erynthered Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 There's a short article and audio clip with him being interviewed by the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/201...rboarding.shtml
Keukasmallies Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 There is that school of thought out there that says in order to defeat an opponent one must play by the rules the opponent brings to the field of competition, or the mutually agreed-upon rules. I don't think there are any of the latter, so the former just might rule the day. Of course, then one has to attempt to equate waterboarding with bombs strapped under a woman's burkha....
KD in CA Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Good for him. I never really understood all the hoopla about splashing some water in the face of terrorists. I'd do a hell of a lot worse if it was my job to get info out of these sub-humans.
RkFast Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Ill never be able to reconcile how making someone who plans to carry out a slaughter of innocent people "scared and uncomfortable" in an effort to get him or his cohorts to stop said slaughter is morally wrong.
erynthered Posted March 12, 2010 Author Posted March 12, 2010 Good for him. I never really understood all the hoopla about splashing some water in the face of terrorists. I'd do a hell of a lot worse if it was my job to get info out of these sub-humans. After they got all the info out of those three it should have been "double tap" time. If true, General Pershing had the right idea. http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp
DC Tom Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 While I may admit the necessity of it depending on circumstances, anyone who's "proud" of such a thing is an idiot.
KD in CA Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Ill never be able to reconcile how making someone who plans to carry out a slaughter of innocent people "scared and uncomfortable" in an effort to get him or his cohorts to stop said slaughter is morally wrong. It's not morally wrong. It just that dealing with ugly realities makes cowards scared and uncomfortable.
Adam Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Ill never be able to reconcile how making someone who plans to carry out a slaughter of innocent people "scared and uncomfortable" in an effort to get him or his cohorts to stop said slaughter is morally wrong. "You don't stop evil by doing evil" If you want to fight terror, then fight terror for real.
ieatcrayonz Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 "You don't stop evil by doing evil" If you want to fight terror, then fight terror for real. I don't get it.
stuckincincy Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 There's a short article and audio clip with him being interviewed by the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/201...rboarding.shtml I also defend it. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...med-to-abc.html
PastaJoe Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Fortunately, the current administration, John McCain, and most military with experience with the tactic don't agree with Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, or those of you who think it's 'splashing water'. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2007/11/09/nance “Anyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,” “People who have worn the uniform and had the experience know that this is a terrible and odious practice and should never be condoned in the U.S. We are a better nation than that.” -John McCain http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/26/mccain-mukasey-torture/
Adam Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I don't get it. You can't claim to fight terror if you utilize torture methods. Torture isn't even a good interrogation technique- it isn't consistent enough to act upon the information. Not to mention that it is torture.
KD in CA Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 "You don't stop evil by doing evil" "Yes you do." Sincerely, The Allies
DC Tom Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 You can't claim to fight terror if you utilize torture methods. Torture isn't even a good interrogation technique- it isn't consistent enough to act upon the information. Not to mention that it is torture. Reminds me a lot of Bishop Hedd's posts.
ieatcrayonz Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 You can't claim to fight terror if you utilize torture methods. Torture isn't even a good interrogation technique- it isn't consistent enough to act upon the information. Not to mention that it is torture. I have a feeling you wouldn't be saying that if your head was rolling down a flight of stairs.
Adam Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Reminds me a lot of Bishop Hedd's posts. I know what you are getting at, but if you are fighting for something you believe in, or fighting against something you don't believe in, then stick by it. This is proof that there are no longer good guys and bad guys in the world. Moral absolutes make people feel all warm and fuzzy, but they don't exist.
RkFast Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Im sure if we didnt "sink to their level" we would have easily defeated Japan and Germany. Tom's right though. The requirement to perform an act doesnt always come with "pride" in tow.
ieatcrayonz Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I know what you are getting at, but if you are fighting for something you believe in, or fighting against something you don't believe in, then stick by it. This is proof that there are no longer good guys and bad guys in the world. Moral absolutes make people feel all warm and fuzzy, but they don't exist. I don't get it.
Adam Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I don't get it. I hope you don't lose sleep over my comments.....
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