gobillsinytown Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 McCargo is a 3 technique tackle. One gap, penetrate. But to do that, you have to have great anticipation. He doesn't have it. Unless he can convert to a pass rushing end in space, he's done.
billsfan_34 Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Sniff it out! I would guess that won't be hard, I think McCargo would have to be my least fav Bill/draft pick of the last few years so you are right I do feel the need to bash him. Donte on the other hand could be decent, but I am not sure he is the best guy we have at safety (lack of playing in position and injury concerns are my only beef with him, plus we have good guys there as well). I would rather they keep him or get good trade value for him. I am not so sure there is much trade value for mccargo. We reached for him when we drafted him and he hasnt done squat. Heck, he couldnt pass a physical in Indy. I think he will just be released. But I have been wrong before so time will tell. Donte is a serviceable backup, nothing more in this league. He just doesnt make plays or come up and crack someone.
Bob in STL Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I am not so sure there is much trade value for mccargo. We reached for him when we drafted him and he hasnt done squat. Heck, he couldnt pass a physical in Indy. I think he will just be released. But I have been wrong before so time will tell. Donte is a serviceable backup, nothing more in this league. He just doesnt make plays or come up and crack someone. He showed one glimpse of promise for a while but that a few years ago. He just doesn't move well and being a one gap DT makes him a long shot to even make this team.
Steely Dan Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Rfey, He cant stop the run in a 4-3 with a DT lined up next to him......how in the world would he stop the run when he filled the nose? I dont look for the nose to get pass rush in the new system....but they GOTTA tie up blockers so the LB's can make plays. I know it probably has a 1% chance of being successful but he's probably going to be on the TC roster and let him try to gain weight in this offseason and let him try in camp.
SWVABillsFan Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Any player can play any position, the question should have been would McCargo be a good nose tackle, and the answer to that question is, um, where does he rank on the depth chart? As Elvis once sang: way-o-down.
iinii Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I would like to see if McCargo can get his career going under Gailey's leadership. He has the size and body type needed to play the NT position. He seems to be the only NT sized player we have on the roster right now. I'm hoping some how the light turns on and he can become the player we drafted him to be. If he could turn into the starting NT, Maybin into a stud OLB, and Brohm into the next Drew Brees it would be a dream. Fantasy football
manbeast Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 lol, he is a one gap UT, can he play NT, lol, do you watch football? Sorry we had no idea we were talking to a defensive scout which team is it you work for. Don't be nasty and act like your above everyone else they asked a simple question. They don't deserve a dickhead response. There must be something there if Polian was ready to cough up a draft pick for the guy. What I myself can't figure out is why he looks dominant one minute and lost the next. It's got to be a motivation thing.
bkc Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 the sad thing is we could have had a 4th round pick for him
sharper802 Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I would like to see if McCargo can get his career going under Gailey's leadership. He has the size and body type needed to play the NT position. He seems to be the only NT sized player we have on the roster right now. I'm hoping some how the light turns on and he can become the player we drafted him to be. If he could turn into the starting NT, Maybin into a stud OLB, and Brohm into the next Drew Brees it would be a dream. No he can't play nose tackle. He can't even play the 3 technique DT in a 4-3. Could he compete for the DE spot opposite Stroud - maybe? He was supposed to have decent quickness and was supposed to be able to get penetration up the middle. Never saw it.
nucci Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I would like to see if McCargo can get his career going under Gailey's leadership. He has the size and body type needed to play the NT position. He seems to be the only NT sized player we have on the roster right now. I'm hoping some how the light turns on and he can become the player we drafted him to be. If he could turn into the starting NT, Maybin into a stud OLB, and Brohm into the next Drew Brees it would be a dream. I don't think McCargo wants to play anywhere.
Buffalo Beeeews Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I would like to see if McCargo can get his career going under Gailey's leadership. He has the size and body type needed to play the NT position. He seems to be the only NT sized player we have on the roster right now. I'm hoping some how the light turns on and he can become the player we drafted him to be. If he could turn into the starting NT, Maybin into a stud OLB, and Brohm into the next Drew Brees it would be a dream. To quote T.O.: "No, not really!"
indiragandhi'sthong Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 He was drafted as a quick, penetrating "Tampa 2" DT ... not a lard ass NT that we need ... if he survives on this team, I will be shocked.
Nanker Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 McCargo has started one game in four years. One game. He had zero tackles in 2008. Zero. He's amassed 48 total tackles in the 39 games he's played as a Bill in four years. 48. That's 1.23 tackles per game. McCargo is as Parcells says, a "DWI". Doesn't Want It. It's time for McCargo to get into his car and go, far away from Buffalo to someplace where they value small, slow unmotivated underachieving linemen. The Montreal Alouettes come to mind.
....lybob Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 McCargo's only chance would be if he could play the DE position- he's not the prototype but guys with similar builds like Cullen Jenkins have been ok.
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I think that John McCargo in his 4 seasons with Buffalo has proven to be an unreliable bust
vincec Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 DE depth player- but to be honest I don't see him making the team this season.
Astrobot Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I watch the Bills, so I guess no I don't watch football.
Ronin Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Can McCargo play NT? I would like to see if McCargo can get his career going under Gailey's leadership. He has the size and body type needed to play the NT position. He seems to be the only NT sized player we have on the roster right now. I'm hoping some how the light turns on and he can become the player we drafted him to be. If he could turn into the starting NT, Maybin into a stud OLB, and Brohm into the next Drew Brees it would be a dream. Can McCargo play DT in a standard 4-3? Or three technique like he was supposed to be able to do, effectively? No. He does not have anything even approaching the body type or size for a prototypical NT. I have no idea why you would think that. The prototypical NT is larger. He will be lucky to make the roster this season.
Bob in STL Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 McCargo has started one game in four years. One game.He had zero tackles in 2008. Zero. He's amassed 48 total tackles in the 39 games he's played as a Bill in four years. 48. That's 1.23 tackles per game. McCargo is as Parcells says, a "DWI". Doesn't Want It. It's time for McCargo to get into his car and go, far away from Buffalo to someplace where they value small, slow unmotivated underachieving linemen. The Montreal Alouettes come to mind. Ouch. Make him stop please. These facts just hurt. And we traded up to get him and paid him first round money.
BYGD1 Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 I would like to see if McCargo can get his career going under Gailey's leadership. He has the size and body type needed to play the NT position. He seems to be the only NT sized player we have on the roster right now. I'm hoping some how the light turns on and he can become the player we drafted him to be. If he could turn into the starting NT, Maybin into a stud OLB, and Brohm into the next Drew Brees it would be a dream. McCargo could not fight his way out of a wet paper bag, another wasted high draft pick trade or release now
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