NewEra Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 QB- Tyler Thigpen- traded for a 4th or 4th and pick next year. RB- Fred WR- Lee WR- Antonio Bryant WE- Mike Willams (Syracuse. 6'2 205) hardy and johnson battle TE- Shawn Nelson LT- Brian Bulaga LG- Levitre C- Wood RG- Incognito RT- Chad Clifton DE Marcus Stroud NT- Terrence Cody DE Kyle Williams OLB Joey Porter/ Eric Norwood MLB- Poz MLB Mitchell OLB Maybin CB McGee CB McKelvin/Florence S Byrd S Whitner/Wilson
uncle flap Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I'd be pretty happy with this, tho I think it's unlikely we get Thigpen. Ditto for Mike Williams. I would like to see Troy Smith and a rookie battle it out for QB. and I think we can/shld wait on WR with some decent options. I like what I've seen from Johnson in his limited playing time and Hardy has a lot of upside still. I do really want Mike Williams but I think we need to draft for depth in the trenches. 1st post- boo yeah!
Adam Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Before free agency/draft, it would look something like this QB: Trent Edwards (if healthy) RB: Fred Jackson LT: Open LG: Levitre- came a long way as a rookie C: Wood- Better than Hangartner RG: Meredith- has potential but shouldn't be worked in too fast RT: Chambers- stopgap TE: Nelson- shows some promise WR: Lee Evans WR: Steve Johnson- unless we find someone better, which Parrish isn't RE: Kyle Williams- a better penetrator than Stroud at this point NT: John McCargo- keep the proven guys in a better position LE: Marcus Stroud- still effective WOLB: Paul Pozluzny- see if he can do it WILB: Aaron Maybin- not an edge rusher- he if he can make a Farrior like transition on inside SILB: Kawika Mitchell SOLB: Aaron Schobel- one of our top defenders, very athletic CB: Mcgee CB McKelvin FS: Byrd SS Wilson
BillsPhan Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 QB- Tyler Thigpen- traded for a 4th or 4th and pick next year.WR- Antonio Bryant RT- Chad Clifton NT- Shaun Cody OLB Joey Porter I can't remember the Bills ever signing FIVE free agent starters (at least five GOOD free agent starters) in one off-season. It would be great to see all five of these guys brought in, but I'm sure you are being way too optimistic. And oh by the way, I'm not sold on Thigpen being a GOOD free agent starter anyway. If they bring him in, they had better draft one of the better QB's, like maybe Tony Pike, too.
JPS Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 QB- Tyler Thigpen- traded for a 4th or 4th and pick next year.RB- Fred WR- Lee WR- Antonio Bryant WE- Mike Willams (Syracuse. 6'2 205) hardy and johnson battle TE- Shawn Nelson LT- Brian Bulaga LG- Levitre C- Wood RG- Incognito RT- Chad Clifton DE Marcus Stroud NT- Shaun Cody DE Kyle Williams OLB Joey Porter/ Eric Norwood MLB- Poz MLB Mitchell OLB Maybin CB McGee CB McKelvin/Florence S Byrd S Whitner/Wilson If we're looking for the 1st overall pick next year, that oughta do it. I strongly disagree that Thigpen is an improvement over even Edwards or Brohm. And I hate the idea of picking up a bunch of old guys at the end of their career to go with our youth movement. Where does that put us in 2 years? I say draft your guys and play your guys. Or play our old guys like Schobel. But you don't go throwing around draft picks and FA money to buy yourself a different shade of mediocre.
Adam Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 If we're looking for the 1st overall pick next year, that oughta do it. I strongly disagree that Thigpen is an improvement over even Edwards or Brohm. And I hate the idea of picking up a bunch of old guys at the end of their career to go with our youth movement. Where does that put us in 2 years? I say draft your guys and play your guys. Or play our old guys like Schobel. But you don't go throwing around draft picks and FA money to buy yourself a different shade of mediocre. Exactly- getting a bunch of old guys turns you into the Raiders or Redskins
Bob in STL Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Before free agency/draft, it would look something like this QB: Trent Edwards (if healthy) RB: Fred Jackson LT: Open LG: Levitre- came a long way as a rookie C: Wood- Better than Hangartner RG: Meredith- has potential but shouldn't be worked in too fast RT: Chambers- stopgap TE: Nelson- shows some promise WR: Lee Evans WR: Steve Johnson- unless we find someone better, which Parrish isn't RE: Kyle Williams- a better penetrator than Stroud at this point NT: John McCargo- keep the proven guys in a better position LE: Marcus Stroud- still effective WOLB: Paul Pozluzny- see if he can do it WILB: Aaron Maybin- not an edge rusher- he if he can make a Farrior like transition on inside SILB: Kawika Mitchell SOLB: Aaron Schobel- one of our top defenders, very athletic CB: Mcgee CB McKelvin FS: Byrd SS Wilson Uugh. Even in a fantasy question you pick an offensive line and a defensive line that is worst than last years!! I'll skip Trent because we have nothing else but Chambers and McCargo? They were back ups last year. Chambers actually got cut before the season started. Chambers should never play another game as a Bill again and you have him as a starter? Meredith maybe at RT and either Wood or Incognito at RG makes more sense. Hangarter did a nice job at center while playing inbetween two rookies. McCargo at NT? He is an incredible kitty, always has some mystery ailments, he could never hold up at NT. Why not Poz on the inside? Why Maybin on the inside? You say he is "not an edge rusher?" Then why did we ever draft him?
thewildrabbit Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I'd fire Chan Gailey and hire Marty Schottenheimer Draft wise I'd go with Trent Edwards as QB and draft for the O line first 3 picks unless a defensive player was there I couldn't pass up. The reason I'd go with Edwards is the guy is smart (Stanford) and accurate, and used to running for his life behind a horrid Bills O line. No matter who they draft and find as a free agent the line will lack continuity for a year or so, until then I'd rather not have some rookie getting his brains beaten out. As for Thigpin, You really want to know what I'm give Miami for him... I usually flush that stuff.
peteski Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Thigpen will never be a superbowl winning quarterback. We do not need him. I don't know why people don't understand that.
CFLstyle Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 QB - Campbell/Fitzpatrick/Edwards RB - Jackson/Lynch WR - Evans/Hardy WR - Owens or Kevin Walter WE - S. Johnson TE - Nelson/Schoumann LT - Bulaga LG - Levitre C - Wood/Hangartner RG - Incognito RT - Merideth/Bell DE - Marcus Stroud NT - Casey Hampton DE - Kyle Williams OLB - Schobel/Ellis MLB - Poz MLB - Mitchell OLB - Maybin/Ellison CB - McGee/Youboty/Lankster CB - McKelvin/Florence/Corner SS - Whitner/Scott FS - Byrd/Wilson
Beebe's Kid Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Thigpen will never be a superbowl winning quarterback. We do not need him. I don't know why people don't understand that. Because you have never told us that you can see into the future. So, now that you have spoken, it's official. Who will lead us to the promise land, wise one?
Sisyphean Bills Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 A true GM wouldn't care who the starters might be. He'd care about 1) getting the right coaches, 2) getting the proper evaluation of where the biggest weaknesses on the team are, 3) put together a first rate scouting staff and get competent evaluations on college and pro personnel put together, and then 4) going after the best players to increase the level of competition across the entire roster and fill as many gaping holes as possible. Then, it is up to the coaches to evaluate the 80 guys we bring to camp, narrow it down to the best 53, and figure out how to win football games by playing the best of those players.
billsfan89 Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Its too late to change coaches but that's another story. QB- Kerry Collins (With Fitz and Brohm as backups) RB- Freddie and Lynch as a combo WR- Lee Evans, TO or Chris Chambers (Preferably TO but Chambers wouldn't be that bad of a backup plan), with Hardy and Stevie J battling it out at the slot. TE- Shawn Nelson and Ben Watson (Splitting time with Schoulman and Stupar as the backups) Offensive Line LT- Buluga (Or best LT at pick 9) LG- Levitre C- Hangartner RG- Wood RT- Bell/Meridith/3rd round pick battling it out Defense DE- Kyle Williams, Jarvis Green, Spencer Johnson, and Marcus Stroud NT- Terrance Cody and Jason Fergueson MLB- Poz, Mitchel, OLB- Schobel and Maybin CB- McGee. McKelvin, with Florence at Nickel and Corner at Dime and Lankaster as a backup SS- Whitner and Wilson battle it out FS- Byrd So my 1st 3 draft choices would be Buluga (Or the best LT available) Terrance Cody and a RT in round 3. I would then draft up my front 7 (Mostly look at getting a MLB and a OLB in rounds 4 and 5 because we are so thin at linebacker) with the rest of my mid and late round picks seeing as we are going to need to stock up on 3-4 talent. Key free agent acquisitions would be Kerry Collins, Chris Chambers if TO is not resigned, Ben Watson, Jarvis Green, and Jason Ferguson. All in all its about continuing to build the O-line and the new 3-4. Collins teaches Brohm (Who the new staff gets a whole year to look at), while the new O-line takes a year to continue to gel. Cody anchors the new 3-4 and we see who makes the successful conversion to the 3-4 from our Old D.
peteski Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Because you have never told us that you can see into the future. So, now that you have spoken, it's official. Who will lead us to the promise land, wise one? I don't know who it will be. Everyone who posts Thigpens stats forgets the most important one. 1win-10 losses. That is not good enough. Trent won more games this season. I hope Brohm will be the one to lead us to the promise land but I don't know. My crystal ball ran out of batteries so I can't answer you now.
thewildrabbit Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Its too late to change coaches but that's another story. QB- Kerry Collins (With Fitz and Brohm as backups) RB- Freddie and Lynch as a combo WR- Lee Evans, TO or Chris Chambers (Preferably TO but Chambers wouldn't be that bad of a backup plan), with Hardy and Stevie J battling it out at the slot. TE- Shawn Nelson and Ben Watson (Splitting time with Schoulman and Stupar as the backups) Offensive Line LT- Buluga (Or best LT at pick 9) LG- Levitre C- Hangartner RG- Wood RT- Bell/Meridith/3rd round pick battling it out Defense DE- Kyle Williams, Jarvis Green, Spencer Johnson, and Marcus Stroud NT- Terrance Cody and Jason Fergueson MLB- Poz, Mitchel, OLB- Schobel and Maybin CB- McGee. McKelvin, with Florence at Nickel and Corner at Dime and Lankaster as a backup SS- Whitner and Wilson battle it out FS- Byrd So my 1st 3 draft choices would be Buluga (Or the best LT available) Terrance Cody and a RT in round 3. I would then draft up my front 7 (Mostly look at getting a MLB and a OLB in rounds 4 and 5 because we are so thin at linebacker) with the rest of my mid and late round picks seeing as we are going to need to stock up on 3-4 talent. Key free agent acquisitions would be Kerry Collins, Chris Chambers if TO is not resigned, Ben Watson, Jarvis Green, and Jason Ferguson. All in all its about continuing to build the O-line and the new 3-4. Collins teaches Brohm (Who the new staff gets a whole year to look at), while the new O-line takes a year to continue to gel. Cody anchors the new 3-4 and we see who makes the successful conversion to the 3-4 from our Old D. Your certainly entitled to your opinion, but looking at last year would you really want a guy that had one of the very best running games to work with and still lost every game he started? I have the thought that he is finished as a starter, he flat out stunk it up, and honestly he is to expensive anyway. The free agent QB's stink this year, barring a trade or the draft I think the Bills would be foolish to bring in a FA when they already have 2 QB's with game experience. Lastly, I don't see Kerry Collins even listed as a free agent...
maryland-bills-fan Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 I'd fire Chan Gailey and hire Marty Schottenheimer Draft wise I'd go with Trent Edwards as QB and draft for the O line first 3 picks unless a defensive player was there I couldn't pass up. The reason I'd go with Edwards is the guy is smart (Stanford) and accurate, and used to running for his life behind a horrid Bills O line. No matter who they draft and find as a free agent the line will lack continuity for a year or so, until then I'd rather not have some rookie getting his brains beaten out. As for Thigpin, You really want to know what I'm give Miami for him... I usually flush that stuff. Actually, he is used to being NAILED behind a horrid Bills O line and spending time in the hospital.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 Bigger stronger faster L.B`s and De`s with one fat toad of a nose tackle.
peanuts Posted February 21, 2010 Posted February 21, 2010 draft 2010 #1 –Anthony Davis –OT Rutgers 6-6 –325lbs. #2- Cam Thomas- NT North Carolina 6-4 331 lbs. #3-Jason Fox –OT/OL Miami 6-6 314 lbs.
NewEra Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 I can't remember the Bills ever signing FIVE free agent starters (at least five GOOD free agent starters) in one off-season. It would be great to see all five of these guys brought in, but I'm sure you are being way too optimistic. And oh by the way, I'm not sold on Thigpen being a GOOD free agent starter anyway. If they bring him in, they had better draft one of the better QB's, like maybe Tony Pike, too. Hmmm, I meant Terrence Cody, my bad. And thigpen isn't a FA. 3 FA's, a trade for thigpen and Cody in the 2nd(if he's there)
NewEra Posted February 21, 2010 Author Posted February 21, 2010 Thigpen will never be a superbowl winning quarterback. We do not need him. I don't know why people don't understand that. Which QB that will defintely win a SB would you take? I chose Thigpen because I think he'd be relatively cheap and then we can draft or get a diff QB next year. Bradford/clausen....who knows if they'll be winners, I'm sure you don't. I decided to build our future OL before fixing our QB. That will be next year. Not like we're one year away from winning the SB
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