slothrop Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Can't say I have ever done anything but pass through North Collins or Gowanda, but Hamburg is "hillbillyish"? WTF? 135354[/snapback] I am from hamburg and yes it is "hillbillyish" in its attitudes (as is the greater Buffal area). In my opinion: I have never lived in a more racist area north of the Mason Dixon line. Buffalo is in the top five "most segregated" cities every year. I just had to fire my barber because of "hillybillyish" attitudes. If you ever start a sentence "I am not a racist but . . ." you may want to check yourself.
Rico Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 So why would you live in Buffalo? 135334[/snapback] I wouldn't...Nothing against Buffalo, but been there, done that.
mcjeff215 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 I have never been to Buffalo so the extent of my knowledge comes from the posts I read on here. Whether its people talking about the high taxes, crap politicians, or shot economy it seems like I rarely read anything positive about the city. I grew up about 20 minutes outside Detroit in a very nice city called Livonia. I would often refer to Detroit as a peace of crap, and when compared to suburban Livonia the two really have nothing in common. I'm wondering if that comparison is similar to many of the wallers on here. Do most you locals live in the suburbs and look at Buffalo like I would look at Detroit? Basically as a city so shot and different from your suburban town that its easy to say crappy thing about it. Or do most of you actually live in Buffalo and are dealing with the issues brought up on here on daily basis? As an observer of the material on this board I guess I'm just curious as to why anyone would want to live in Buffalo. It really sounds like it is a dieing city with a world of problems. Maybe a few of you could help me better understand some of these issues in your responses. 135334[/snapback] I grew up in Orchard Park (I really have to call you on that Hamburg Hillbilly comment though... Collins? Yes. Hamburg? Nope.). I'd make the trek into the city for hockey games and concerts. That's about it. The city itself is crap. I got out when I could. That said, I miss everything that made it home. The food, the people, the traditions (who the hell knows what dingus day is down here? Going once? Going twice?), the countryside, the sports teams, the seasons, the winter (yes I miss it... skiing, snowmobiling...), the lake, everything. It's strange, but a lot of things that are commonplace up in WNY are just out of the ordinary anywhere else. That is what I miss. If the gang up there in NYS government ever figures things out, I'd move back. If that economy would start an upswing, I'd try my best to be part of it. But a Bass Pro Shop isn't the answer, it's an overhaul. I still don't understand why those same morons keep getting voted back in. I was up there for the Bills/Jets game.. I bumped into someone I knew everywhere I went. Now that's home.
PromoTheRobot Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Like any place, Buffalo has it's pluses and minuses. The economy and government are huge negatives. There is so much self-interest involved, no one thinks about the greater good. That's one reason why the city keeps sliding deeper in the hole. They are actually thinking of shutting down ALL the libraries because of lack of funding! One the plus side, the cost of living is very affordable. There is a lot of recreation. Many factors of quality-of-life are very good. One curious area that is a plus and a minus is the "party" factor. You can have a good time in Buffalo that would rival New Orleans! Bars are open all night. Casinos everywhere. Strip clubs where almost anything goes. If you can't control yourself, Buffalo would be the worse place in the world to live. You'd be dead in six weeks! There are two things on the horizon that bode well for the future of Buffalo. 1) They are reclaiming much of the waterfront that was once used by the steel industry. 2) There is massive amounts of fresh water available. As much as the Sunbelt cities are growing, there is a danger they will run out of drinkable water in the next 50 years. Buffalo would suddenly have a huge advantage. And if global warming does change the climate, Buffalo may become a very desirable area to be. PTR
Greybeard Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 As much as the Sunbelt cities are growing, there is a danger they will run out of drinkable water in the next 50 years. Buffalo would suddenly have a huge advantage. And if global warming does change the climate, Buffalo may become a very desirable area to be. PTR 135521[/snapback] Somehow I can see the Sunbelt cities tapping into that water source. The Federal Gov would probably accomodate them for the "greater good."
Alaska Darin Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Hey Alaska...just curious, where is your land in wny located? 135418[/snapback] Groveland.
Terry Tate Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 As an observer of the material on this board I guess I'm just curious as to why anyone would want to live in Buffalo. 135334[/snapback] I left Buffalo over twenty years ago and struck out on my own, but I'll give it a shot by telling you one story. When I turned 16, my friend and I got jobs as prep cooks at Samuels Grande Manor, a large banquet hall/restaurant at the end of our street. One late afternoon/evening, on a day off, the area was caught off guard as a bit of weather turned into a snowstorm that dumped a knee-high pile of the white stuff. As we looked across the street at the banquet hall parking lot, we realized there were about 600-800 guests in their finest evening wear getting ready to depart, and who were just realizing there was a foot more of snow on everything outside since they went in. We grabbed our coats, a broom and a couple shovels and crossed Main street to begin uncovering and shoveling out cars that had no hope of exiting that parking lot without us. Though many tried to pay or tip us, we refused to accept any money. That's what Buffalo is to me. That story is not unique or rare. Everyone who has lived in Buffalo for any length of time has one just like it, if not on the giving end, then the receiving.
Guest leah Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 It's like trying to bail out the Irish during the potato famine."SEAMUS.......ALL IS WELL HERE IN THE RESEARCH TRIANGLE.......I HAD A WEE LIDDLE JOB AS A SOFTWARE ENGINEER, BUT NOW ME MAKES MORE MONEY SELLING SUBSCRIPTIONS OF VIBE.....I WILL SEND FOR YOU AND MOTHER WHEN I HAVE THE FUNDS......HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH THE BOTH OF YOU AS ANOTHER HORRIBLE WINTER SETS IN. REMEMBER TO SET YER THERMOSTAT TO 50 DEGREES OR NATIONAL FOOL WILL FIND A WAY TO HAVE YOU EVICTED." SINCERELY, PATRICK 135382[/snapback] ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that's hilarious! Leah
Fezmid Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Positive of WNY? Food. You can go into pretty much any (non-chain) restaurant and the food will be awesome. Otherwise, nothing much IMHO CW
Rico Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Having bars that stay open until 4 AM is pretty cool.
stevestojan Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 I moved down to WPB Florida about 2 years ago. And in less than 1 more year, Im moving back to WNY. Not the city of buffalo, but WNY. Buffalo is in pretty sad shape, but the surrounding areas are great. The people is the biggest difference. Down here, people go out to be seen. In WNY, we go out to have a great time. And then you go ot hte grocery store and have to press 2 at the ATM for english. I love WNY,... it took me leaving to figure that one out.
mcjeff215 Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 I moved down to WPB Florida about 2 years ago. And in less than 1 more year, Im moving back to WNY. Not the city of buffalo, but WNY. Buffalo is in pretty sad shape, but the surrounding areas are great. The people is the biggest difference. Down here, people go out to be seen. In WNY, we go out to have a great time. And then you go ot hte grocery store and have to press 2 at the ATM for english. I love WNY,... it took me leaving to figure that one out. 135635[/snapback] Go out to be seen, I've not put it that way before... I like that. It's the same way in Atlanta. You need to have your brand new car, your beamer, your designer clothes. God forbid a hair is out of place! I think that's a trait of larger metropolitan areas, though. I've been down here for eight years and I've just started to find people that are into the same type of stuff as I was back up north. Next weekend marks the only the second time in 8 years that I'll spend time in a tree stand. I used to call in sick every opening day ;-) The "normal" people exist, they're just more difficult to find. -Jeff
ChevyVanMiller Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 I have never been to Buffalo so the extent of my knowledge comes from the posts I read on here. Whether its people talking about the high taxes, crap politicians, or shot economy it seems like I rarely read anything positive about the city. I grew up about 20 minutes outside Detroit in a very nice city called Livonia. I would often refer to Detroit as a peace of crap, and when compared to suburban Livonia the two really have nothing in common. I'm wondering if that comparison is similar to many of the wallers on here. Do most you locals live in the suburbs and look at Buffalo like I would look at Detroit? Basically as a city so shot and different from your suburban town that its easy to say crappy thing about it. Or do most of you actually live in Buffalo and are dealing with the issues brought up on here on daily basis? As an observer of the material on this board I guess I'm just curious as to why anyone would want to live in Buffalo. It really sounds like it is a dieing city with a world of problems. Maybe a few of you could help me better understand some of these issues in your responses. 135334[/snapback] Mike, I wrote to just the issues that you speak of in a column a few years back. I was speaking of my hometown, Niagara Falls, but the facts apply to Buffalo equally as well. Here is a link to that piece:Why not sooner? There's much to love here if you'll only open your eyes to the possibilities.
Mikie2times Posted November 28, 2004 Author Posted November 28, 2004 How the heck are you a Bills fan if you've never been to Buffalo? 135414[/snapback] In 1990 I was only 8, my love for football had been growing for a couple years at that point. Being from Michigan all we got was Lions games on the NFC side and the Bills were on all the time on the AFC side. I started watching them exclusively in 1990 because they were so exciting to watch and they were always on TV. After the glory days ended the Bills were so much a part of me that I continued being a die hard. Now, like many of you, I will always be a fan no matter what the circumstances. The one thing that has always puzzled me over the years is that if they were to move I know I would no longer be a fan. Maybe in some past life I grew up in WNY, who knows what it is.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 Summer weather? That's only 17 days, what about the other 348 days? LOL 135421[/snapback] Last I checked it was 16, but THEY ARE REALLY GOOD DAYS!!!!! Seriously though, a lake breeze is nice in July and August. Natural air-conditioning. You guys don't know heat till you venture down to the mid-Atlantic and southward. I must say though, recent summers in Maryland have been pretty decent. No crazy 95 days all the time. If I had the perfect schedule, I would be in Buffalo from May 15th to January 5th. Outside of that, I am in the sunbelt.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted November 28, 2004 Posted November 28, 2004 and my family ancestry has been in Buffalo since 1830. Prolly longer than most.
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