Conch Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 is he still at OBD or did he leave without a contract?
markghbelobils Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Whats the deal with this guy havent heard anything since this morning .. has anyone else??
markghbelobils Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 hahah i started the same post as you... yeahh idk im trying to figure that out as well
JStranger76 Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Count me in as wondering what the hell is going on here........
Doc Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 His status is he's still a first round bust. But could be a halfway decent backup DT/NT.
silvermike Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Pssh - you expect the Bills to keep the fans informed? They keep a powerful radio silence on all their doings, until they've been reported by leaks from player/coach agents. I don't know if it's strategy or indifference, but they really keep things quiet.
Wagner Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 His status is he's still a first round bust. But could be a halfway decent backup DT/NT.
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 I am guessing he is either still in buffalo or he didn't sign. if he signed, I think they would announce it pretty quickly.
cåblelady Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Cornell Green barely got a mention (aside from Chris Brown's blog) before he signed. ......and no v-text when he did sign....but, we get a text about Klopen-whatever. Doh.
oak tree 12 Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 His status is he's still a first round bust. But could be a halfway decent backup DT/NT. clueless comment,he played very well last year with minnie in their interior rotation. 3 sacks and 19 tackles. you obviously have no idea what you are talking about!
silvermike Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 clueless comment,he played very well last year with minnie in their interior rotation. 3 sacks and 19 tackles. you obviously have no idea what you are talking about! Those basically Ryan Denney's numbers. He's going to need to be bigger than his stats if he's going to be an upgrade.
Arkady Renko Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Those basically Ryan Denney's numbers. He's going to need to be bigger than his stats if he's going to be an upgrade. It's more impressive to get those stats as a DT than as a DE.
Red Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Because Marcus Stroud is a big, well, MEOW. I think he's horrible. He can't anchor and will get moved by the slightest whiff of a block. The sooner he's obsolete, the better we'll be. Yeah, I really hate to agree with this because when he was in Jacksonville (pre-steroid bust) he was a force and highly regarded when paired with Henderson. I see Stroud more like a Richard Seymour-type of player in a 3-4. And to be honest, I don't think that the 3-4 these days is truly a 3-4 like the Bills ran in the early 90's. Those early 90's teams had Bruce Smith and Phil Hansen at end, and both were a tad undersized but strong at the point of attack and in Bruce's case...well, the Hall of Fame was not a fluke. With the exception of Jeff Wright, we then always had total studs manning the NT position (think Mt. Washington), which I believe is the true fundamental definition of the 3-4. Nowadays, the players are mixed and matched so much, and things are so hybrid that its hard to get a true vibe for the overall scheme itself and how players fit into it. For instance, Aaron Kampman was awesome as a 4-3 LDE for Green Bay, but then they switch over to a 3-4 and move him to an OLB, and he struggled mightily. Is this an omen for Schobel (should he return) and Kelsay? Kelsay seems way to stiff in the hips to effectively cover anyone, and he was never that great of a pass rusher. So, can Stroud play DE? Well, for starters, he sure is bigger than either Schobel or Kelsay. Time will tell...
PearlHowardman Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Dunno! In the meantime, here's a good read from a Boston sports site regarding the AFC East. They neglect to mention the Buffalo Bills, unless I'm mistaken. http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...e_power_sh.html
Red Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Who cares? Did anyone hear about Leon Seals? Phil Hansen? Darryl Talley? Mark Kelso? Don Beebe? Steve Tasker? Andre Reed came out of Kutztown State. Probably not. But they all turned into pretty solid players once they got with the Bills. I compare it to low round draft choices. They may not have the glitz and glamour of those 1st rounders, but I'll take a snarling 7th rounder that plays like a 1st than a Donte Whitner-type of pick that so far has talked more than produced on the field.
rstencel Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 And what about Kyle Williams? What about him, hes too small to be full time NT and too slow to move out to end. He would be a situational sub, most likely on pass rushing downs when go to 4 man line, or as rotational player at best. When hes in would have to play a 1 gap scheme, and ILB's would have to take on Guards on running plays, so wouldn't want him in there for too many downs.
rstencel Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Yeah, I really hate to agree with this because when he was in Jacksonville (pre-steroid bust) he was a force and highly regarded when paired with Henderson. I see Stroud more like a Richard Seymour-type of player in a 3-4. And to be honest, I don't think that the 3-4 these days is truly a 3-4 like the Bills ran in the early 90's. Those early 90's teams had Bruce Smith and Phil Hansen at end, and both were a tad undersized but strong at the point of attack and in Bruce's case...well, the Hall of Fame was not a fluke. With the exception of Jeff Wright, we then always had total studs manning the NT position (think Mt. Washington), which I believe is the true fundamental definition of the 3-4. Nowadays, the players are mixed and matched so much, and things are so hybrid that its hard to get a true vibe for the overall scheme itself and how players fit into it. For instance, Aaron Kampman was awesome as a 4-3 LDE for Green Bay, but then they switch over to a 3-4 and move him to an OLB, and he struggled mightily. Is this an omen for Schobel (should he return) and Kelsay? Kelsay seems way to stiff in the hips to effectively cover anyone, and he was never that great of a pass rusher. So, can Stroud play DE? Well, for starters, he sure is bigger than either Schobel or Kelsay. Time will tell... Lets hope Stroud can play end. Good thing about lineman in most 3-4's is their job is mostly to tie up blockers to keep the LB's free to make plays. So he wouldn't have to make allot of plays as much as make them have to double team him. If all your DLineman force double teams then you LB's can have a feild day racking up the tackles and sacks. Think Stroud could do a good job, as long as is fast enough to have threat of going around end occasionally on passing downs to keep the Tackles honest, or the primary rushing LB plays to his outside, and they force the line to shift to his side so he can work on collapsing the pocket on passing downs. The still need one more end however, as don't think Johnson is answer as every down DE. He makes a good rotation guy though, as has enough speed and size to hold his own, just doesn't have enough moves to keep defenses honest and force double teams IMO.
manbeast Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Those basically Ryan Denney's numbers. He's going to need to be bigger than his stats if he's going to be an upgrade. Denney was an end not a tackle those are really good numbers for a situational DT. Only question is How much did he benefit from the guys around him?
tony320 Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 We add Kennedy to start short term, pick up his backip/future starter in the draft, and get an extra 3rd roundder to address other needs.
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 As Tim Graham pointed out on his blog, Kennedy probably benefitted from playing beside other outstanding DL in Minnesota, one of which is arguably the best pass rusher in the game. That's true, but what are we asking him to do? Are we asking him to anchor a pass rush, or to eat up blocks? I sort of see where the Bills are going here. They know they won't get a top notch NT this season, at best they get someone like Cody who's a bit of a risk/project. In the short term, rather than having one giant NT they can actually get 3 big DL and put them all out there at once. In essence they are all functioning as space eating NTs and if they pressure the QB it's a bonus. This is particularly effective if we end up large at OLB as well which would be the case with Schobel and Maybin out there. There'd really be a 5 man line that could move around and morph into different alignments to confuse the offense. The anchors in the middle would be Poz and Mitchell, neither of whom are small when compared to some 3-4 ILBs and who both have experience in coverage as well as playing OLB if they morphed into a 4 man line by having one of the OLBs put their hand down. God forbid, we'd have some versatility.
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