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I've got a funny feeling, and I hope I'm wrong but...

Rd 1: One of the second tier OTs: Bulaga, Davis, Campbell (Okung and Williams will be gone)

Trade 2 + 3 to get back into late first and select......Tebow

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4. Dont under estimate the Bills interest in Spiller either at #9. The new staff wants to ramp up the offense and are known for their ground game. I honestly get the feeling the new staff isnt as big of a Lynch fan as some posters on this board. His off the field problems, lack of explosiveness because of his tendency to dance at the line and also frequent dropped passes have made him expendable and even a liability in some aspects.

 

The interest in Spiller doesn't make much sense. What good would it do to get a dynamic back when the OL is dysfunctional? If the Bills had an effective line then it would make sense, just as it made sense for the Vikings to draft AP a few years back because they already had a very powerful OL.

 

A lot of people are critical of Lynch because of his behavior and so far lack of production, especially last year. But he is a talent who needs to be coached up. He was the second rated back a couple of years ago, only behind AP. Let's not get into that repetitive destructive cycle of getting rid of a talent only to replace that same talent. The Bills desperately need to ADD talent, not merely fill in the hole AGAIN by the departure of talent.

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The interest in Spiller doesn't make much sense. What good would it do to get a dynamic back when the OL is dysfunctional? If the Bills had an effective line then it would make sense, just as it made sense for the Vikings to draft AP a few years back because they already had a very powerful OL.

 

A lot of people are critical of Lynch because of his behavior and so far lack of production, especially last year. But he is a talent who needs to be coached up. He was the second rated back a couple of years ago, only behind AP. Let's not get into that repetitive destructive cycle of getting rid of a talent only to replace that same talent. The Bills desperately need to ADD talent, not merely fill in the hole AGAIN by the departure of talent.

 

I agree with a lof of what you said, but if you look closer at the situation I think its more likely and makes more sense than you think.

 

If one of the top LT's are there, I do think we certainly grab one and 100% should. But reality sets in and we look at the top 8 and realize its very very likely that the top 3 OT will be gone. 100% for sure, 2 of them will be gone IMO, and likely 3 and possibly even 4 will be taken in top 8. I think it will be 3 personally Okung, Bulaga, and Trent. Raiders may take Campbell too as Al Davis loves his workout wonders...

 

So wheres that leave us at #9? McClain, Dan Williams, or Campbell (if he is there) versus taking Spiller. Well, considering we just signed Davis and Edwards today, that will lessen the chance of taking McClain or reaching for Williams. So, if Spiller is there, he is easily the best offensive player in this draft and offense was a big sore spot for us. Add in Chan's familiarity with Spiller, Lynch's tendency to dance at the line and drop passes (not to mention his off field stuff), and the fact this staff has no attachment to Lynch, then that makes Spiller even more plausible.

 

Not to mention, this draft is deep with players in the trenches and LB's but it lacks in big time offensive playmakers. So taking Spiller at 9, then moving Lynch for a mid round pick in a deep draft for our other areas of need makes sense to me if no tackles are there and none of the other Elite prospects have slipped.

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I agree with a lof of what you said, but if you look closer at the situation I think its more likely and makes more sense than you think.

 

If one of the top LT's are there, I do think we certainly grab one and 100% should. But reality sets in and we look at the top 8 and realize its very very likely that the top 3 OT will be gone. 100% for sure, 2 of them will be gone IMO, and likely 3 and possibly even 4 will be taken in top 8. I think it will be 3 personally Okung, Bulaga, and Trent. Raiders may take Campbell too as Al Davis loves his workout wonders...

 

So wheres that leave us at #9? McClain, Dan Williams, or Campbell (if he is there) versus taking Spiller. Well, considering we just signed Davis and Edwards today, that will lessen the chance of taking McClain or reaching for Williams. So, if Spiller is there, he is easily the best offensive player in this draft and offense was a big sore spot for us. Add in Chan's familiarity with Spiller, Lynch's tendency to dance at the line and drop passes (not to mention his off field stuff), and the fact this staff has no attachment to Lynch, then that makes Spiller even more plausible.

 

Not to mention, this draft is deep with players in the trenches and LB's but it lacks in big time offensive playmakers. So taking Spiller at 9, then moving Lynch for a mid round pick in a deep draft for our other areas of need makes sense to me if no tackles are there and none of the other Elite prospects have slipped.

 

If you want to argue that Spiller is a more dynamic back than Lynch I will give you that point. But Lynch is a tougher back who is also capable of being a big play player. If all the upper tier OTs are gone when our turn comes up then there are some high quality defensive players who would be available for us, such as NT Williams, DE Morgan etc.

 

My basic point is that it is time that the Bills stopped trading a position to replace that same position. It is not allowing us to move forward. Is Lynch immature? Without a doubt he is. But that doesn't make him a bad person or a person who can't behave in a more mature manner. Just because this is a new regime it doesn't mean that it is willing to let a relatively high first round player and talent go for a third or fourth round pick. I'm much more willing to give Lynch a fresh start, especially after the way things started for him with the suspension.

 

The way for the Bills to accelerate the development of the team is to keep talent and add to it.

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If you want to argue that Spiller is a more dynamic back than Lynch I will give you that point. But Lynch is a tougher back who is also capable of being a big play player. If all the upper tier OTs are gone when our turn comes up then there are some high quality defensive players who would be available for us, such as NT Williams, DE Morgan etc.

 

My basic point is that it is time that the Bills stopped trading a position to replace that same position. It is not allowing us to move forward. Is Lynch immature? Without a doubt he is. But that doesn't make him a bad person or a person who can't behave in a more mature manner. Just because this is a new regime it doesn't mean that it is willing to let a relatively high first round player and talent go for a third or fourth round pick. I'm much more willing to give Lynch a fresh start, especially after the way things started for him with the suspension.

 

The way for the Bills to accelerate the development of the team is to keep talent and add to it.

 

I dont really disagree with much of what you are saying...my points are that if you take into consideration the entire picture, picking Spiller at #9 is more plausible than I think you give it credit for is all.

 

Gailey builds around the ground game.

Top 3 tackles are likely off the board at 9, and maybe even top 4.

Dan Williams would be a big stretch at 9 and is less likely with Edwards signing.

McClain becomes less likely with A. Davis signing (although he could still be taken at #9 IMO).

Spiller would be by far the best offensive player available (if he is even there)

 

On top of all that:

Lynch had a down year and actually lost his job to Freddie during the season.

This regime has no attachment to Lynch making trading him easier.

FO I think is tired of his off field issues.

This offense needs a spark and a change.

Spiller looks to be more explosive with better hands and would be seen as an upgrade over Lynch.

Lynch could still fetch us value with mid round picks via trade for this deep draft.

Chan has seen the talents of Spiller first hand.

The film doesnt lie...Lynch doesnt hit his holes well enough and dances at the line. Also drops too many balls.

 

So, while I think Lynch does deserve a fresh start and still has the potential to be a really good back in this league if he can stop dancing at the line so much, I still think given the situation come draft day that I wont be surprised if we go with Spiller and then trade Lynch for mid round picks.

 

My personal preference is to take an OT, but I just dont believe one will be there that will be a better pickup than Spiller. Taking Spiller and trading Lynch makes more sense to me than stretching for Dan Williams.

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