GG Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 What do you have against white people? They're aborting themselves out of existence. Whatchu mean by "they?" Now the masses are coming for you! They, the multitude who make good cheap stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frit0 Bandit0 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Since the Italians and Irish quit breeding like rabbits the Churches only hope are the Mexican and or Latino litters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Ok. Chinese 1830 - 1860 Russian Jews 1910 - 1930 Puerto Ricans 1950s Mexicans 1990+ Blacks 1650 - ? Then: Immigrant can't find work = risk to the immigrant Now: Immigrant can't find work = risk to taxpayers due to entitlements Now: Illegal immigrant finds work, takes job from an American and raise cost to taxpayers who are now funding unemployment benefits and other entitlements for out of work American. Now: Illegal immigrants give birth to "US citizens" and immediatley become consumers of services (school, health care, etc) at huge cost to taxpayers. Now: Illegal immigrants grow in numbers and demand rights. Blood relatives of illegal immigrants that are US citizens vote in elections for candidates that support the cause for their families even though it violates US law. Group as a whole shows no respect for US laws. Near future: Congress and Obama give path to citizenship for illegal immigrants which will increase published unemployment rate and result in huge entitlement cost increases to taxpayers. It is forecasted that we need to generate 100,000 new jobs per month in our economy just to keep pace with numbers of people entering the workforce. US economy cannot generate this number of jobs and absorb new citizens into the workforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Then: Immigrant can't find work = risk to the immigrant Now: Immigrant can't find work = risk to taxpayers due to entitlements Now: Illegal immigrant finds work, takes job from an American and raise cost to taxpayers who are now funding unemployment benefits and other entitlements for out of work American. Now: Illegal immigrants give birth to "US citizens" and immediatley become consumers of services (school, health care, etc) at huge cost to taxpayers. Now: Illegal immigrants grow in numbers and demand rights. Blood relatives of illegal immigrants that are US citizens vote in elections for candidates that support the cause for their families even though it violates US law. Group as a whole shows no respect for US laws. Near future: Congress and Obama give path to citizenship for illegal immigrants which will increase published unemployment rate and result in huge entitlement cost increases to taxpayers. It is forecasted that we need to generate 100,000 new jobs per month in our economy just to keep pace with numbers of people entering the workforce. US economy cannot generate this number of jobs and absorb new citizens into the workforce. Nice to know that your knowledge of the history of the US is filtered by anti-immigrant propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Now: Illegal immigrant finds work, takes job from an American and raise cost to taxpayers who are now funding unemployment benefits and other entitlements for out of work American. Who's giving them these jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Nice to know that your knowledge of the history of the US is filtered by anti-immigrant propaganda. I like his idea that Americans are rushing to the jobs illegals are taking. Yeah, so man Americans are dying to work as mushroom pickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Then: Immigrant can't find work = risk to the immigrant Now: Immigrant can't find work = risk to taxpayers due to entitlements Now: Illegal immigrant finds work, takes job from an American and raise cost to taxpayers who are now funding unemployment benefits and other entitlements for out of work American. Now: Illegal immigrants give birth to "US citizens" and immediatley become consumers of services (school, health care, etc) at huge cost to taxpayers. Now: Illegal immigrants grow in numbers and demand rights. Blood relatives of illegal immigrants that are US citizens vote in elections for candidates that support the cause for their families even though it violates US law. Group as a whole shows no respect for US laws. Near future: Congress and Obama give path to citizenship for illegal immigrants which will increase published unemployment rate and result in huge entitlement cost increases to taxpayers. It is forecasted that we need to generate 100,000 new jobs per month in our economy just to keep pace with numbers of people entering the workforce. US economy cannot generate this number of jobs and absorb new citizens into the workforce. Unless you're Cherokee, shut the !@#$ up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Unless you're Cherokee, shut the !@#$ up. You can't be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I like his idea that Americans are rushing to the jobs illegals are taking. Yeah, so man Americans are dying to work as mushroom pickers. Labor is a supply and demand market. If illegals will pick mushromms at $8/hour, but Americans won't do the work for less than $10/hour then the rate to pick mushroom has to rise to $10/hour and the price of mushrooms in the super market has to rise. It's that simple. Right now, there is an ample supply of labor among Americans to pick mushrooms. You can't be pro jobs and pro illegal mmigration unless you also want higher unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 You can't be serious. Only half. I don't think people shouldn't B word about illegal immigration in America. I just think that anyone who does should do so with an appropriate sense of irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Who's giving them these jobs? Agree. We should fine the **** out of employers that hire them, but that's no excuse for not tightening the borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Nice to know that your knowledge of the history of the US is filtered by anti-immigrant propaganda. Doesn't matter what you and I think. The numbers (cost vs return on investment) clearly show that we can't afford the influx of people that we're experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Agree. We should fine the **** out of employers that hire them, but that's no excuse for not tightening the borders. I'm waiting for Alaska Darin to swoop in and tell you how much you hate Capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Doesn't matter what you and I think. The numbers (cost vs return on investment) clearly show that we can't afford the influx of people that we're experiencing. And I'm sure you've done an independent financial analysis of that RoI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Only half. I don't think people shouldn't B word about illegal immigration in America. I just think that anyone who does should do so with an appropriate sense of irony. I'm all for immigrants coming here if the environment at the time is such that we can provide opportunity for them and not at great expense to citizens. We're just not in a period now where can do that. Frankly we should have an immigration budget (in terms of headcount) and need to fix the leaky borders. I'm actually a descendent of Edward Fuller who came here on the Mayflower so go ahead and lob your bombs at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 And I'm sure you've done an independent financial analysis of that RoI I've done plenty reading on the cost of illegal immigration. You can do the same. The return on the investment (benefit) of illegal immigration is easily to calculate. Start at zero and you're near the finish line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I'm waiting for Alaska Darin to swoop in and tell you how much you hate Capitalism. I'm in love with capitalism and practicing it all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Labor is a supply and demand market. If illegals will pick mushromms at $8/hour, but Americans won't do the work for less than $10/hour then the rate to pick mushroom has to rise to $10/hour and the price of mushrooms in the super market has to rise. It's that simple. Right now, there is an ample supply of labor among Americans to pick mushrooms. You can't be pro jobs and pro illegal mmigration unless you also want higher unemployment. That's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I'm in love with capitalism and practicing it all day. Then you must hate the minimum wage laws that drive employers to illegal, cost effective labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Then you must hate the minimum wage laws that drive employers to illegal, cost effective labor. Minimum wage has little to do with the reason employers hire illegal labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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