chance the Bill's take Skelton or Snead in the 3rd. Hahahahahaha I mock you. I mock you mercilessly. Consider yourself mocked. Seriously, you spew this idiocy of taking Skelton or Snead in the 3rd, and have the nerve to call others "knowledgeless"? WOW! So with picks like Spiller at #9 and Skelton or Snead with our 3rd round pick, I can imagine who you have in mind for our 2nd rounder. Or did you trade that away? I did a disservice to Donahoe by including you in his crowd. Go play Madden. Really guy, really?!
flomoe Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I can't believe anyone would be opposed to adding a tremendous offensive playmaker like Spiller on a team so lacking in playmakers. He would be an excellent pick. I agree. The one thing the Bills are lacking on either side of the ball is a playmaker. Spiller is a multi-talented back with game changing speed and moves. He might not be Adrian Peterson because his game isn't based on power but think more along the lines of LT.
Omar Little Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 You folks can consult with Buddy anytime. Those that want Spiller can join Donahoe on how to build a football team. Where's he currently employed again? There's a huge difference between spending a first-round pick on Willis McGahee, who was still recovering from a career-threatening injury, and C.J. Spiller, who is perfectly healthy and ready to make an immediate impact.
damj Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I would rather see a top OT or NT, but if they're not there, I'm okay with Spiller.
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 There's about 8 QB threads on the front page and you've got to bring your QB stuff into this thread?You're rapidly approaching crusading status. Again. Approaching?? Perhaps you consider his "approach" asymtotic?
JPS Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I would want to draft the following players if available with the 9th pick in the draft if available in the following order. So if my top pick is gone which he will be..lol...then I'd want the next one and so on. 1. NDAMDKONG SUH DT (No brainer) 2. Sam Bradford QB 3. Russel Okung OT 4. Jimmy Clausen QB 5. Derrick Morgan DE (Rush LB in 3-4) 6. C.J. Spiller RB 7. Demaryius Thomas WR Don't want Trent Williams OT, Dez Bryant WR, Most of the safeties in the draft, we are set with CB's for now.... Round 2 1. Bryan Bulaga OT (If slides) 2. Tony Pike QB 3. Jonathan Crompton QB 4. Mike Iupati G that may convert to OT 5. Jonathan Dwyer RB 6. Tim Tebow QB So again this is just my list of preferences for our 1st round pick and 2nd round pick in order if any of these players were available at that pick in the order I have them. If the player isn't listed on my list then for one reason or another I have either identified a red flag (several on character and some on work ethic..don't want another Mike Williams) or I just don't like the player more than the ones I have ahead of them. I automatically excluded CB's, special team players, and only considered impact WR's and RB's IMO. My overall favorite player is Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech and wonder if the G.T. connection will help his chances of landing in Buffalo seeing that most of the coaching staff originated there. Bulaga, Iupati and Crompton in the 2nd......riiiight...
Bring Back Kelly Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 I don't see why everyone is up in arms over this. Seattle is in need of a running back. They covet C.J Spiller. They just got Whitehurst in a trade, So the Young QB is set. They are gonna take Spiller. Listen, I think the Bills should take a lineman early, but the same can be said about lineman, you can get a good one in the later rounds too. If It is possible, take Sam Bradford, however you can get him. There was talk that Everyone of the top 5 teams picking early, wanted to trade out of that spot. What will it cost? Is it a gamble? Sure is, but if Bradford's shoulder looks good, than I would try for him. If a run on lineman go early, than If Spiller is there, Why not? We need game breakers. As long as it's not a defensive back. Thats a spot we can afford to stay away from.
JohnC Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 Well since they can't get a quality QB this year and apperantly are going to go with captain checkdown, doesn't it make sense to get a weapon that can take it all the way after trent throws the 2 yard passes to him? If a so called weapon can't even make it to the scrimmage line before being brutally assaulted then for all intents and purposes it is a blank weapon.
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