MOCK DRAFT GAME #2

[Astrobot]

Scenario #1 - Bills take Bradford

1 1 St Louis Ndamukong Suh DT43 Nebraska P4Grab +0 Value

1 2 Detroit Gerald McCoy DT43 Oklahoma P1 -1 Reach

1 3 Tampa Bay Eric Berry FS Tennessee P4Grab +1 Value

1 4 Washington Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State P2Grab +0 Value

1 5 Kansas City Rolando McClain ILB Alabama P3Grab -1 Reach

1 6 Seattle Joe Haden CB Florida P4Grab +1 Value

1 7 Cleveland Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame P1 -5 Reach

1 8 Oakland Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa P2 -2 Reach

1 9 Buffalo Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma P2Grab -7 Reach

1 10 Denver Mike Iupati OG Idaho P3R -5 Reach

1 11 Jacksonville Dez Bryant WRF Oklahoma State P3 +2 Value

1 12 Miami Dan Williams DT34 Tennessee P2 -5 Reach

1 13 San Francisco C.J. Spiller RBC Clemson P3Grab +6 Value

1 14 Seattle Derrick Morgan DE43 Georgia Tech P3Grab +6 Value

1 15 NY Giants Earl Thomas FS Texas P3 +2 Value

1 16 Tennessee Carlos Dunlap DE43 Florida P1 +5 Value

1 17 San Francisco Taylor Mays SS USC P4Grab -5 Reach

1 18 Pittsburgh Anthony Davis OG Rutgers P3 +0 Value

1 19 Atlanta Brandon Graham DE43 Michigan P2 -1 Reach

1 20 Houston Jonathan Dwyer RBF Georgia Tech P3 -1 Reach

1 21 Cincinnati Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma P1Grab -14 Reach

1 22 New England Jared Odrick DE34 Penn State P2 -2 Reach

1 23 Green Bay Charles Brown OT USC P1Grab -8 Reach

1 24 Philadelphia Corey Wootton DE43 Northwestern P1Grab -10 Reach

1 25 Baltimore Devin McCourty CB Rutgers P2 +0 Value

1 26 Arizona Ricky Sapp OLB34 Clemson P3 +3 Value

1 27 Dallas Bruce Campbell OT Maryland P3 +0 Value

1 28 San Diego Trent Williams OT Oklahoma P3O +14 Value

1 29 NY Jets Patrick Robinson CB Florida State P2 -4 Reach

1 30 Minnesota Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma P2 -11 Reach

1 31 Indianapolis Mike Johnson OG Alabama P3Grab -31 Reach

1 32 New Orleans Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona P4Grab -36 Reach

2 33 St Louis Everson Griffen DE43 USC P1Grab +5 Value

2 34 Detroit Jason Pierre-Paul DE43 South Florida P2 +5 Value

2 35 Tampa Bay Brian Price DT43 UCLA P1 +3 Value

2 36 Kansas City Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida P3 -4 Reach

2 37 Washington Colt McCoy QB Texas P1 -10 Reach

2 38 Cleveland Golden Tate WRF Notre Dame P3O +19 Value

2 39 Oakland Vladimir Ducasse OG Massachusetts P1 -11 Reach

2 40 Seattle Jahvid Best RBC California P3Grab +14 Value

2 41 Buffalo ?

 

Scenario #2 - Bills Trade With JAX

Round Pick Team Selection Psn School CRI Delta ReachValue

1 1 St Louis Ndamukong Suh DT43 Nebraska P4Grab +0 Value

1 2 Detroit Gerald McCoy DT43 Oklahoma P1 -1 Reach

1 3 Tampa Bay Eric Berry FS Tennessee P4Grab +1 Value

1 4 Washington Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State P2Grab +0 Value

1 5 Kansas City Rolando McClain ILB Alabama P3Grab -1 Reach

1 6 Seattle Joe Haden CB Florida P4Grab +1 Value

1 7 Cleveland Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame P1 -5 Reach

1 8 Oakland Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa P2 -2 Reach

1 9 Jacksonville Dez Bryant WRF Oklahoma State P3 +0 Value

1 10 Denver Mike Iupati OG Idaho P3R -5 Reach

1 11 Buffalo Anthony Davis OT Rutgers P1 -7 Reach

1 12 Miami Dan Williams DT34 Tennessee P2 -5 Reach

1 13 San Francisco C.J. Spiller RBC Clemson P3Grab +6 Value

1 14 Seattle Derrick Morgan DE43 Georgia Tech P3Grab +6 Value

1 15 NY Giants Earl Thomas FS Texas P3 +2 Value

1 16 Tennessee Carlos Dunlap DE43 Florida P1 +5 Value

1 17 San Francisco Taylor Mays SS USC P4Grab -5 Reach

1 18 Pittsburgh Trent Williams OT Oklahoma P4 +4 Value

1 19 Atlanta Brandon Graham DE43 Michigan P2 -1 Reach

1 20 Houston Jonathan Dwyer RBF Georgia Tech P3 -1 Reach

1 21 Cincinnati Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma P1Grab -14 Reach

1 22 New England Jared Odrick DE34 Penn State P2 -2 Reach

1 23 Green Bay Charles Brown OT USC P1Grab -8 Reach

1 24 Philadelphia Corey Wootton DE43 Northwestern P1Grab -10 Reach

1 25 Baltimore Devin McCourty CB Rutgers P2 +0 Value

1 26 Arizona Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma P3 +10 Value

1 27 Dallas Bruce Campbell OT Maryland P3 +0 Value

1 28 San Diego Brandon Spikes ILB Florida P3R -11 Reach

1 29 NY Jets Patrick Robinson CB Florida State P2 -4 Reach

1 30 Minnesota Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma P2 -11 Reach

1 31 Indianapolis Mike Johnson OG Alabama P3Grab -31 Reach

1 32 New Orleans Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona P4Grab -36 Reach

2 33 St Louis Everson Griffen DE43 USC P1Grab +5 Value

2 34 Detroit Ricky Sapp DE43 Clemson P2 +11 Value

2 35 Tampa Bay Brian Price DT43 UCLA P1 +3 Value

2 36 Kansas City Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida P3 -4 Reach

2 37 Washington Colt McCoy QB Texas P1 -10 Reach

2 38 Cleveland Golden Tate WRF Notre Dame P3O +19 Value

2 39 Oakland Vladimir Ducasse OG Massachusetts P1 -11 Reach

2 40 Seattle Jahvid Best RBC California P3Grab +14 Value

2 41 Buffalo ?

 

What I learned by doing this is that essentially the same players are available at #41 now; the only difference is that in Scenario #1 you have Bradford, and Scenario #2 Bradford falls to Arizona and you have Anthony Davis and an extra #50 pick.

 

By the Way, You're on the Clock.

[Astrobot]

I think what we'll see is that regardless of who we take in the first, Mount Cody is a good choice in the second. I'll predict Cody and Capers will be 1 and 2 if you took Bradford, and if you already took your OT with Davis, you'll go Cody and ILB.

[BillsGuyInMalta]

Mount Cody sliding reminds me a lot of when Marcus McNeil slid into the 2nd a few years ago. Teams are going to feel incredibly foolish for passing him up.

[Tsaikotic]

are we picking 2 from the OT Davis option?...maybe add a third box for 2a and 2b for trade w/jax ppl...just a thought

[Tsaikotic]

errggg...won't let me pick..keeps giving me an error message..lol

[Tsaikotic]

ok nvm on my first post here..I noticed that in this thread you have us trading with jax and getting the #50 while in the other thread you have us trading with Houston at #20 and the #50 and the jax option has the #75 a 3rd round pick...so looks like you mixed the two together lol...so since the jax #11 and 3rd round #75 actually won in the other thread I assume that's what you really wanted to go with here...so I'll just pick 1 hehe.

[billsfaningeneseo]

I think what we'll see is that regardless of who we take in the first, Mount Cody is a good choice in the second. I'll predict Cody and Capers will be 1 and 2 if you took Bradford, and if you already took your OT with Davis, you'll go Cody and ILB.

 

 

I think you nailed it. This is exactly what I voted for.

[Tsaikotic]

well..I'm voting for Cody DT but this is what I keep getting..:

 

"Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

The error returned was:

 

You did not choose a poll choice to vote against. Please go back and ensure you click on one of the radio buttons next to the choice you wish to vote for"

[thebandit27]

Scenario #2 is extremely far fetched for a lot of reasons:

 

1) Bradford will go in the top 10. St. Louis is talking about him at #1, Washington at #4, Seattle at #6, there's also Cleveland at #7 and Buffalo at #9.

 

2) Jacksonville doesn't own the #50 pick to trade. That pick belongs to Kansas City (from Atlanta for the Tony Gonzalez trade). Yet and still, Jacksonville doesn't have a 2nd round pick at all. They would have to trade their 3rd round pick. Which brings me to my next point...

 

3) There's no way Buffalo picks up an extra 2nd round pick by moving down 2 spots. No way. Under the old trade chart (which started at 3,000 pts for the #1 overall pick), that might have been possible. The new trade chart, which starts at 1,000 pts for the #1 pick, values the move from 9 to 11 as being worth anywhere from a late 3rd to early 4th round pick. For Jacksonville--a team that needs a strong draft--to give up a 3rd round pick, when they already lack a 2nd round pick, would be crazy IMO.

 

4) If Cody does last until the 2nd round, Buffalo would still have to move up to get him. With St. Louis, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Kansas City, Oakland, and Seattle (all of whom have a need at DT) picking in front of Buffalo, even assuming that 2 of those teams take McCoy and Suh in the 1st, there's still a very good chance he's gone by the time pick #41 comes up.

 

As I said, just seems very, very far fetched.

[manbeast]

are we picking 2 from the OT Davis option?...maybe add a third box for 2a and 2b for trade w/jax ppl...just a thought

It would be a third unless they really wanted to move up and we were reluctant to move down.

[Ghost of Rob Johnson]

It would be a third unless they really wanted to move up and we were reluctant to move down.

I think when the original post came out it was a 3rd from Jax, may just be a typo.

[Astrobot]

We're taking DT Terrence Cody from Alabama with our 2nd rounder in both scenarios (Bradford/Cody and Davis/Cody), and ...Mea Culpa. Buffalo gets the #75 3rd rounder for the trade down to #11, not #50. That's Round 3---our #72 pick and JAX's #75. You'll see those 2 picks soon!

 

Davis/Cody will be a lot of wings. Possibly a shortage in Buffalo.

 

Astro

[BillsGuyInMalta]

We're taking DT Terrence Cody from Alabama with our 2nd rounder in both scenarios (Bradford/Cody and Davis/Cody), and ...Mea Culpa. Buffalo gets the #75 3rd rounder for the trade down to #11, not #50. That's Round 3---our #72 pick and JAX's #75. You'll see those 2 picks soon!

 

Davis/Cody will be a lot of wings. Possibly a shortage in Buffalo.

 

Astro

 

Astro,

 

What info can you pass along to a fellow draft-whore on Anthony Davis? The physical tools seem very impressive but I've seen his motivation questioned quite a bit.