Since 1972 Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 2010 Trade down from top ten 2011 No Football 2012 Trade down from top five 2013 Trade down from top ten 2014 Trade down from top fifteen 2015 Bills over 500. First time in a long time. How OLD is RW now? It won't matter, Bills five year plan is on track! None of this quick turn around crap for the Bills. They do it the OLD fashion way!! In 2015 BN/CC lead us to the promise land. They will still be @ OBD, right?? Man, I am stoked.
JimBob2232 Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 2010 Trade down from top ten 2011 No Football 2012 Trade down from top five 2013 Trade down from top ten 2014 Trade down from top fifteen 2015 Bills over 500. First time in a long time. How OLD is RW now? It won't matter, Bills five year plan is on track! None of this quick turn around crap for the Bills. They do it the OLD fashion way!! In 2015 BN/CC lead us to the promise land. They will still be @ OBD, right?? Man, I am stoked. Heh. Per your formula, Trade Down = Win. Given this is a reality, why would anyone trade up?
dailar Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Who do we trade down to though? Everyone wants the most picks as they all know the depth of this draft. Not criticising the plan as I agree with trading down this year. Just wonder who wants our #9 pick enough to give us a first and an additional second.
earthtobrint Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 I'm not so sure trading down is the best solution for this team. The team has urgent needs at LT, RT, and NT because there is no one currently on the roster that can play those positions at a competent NFL level. Two out of our first three picks should be at those positions. In upcoming drafts, however, I'd advocate a best player available drafting philosophy rather than trading down. This team needs talent. The Bills best player of the past decade is soon to retire. There are no stars on this team. Even the Rams have an elite player at one position. The Bills have drafted decently after the first round, but what has that gotten us? Plenty of decent players. Almost every first round selection in the past ten years has been a flop. They simply need to start hitting on their first rounders, where the top flight talent should be. That's why, after this years draft, I'd prefer they draft the best player available regardless of position (within reason).
nucci Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 2010 Trade down from top ten 2011 No Football 2012 Trade down from top five 2013 Trade down from top ten 2014 Trade down from top fifteen 2015 Bills over 500. First time in a long time. How OLD is RW now? It won't matter, Bills five year plan is on track! None of this quick turn around crap for the Bills. They do it the OLD fashion way!! In 2015 BN/CC lead us to the promise land. They will still be @ OBD, right?? Man, I am stoked. Stoked or stoned?
/dev/null Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Phase I: Trade Down Phase II: Phase III: Profit!
markj Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Phase I: Trade DownPhase II: Phase III: Profit! How about we keep trading down until we own the whole seventh round.
icymonsters Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 How about we keep trading down until we own the whole seventh round. Hell yes we can get 19 7th round picks!!....oh and I know this fat kid from new haven ct. with big man boobs
BillsVet Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Trading down is wonderful, if you're confident you can get your player(s) later on. Cleveland traded down two or three times in last years draft, turning down plenty of players. The point remains that talent is generally found in the first through third rounds. The team needs their picks in those rounds to be instant starters not just because they're rebuilding, but for the long haul of 4 or 5 years+. Buffalo does not find solid long term starters as often as they should.
KRT88 Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 though I on't agree with the idea here, i do like the trade down idea. collect 2nd and 3rd round picks if at all possible. This is the fastest way to collect talent in a deep draft. We have needs all over the place, imagine if you could move: from 9 to 14 and get a 3rd from 14 to 23 and get a 2nd and 5th from 23 to 28 and get a 3rd from 28 to 36 and get a 3rd now you've taken 1 pick and turned it into 5 sure it would be difficult but other teams can do it...Nix should keep his options open.
birdog1960 Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Stoked or stoned?i think this might have been meant as a dig at the "be patient", "keep the faith" crowd and I couldn't agree more. If rw really cared about winning, it's now or never in actuarial terms...he would be spending like a drunken sailor (or even like the jets) just to have a chance to have a winning franchise before he dies. "long term plan" is not an option at 92 and since he's stated he's gonna sell on his death you can't argue that it's being planned for then, either. Face it, the bills on field success is a low priority for ralph despite what he says publicly. Another explanation is that he, unlike many here, doesn't believe it possible to field a winner before he dies so why waste the money.
icymonsters Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 though I on't agree with the idea here, i do like the trade down idea. collect 2nd and 3rd round picks if at all possible. This is the fastest way to collect talent in a deep draft. We have needs all over the place, imagine if you could move: from 9 to 14 and get a 3rd from 14 to 23 and get a 2nd and 5th from 23 to 28 and get a 3rd from 28 to 36 and get a 3rd now you've taken 1 pick and turned it into 5 sure it would be difficult but other teams can do it...Nix should keep his options open. putting it that way does look good...time will tell
dailar Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 I still dont see my point being answered in that I dont see who wants to trade up. I want the bills to trade down but everyone has to be thinking the same thing as this draft class is so deep. The more picks the better.
B Rob Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 How about we keep trading down until we own the whole seventh round. I thought it was steal underwear. Then . Then Profit.
Astrobot Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 I'm not so sure trading down is the best solution for this team. The team has urgent needs at LT, RT, and NT because there is no one currently on the roster that can play those positions at a competent NFL level. Two out of our first three picks should be at those positions. In upcoming drafts, however, I'd advocate a best player available drafting philosophy rather than trading down. This team needs talent. The Bills best player of the past decade is soon to retire. There are no stars on this team. Even the Rams have an elite player at one position. The Bills have drafted decently after the first round, but what has that gotten us? Plenty of decent players. Almost every first round selection in the past ten years has been a flop. They simply need to start hitting on their first rounders, where the top flight talent should be. That's why, after this years draft, I'd prefer they draft the best player available regardless of position (within reason). Here is the Buffalo Bills BPA Draft I just did on the simulator at DraftTek. I took the BPA regardless of position: 1-Derrick Morgan DE---Oh, you didn't want a 4-3 DE? He was the BPA! 2-Aaron Hernandez TE---Well, maybe he and S Nelson would be our starters...still no LT though 3-Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech---Maybe we go to a 3-2-6 defense...still no LT 4-Jeremy Williams WRF Tulane or Joe McKnight RB (tie)...they can run 2.5 second plays before our QB (whoever) falls 5-Tony Moeaki TE Iowa---Oooh! Now I have 3 TE's. Hope they can block... 6-Rashawn Jackson FB Virginia---Finally! Someone who can block! Could use a real LT or a NT, though... 6-Rahim Alem OLB34 LSU---Okay. A need and BPA... 7-Freddie Barnes WRF Bowling Green---Decent WR, but we're down to the 3rd string QB by midseason... 7-Marcus Easley WRF Connecticut---See above I don't particularly care if we go BPA after the first 5 rounds, but until then, we had better have a NT, LT, and OLB who can play before Saturday of draft weekend...
Pirate Angel Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 2010 Trade down from top ten 2011 No Football 2012 Trade down from top five 2013 Trade down from top ten 2014 Trade down from top fifteen 2015 Bills over 500. First time in a long time. How OLD is RW now? It won't matter, Bills five year plan is on track! None of this quick turn around crap for the Bills. They do it the OLD fashion way!! In 2015 BN/CC lead us to the promise land. They will still be @ OBD, right?? Man, I am stoked. what if Suh. McCoy. or Bradford fall to us?
Hanoverbills Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 Who do we trade down to though? Everyone wants the most picks as they all know the depth of this draft. Not criticising the plan as I agree with trading down this year. Just wonder who wants our #9 pick enough to give us a first and an additional second. Maybe Seattle, if Jimmy Clausen is there and they draft Okung with there first choice. Maybe they would trade they're other first rd. draft choice [ 14th overall ] and maybe there second or third for our pick. I'm not high on Clausen and I'm hoping that Nix isn't either. I would draft Bulaga if he were there [ 9th overall ] and if Bulaga isn't there, I would trade down for more picks. We need alot of help, so get more draft choices.
Red Posted March 14, 2010 Posted March 14, 2010 what if Suh. McCoy. or Bradford fall to us? Dream on. Suh is clearly the best player available in this year's draft. No way he makes it out of the top 3.
LGB Posted March 15, 2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Trading down might make sense if you were a team that needed a lot of help in a lot of areas and you didn't care about drafting impact players - because you haven't been able to draft too many first round players that have had an impact on your team (*) in the last decade anyway (so why start now?). This list below is all you need to know about why there hasn't been one whiff of the playoffs in WNY for a very long time: 2000 Erik Flowers * 2001 Nate Clements 2002 Mike Williams * 2003 Willis McGahee * 2004 Lee Evans 2004 J.P. Losman * 2005 No 1st Round Pick, Roscoe Parrish (2nd Round) 2006 Donte Whitner * 2006 John McCargo * 2007 Marshawn Lynch * 2008 Leodis McKelvin T 2009 Aaron Maybin * 2009 Eric Wood ?
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