Beerball Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
The Dean Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. It was wrong and stupid to add that phrase, IMO. But it is also stupid to spend the time/money/attention to remove it. Let's just move on.
WellDressed Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 What a waste, it's "One Nation Under a Groove"
Dante Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I don't care about the god thing necessarily. To me its about history and tradition. If you toss that stuff away just because someone is too much of a sensitive douche then your country has no culture. Much like Canada did when they pissed all over Mounties. Letting people where turbans instead of the traditional Mountie uniform. So, there culture is more important than Canada's. When a country lets something like that happen that place has no balls.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Why do people even care about this? I'm about as agnositc as you get, and I fail to see how this could possibly matter. One nation under god, one nation under allah, one nation under gary busey...who cares? It's just words, people.
The Dean Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I don't care about the god thing necessarily. To me its about history and tradition. If you toss that stuff away just because someone is too much of a sensitive douche then your country has no culture. Much like Canada did when they pissed all over Mounties. Letting people where turbans instead of the traditional Mountie uniform. So, there culture is more important than Canada's. When a country lets something like that happen that place has no balls. But you should remember, Under God was added to the pledge in 1954. It isn't exactly steeped in tradition and apparently the Pledge was OK to change then. As for the Mounties, it's a freakin' HAT. Turban, Cowboy hat, Beret, does it really matter?
/dev/null Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Why do people even care about this? I'm about as agnositc as you get, and I fail to see how this could possibly matter. One nation under god, one nation under allah, one nation under gary busey...who cares? It's just words, people. But what about the money? I propose changing In God We Trust to In Chuck Norris We Trust
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 But what about the money? I propose changing In God We Trust to In Chuck Norris We Trust There might be some conflict between Chuck Norris and if you put them on the same bill.
UConn James Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 But what about the money? I propose changing In God We Trust to In Chuck Norris We Trust On the rare occasion when we do say the Pledge, I have always omitted saying the "under God" phrase. I may insert "...under Chuck Norris..." next time it comes up. I wish the phrase hadn't been forced in there. If people want to pray on their own initiative, fine, and I will defend to the death their right to do that. My problem is the codification. It raises my ire to hear people smugly say "Oh, it's just a generic word. Doesn't mean anything. Just play along with it...." It is patently a state endorsement of religion. The word "God" is religious by its very definition! Don't smirk and pretend that it isn't. To agree with The Dean, here, tho... Right now, there is much badder fish to fry.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 On the rare occasion when we do say the Pledge, I have always omitted saying the "under God" phrase. I may insert "...under Chuck Norris..." next time it comes up. I wish the phrase hadn't been forced in there. If people want to pray on their own initiative, fine, and I will defend to the death their right to do that. My problem is the codification. It raises my ire to hear people smugly say "Oh, it's just a generic word. Doesn't mean anything. Just play along with it...." It is patently a state endorsement of religion. The word "God" is religious by its very definition! Don't smirk and pretend that it isn't. To agree with The Dean, here, tho... Right now, there is much badder fish to fry. I don't have a problem with the state endorsing religion, as long as it doesn't impinge upon my rights to free religion and free speech. I mean, it's not like we're legally required to ever recite the pledge. That's the beauty of this country...it's the freedom itself, not the symbolism. I can sing "I Touch Myself" during the freakin Star Spangled Banner and nobody's allowed to touch me. Not that I would.
/dev/null Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 There might be some conflict between Chuck Norris and if you put them on the same bill. You know why Washington needed wooden teeth? One word: Roundhouse
Dante Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 But you should remember, Under God was added to the pledge in 1954. It isn't exactly steeped in tradition and apparently the Pledge was OK to change then.As for the Mounties, it's a freakin' HAT. Turban, Cowboy hat, Beret, does it really matter? Good point. But I disagree on the Mountie thing. Canada being a small country and next to the States doesn't have an abundance of their own distinctive culture. I think the Mounties are one of those things things that combine history and tradition. But I guess some sikhs cultural heritage from a country he no longer live in is more important.
John Adams Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Some kids piss their name in the snow. Chuck Norris can piss his name into concrete.
DaGimp Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Why do people even care about this? I'm about as agnositc as you get, and I fail to see how this could possibly matter. One nation under god, one nation under allah, one nation under gary busey...who cares? It's just words, people. it's one nation under the GIMP-get it right
KD in CA Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Why do people even care about this? I'm about as agnositc as you get, and I fail to see how this could possibly matter. One nation under god, one nation under allah, one nation under gary busey...who cares? It's just words, people. Hippies like to entertain themselves with things that waste money and draw attention.
Gary M Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. AMEN
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Hippies like to entertain themselves with things that waste money and draw attention. I'm old enough to know that's true!
CountDorkula Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 But what about the money? I propose changing In God We Trust to In Chuck Norris We Trust
HopsGuy Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 There might be some conflict between Chuck Norris and if you put them on the same bill. Chuck is already on the one. Whose eye do you think that is looking down on the unfinished pyramid? Annuit Coeptis = "He favors our endeavors." "He" is Chuck. C'mon people! BTW - It was the Baptists of Danbury Connecticut that send a letter to Thomas Jefferson urging that there be a separation between Church and State. Know why? They feared persecution from the Congregationalists of Danbury Connecticut. So there you go.
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