evilcape Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB.
stuckincincy Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. IND might have their eye on UCLA's Brian Price.
reddogblitz Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I'd probably make that trade if they'd do it.
Maddog69 Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 We should hold out until they throw in Peyton Manning. He's getting kind of old and sure does make lots of money. I'll bet they are looking to rid themselves of that has-been. He could come in and hold down the QB job for a year or two while Trent develops into the next Tom Brady.
Buffalo Beeeews Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. May I suggest to you to change the subject of your post to: "Marcus Stroud should be traded."
KRT88 Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. There is NO WAY you'd get the #31 pick for Kyle Williams. You might get their 2nd, but I would seriously doubt that. Try a 5th and a conditional 3rd for next year.
Mister Defense Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. Yes, I would definitely do that--basically, the Colts are giving us their #1 draft choice for Kyle Williams. Bill Polian would do this? Only if his brain has fallen out of his head. Another "let's get rid of one our best players" thread. Bye Lynch, so long Williams, adios Whitner, see ya Peters... We don't need these guys?
Rob's House Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 Yes, I would definitely do that--basically, the Colts are giving us their #1 draft choice for Kyle Williams. Bill Polian would do this? Only if his brain has fallen out of his head. Another "let's get rid of one our best players" thread. Bye Lynch, so long Williams, adios Whitner, see ya Peters... We don't need these guys? They probably wouldn't give their 1st, but if we could get their 2nd it might be a good move. As to the getting rid of our best players bit, the orig poster rightly qualified the statement that Williams is good, but may not really have a position in this defense.
SawchukBills Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. So basically you're saying we give the Colts Williams and a 6th and we get a 1st? No way that happens...Madden 2010 wouldn't even let that through.
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 Where do people come up with this stuff? While we're at it, let's move Keith Ellison to Detroit for a second rounder.
gjv001 Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. Sometimes as the saying goes"its not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog". Jeff Wright was a small NT, but played the position extremely well. Williams will be a fine NT in a rotation. Hopefully the analyists are correct about Dan Williams, NT from Tennessee. He and Kyle could be the Bills version of the Williames.
gjv001 Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 May I suggest to you to change the subject of your post to: "Marcus Stroud should be traded." Why do you want to trade Stroud? What do think is fair value for Stroud?
Celtic_soulja Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 I love Stroud...I'll be upset if they trade him...and Williams to...I believe they both fit a 3-4 scheme at end...even though I get trashed because apparently you have to be "this height" to be a DE and Williams is too short...but I think you get Cody or Joseph...and you got a fabulous D line in rotation....1st and 2nd down you get Williams Cody Stroud....passing downs you get Edwards Stroud Kelsay....and you can change it up as fat boys get tired...
Philo Posted March 17, 2010 Posted March 17, 2010 Sometimes as the saying goes"its not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog". Jeff Wright was a small NT, but played the position extremely well. Williams will be a fine NT in a rotation. Hopefully the analyists are correct about Dan Williams, NT from Tennessee. He and Kyle could be the Bills version of the Williames. Well said. I like Kyle Williams too much to give up on him now. Sure, he doesn't fit the prototypical NT or 3-4 DE mold, but he still plays hard, giving it 100% every down, and that's the kind of guy I would want out there. I think we owe it to him to let him find a place in the defense. In fact, I would be shocked if he doesn't find a way to make it work, whatever scheme is thrown at him.
kota Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 Why are people so quick to trade away our good players?
Astrobot Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 If IND stayed put I think they get Jared Odrick or Brian Price. So, No.
uforesircher Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. i do not subscribe to your point of view kyle williams is a quality football player - better than good - and if one is smart - one finds a way to use quality football players besides wouldn't be the first time a smallish nt played for the bills and did more than hold his own
High Mark Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 I love kyle williams. He is a force in the tampa 2. Too small to play NT, and not fast enough to play DE. I think the Colts could realy use him and were willing to part with a 4th (?) for McCargo back in '08. This would be a very important piece of the defensive puzzle for the Colts and a fair trade if we swap a few latter round picks. Williams, our 3rd and a 6th for Colts 1st and third. Colts get a great player for their system, and we get an excellent draft pick to use on a NT or maybe LB. Un-true assumptions. This FO is not going to trade away our top front 7 player.
KOKBILLS Posted March 18, 2010 Posted March 18, 2010 There is NO WAY you'd get the #31 pick for Kyle Williams. You might get their 2nd, but I would seriously doubt that. Try a 5th and a conditional 3rd for next year. Nice Avatar...
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