1B4IDie Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 No it's not... any team in the NFL would dump their "tandems" or "change of pace guy" if they could get their hands on a Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, MJD or Steven Jackson. Really? You base this on what? Is anyone offering anything for these players? You think you'll see another team trade their whole draft for a RB like the Saints did back in the day. You don't think the Rams would take a 1st and 2nd for Steven Jackson. This has got to be one of the weakest classes for RBs in along time. If it were so important in the NFL to have an "Elite" RB why wouldn't a team make a bold move for one of these guys? When is the last time you've seen a big trade or move for RB? Its not 1990 anymore. Your post shows you're not paying attention.
Rob's House Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 really? a dime a dozen... tell that to Washington, Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland, San Diego, Indianapolis, NYG, Philly, Seattle, Chicago, KC and a dozen other teams last year. nice try though. How did Buffalo get on this list? When the thug couldn't get it done a guy they pulled out of NFL Europe and barely decided to pay even chump change to came through big. And he makes less than they're paying Cornhole Green!
earthtobrint Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 really? a dime a dozen... tell that to Washington, Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland, San Diego, Indianapolis, NYG, Philly, Seattle, Chicago, KC and a dozen other teams last year. nice try though. Indianapolis, San Diego, and Philadelphia all had pass-happy gameplans. The rest of those teams you listed are a who's who of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. Seattle, Cleveland, and KC all have talented young running backs that put up huge numbers when given the playing time. Justin Forsett, Jerome Harrison, and Jamal Charles were drafted in the 7th, 5th, and 3rd rounds, respectively. Those teams' lack of a running game stem from offensive line deficiency or gameplan unbalance, not an inability to find a good running back. There are a few exceptions but for the most part running backs are indeed a dime a dozen and have short lifespans.
JohnC Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 #9 Buffalo Bills: Trent Williams OT Oklahoma would be fantastic. Not sexy but very needed. If we took Clausen it would be a disaster! Very mature view. DarthIce does not like you. Be very careful. He is going to spew some poisonous venom toward you.
manbeast Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Gailey doesn't need a franchise QB to be successful. As soon as they are done evaluating this pool if they did not find a late round QB they will concentrate their resources to find one next year. They will go with the lines in the first.
manbeast Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Very mature view. DarthIce does not like you. Be very careful. He is going to spew some poisonous venom toward you. Maybe newcombo needs to change his name to lukeicemelter.
reddogblitz Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 No way in H-E-double Hockey Sticks Clausen falls to 9. I'd be happy to get a good OT. Clausen would be hard to pass up if he did fall that far though.
CosmicBills Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 really? a dime a dozen... tell that to Washington, Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland, San Diego, Indianapolis, NYG, Philly, Seattle, Chicago, KC and a dozen other teams last year. nice try though. This is one of the craziest posts I've seen all off season ... and that's saying something. Holy God.
JohnC Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Maybe newcombo needs to change his name to lukeicemelter. Are you suggesting that he is a drip????
Chicago_Mike Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Really? You base this on what?Is anyone offering anything for these players? You think you'll see another team trade their whole draft for a RB like the Saints did back in the day. You don't think the Rams would take a 1st and 2nd for Steven Jackson. This has got to be one of the weakest classes for RBs in along time. If it were so important in the NFL to have an "Elite" RB why wouldn't a team make a bold move for one of these guys? When is the last time you've seen a big trade or move for RB? Its not 1990 anymore. Your post shows you're not paying attention. You're being completely idiotic. These teams would never move these players to begin with... seriously, why would the Titans take a 1st rounder for Johnson. That makes zero sense. If either Johnson, MJD, etc. were on the Bills, you'd take a first round pick for him b/c running backs are a dime a dozen? Glad your not a GM buddy.
Chicago_Mike Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 How did Buffalo get on this list? When the thug couldn't get it done a guy they pulled out of NFL Europe and barely decided to pay even chump change to came through big. And he makes less than they're paying Cornhole Green! If you think Buffalo has a great running game, you're kidding yourself... middle of the road, at best.
Chicago_Mike Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Indianapolis, San Diego, and Philadelphia all had pass-happy gameplans. The rest of those teams you listed are a who's who of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. Seattle, Cleveland, and KC all have talented young running backs that put up huge numbers when given the playing time. Justin Forsett, Jerome Harrison, and Jamal Charles were drafted in the 7th, 5th, and 3rd rounds, respectively. Those teams' lack of a running game stem from offensive line deficiency or gameplan unbalance, not an inability to find a good running back. There are a few exceptions but for the most part running backs are indeed a dime a dozen and have short lifespans. First off, Indy can't run the ball. Pass happy or not... they're bad at it. That's why they drafted Brown. Same applies for San Diego, who had one of the worst averages in YPC. With Westbrook out too, Philly went with their skill... their young WRs. And they ultimately lost b/c they couldn't run the ball. As for Forsett, Harrison and Charles... please. Forsett was behind Julius Jones. If Seattle was so high on Forsett, their interest would be zero for Spiller. If Charles is so good, why did the Chiefs need to bring in a 1400 yd. rusher? They have just as many needs as us. And as for Harrison, look who he played the last three games -- there's his whole statistical year.
Steely Dan Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 No matter what I still want a LT/NT -- just want to make that clear before I begin. Firstly, I don't think Lynch is going to be here next year, and that's why the Bills are evaluating Spiller to begin with. So, I don't think it's out of the question... would I be upset with this pick? Yes, but at least it's not Maybin. Plus, the proof is in the pudding... RBs are much less risky than QBs. Secondly, outside of some mock drafts, there hasn't been too much chatter about Clausen coming to Buffalo. I just don't see it happening. I think Brady Quinn has a better shot of landing here than Clausen. I could be wrong on this, but I really haven't seen too much interest even on the Bills' side. At this time of year that can be a sure sign they're interested but the Bills have met with Clausen. that's just not true..RBs are a dime a dozen, and elite or not, they last 5 years LT - 9 years Thurman Thomas - 13 years Emmitt Smith - 15 years Walter Payton - 13 years Just to name a few. A great back like Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson only come along once in awhile and can last 10 years or more. JMO Really? You base this on what?Is anyone offering anything for these players? You think you'll see another team trade their whole draft for a RB like the Saints did back in the day. You don't think the Rams would take a 1st and 2nd for Steven Jackson. This has got to be one of the weakest classes for RBs in along time. If it were so important in the NFL to have an "Elite" RB why wouldn't a team make a bold move for one of these guys? When is the last time you've seen a big trade or move for RB? Its not 1990 anymore. Your post shows you're not paying attention. Those RB's aren't for trade unless three first rounders or more were offered. The fact that they are so valued by their teams shows you're not paying attention.
Chicago_Mike Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 At this time of year that can be a sure sign they're interested but the Bills have met with Clausen. LT - 9 years Thurman Thomas - 13 years Emmitt Smith - 15 years Walter Payton - 13 years Just to name a few. A great back like Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson only come along once in awhile and can last 10 years or more. JMO Those RB's aren't for trade unless three first rounders or more were offered. The fact that they are so valued by their teams shows you're not paying attention. Thank you.
1B4IDie Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 First off, Indy can't run the ball. Pass happy or not... they're bad at it. That's why they drafted Brown. Same applies for San Diego, who had one of the worst averages in YPC. With Westbrook out too, Philly went with their skill... their young WRs. And they ultimately lost b/c they couldn't run the ball. As for Forsett, Harrison and Charles... please. Forsett was behind Julius Jones. If Seattle was so high on Forsett, their interest would be zero for Spiller. If Charles is so good, why did the Chiefs need to bring in a 1400 yd. rusher? They have just as many needs as us. And as for Harrison, look who he played the last three games -- there's his whole statistical year. They brought the other backs in, because, get this, teams are moving to a commitee approach and "elite" RBs are dinosaurs. You misinterpret building a stable of RBs for evidence that most NFLs teams are making moves to try and get 1 workhouse "elite. I asked a question. When was the last time any team in the NFL made a move for a RB or traded up in the draft for a RB. (Your answer BTW is Clinton Portis in 2004.) How many trade ups or big deals happened with WRs and QBs since 2004. Now ask your self if franchises really were trying to develop "elite" RBs would you see franchises make more moves to obtain RBs? Open your eyes. Also Your is second person possessive and You're is a contraction for You Are. As in you're clearly not paying attention and must not done well in on your English homework.
1B4IDie Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 At this time of year that can be a sure sign they're interested but the Bills have met with Clausen. LT - 9 years Thurman Thomas - 13 years Emmitt Smith - 15 years Walter Payton - 13 years Just to name a few. A great back like Chris Johnson or Adrian Peterson only come along once in awhile and can last 10 years or more. JMO Those RB's aren't for trade unless three first rounders or more were offered. The fact that they are so valued by their teams shows you're not paying attention. This is 2010 and you're not paying attention either. Walter Payton, Emmit Smith and Thurman Thomas are dinosaurs. Teams do not build their franchise around and elite back anymore. Look at your own example Adrian Peterson is on one of the most pass happy teams in the NFL. He became an after thought when the Vikes were trying to clinch their playoff spot. Brad Childress and the Vikings didn't sit back and say we have an "elite" RB so our offense is good. He beg borrowed and pleaded for Favre to come back so his team could win. What QB did OJ, Walter Payton, or Earl Campbell have? Who knows and who really cares? Teams were built around RBs. That's not the case in 2010. If you want to ignore the facts go ahead.
reddogblitz Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 What QB did Earl Campbell have? Dan Pastorini and Kenny Stabler
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