KD in CA Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Make sure to send a thank you note to the Obama Administration for refusing to shut down the conduits to the Lake Mighigan. I guess the union bosses told him 'no'.
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2010 Author Posted February 17, 2010 Make sure to send a thank you note to the Obama Administration for refusing to shut down the conduits to the Lake Mighigan. I guess the union bosses told him 'no'. Doesn't matter if they shut down... I kind of hope they do! They can shut the Seaway down too while they are at it! For years I have been saying we shouldn't be wasting as much water as we do... I will still be here doing what I do outside of that! Also...There are really no unions on river transportation (barge ops). As far as I know, everything is non-union. BTW, it would be a worse ecological disaster if they do close it down... Then some jumping fish have on an artificially created Great Lakes' fishery (especially the coho salmon). These Asian fish are the most eaten fish in the world over all other fish... Except in America. There is an opportunity for great economic/commercial gain out of all this...
KD in CA Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Also...There are really no unions on river transportation (barge ops). As far as I know, everything is non-union. Well that explains why Obama isn't doing anything to help. These Asian fish are the most eaten fish in the world over all other fish... Except in America. There is an opportunity for great economic/commercial gain out of all this... Than what's the big deal? You start a new thread about this every 3d day.
DC Tom Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Tally-ho! Just last night they had an episode of "Life After People" on (the History Channel, I think, where there motto now seems to be "bringing you history before it happens") and they were talking about the asian carp invading the Great Lakes after the locks weren't maintained for a few years. I specifically thought of you. Specifically, I thought, "!@#$ that !@#$in' EII for not maintaining the locks". But the good news is, the Great Lakes lamprey population should take care of them easily.
DC Tom Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Than what's the big deal? You start a new thread about this every 3d day. He's so obsessed, you'd think there was an asian carp joke on Family Guy last week or something...
KD in CA Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Just last night they had an episode of "Life After People" on (the History Channel, I think, where there motto now seems to be "bringing you history before it happens") and they were talking about the asian carp invading the Great Lakes after the locks weren't maintained for a few years. I specifically thought of you. Specifically, I thought, "!@#$ that !@#$in' EII for not maintaining the locks". But the good news is, the Great Lakes lamprey population should take care of them easily. Does that happen before or after EII's screw up floods Chicago, causing the Sears tower to rust and collapse?
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Asian Carp are edible? Well I guess even a VW bug is edible if you marinate it long enough.
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2010 Author Posted February 17, 2010 Than what's the big deal? You start a new thread about this every 3d day. I am excited! I have been waiting 20 years for change! I was hoping I was not retired. These are exciting times for tech and other things!
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 17, 2010 Author Posted February 17, 2010 But the good news is, the Great Lakes lamprey population should take care of them easily. Actually... They should just get rid of the coho salmon they brought in during the 1960's to control the alewives and switch to perch, steelhead, walleye, and here on the river: river sturgeon... There would be no carp problem at all.
Frit0 Bandit0 Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Let's fish those Asian Carp and feed the hungry....There must be someway to use that resource
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2010 Author Posted February 18, 2010 Let's fish those Asian Carp and feed the hungry....There must be someway to use that resource There is. The thing is people hate change. These fish have 70% more Omega 3 than any other fish... There is so much they can do with them from. Isn't the easiest way to harm an environment is by overfishing? The problem is these fish are considered "rough" and Americans/Canadians are way too picky. In Europe they are considered to be a fun sport fish. There is a certain amount of racism in this country when it comes to carp... Dating back to the 1920's. Anyway... These fish need approx 60 miles of swift flowing river with ample shallow back water to spawn effectively... And over 70 degree water... There are only 22 such tribs on the American side of the lakes... And who knows if any can enable spawning?? These fish have been found in Lake Erie for about 10 years now... They aren't sustaining or seem to be spawning. Even on the Missouri river, populations have been crashing. There are so many things that we can do to turn "lemons" into "lemonade." I do AGREE that the locks need to open less frequently... I have been saying that for years that we waste way too much water for one little bassboat. A schedule would be nice like when I worked at the Black Rock Lock: up on the 1/2 hour and down on the hour. Every time the pit is dumped the lake loses up to 2 million gallons of water. Sometimes a bassboat will ring the buzzer, we lock them... Then the minute they leave, somebody else rings again... We do this all summer long up to 60 dumpings a day. Some fisherman like to go up alone so as not to disclose where their fishing sites are... These practices have to stop.
Frit0 Bandit0 Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 There is. The thing is people hate change. These fish have 70% more Omega 3 than any other fish... There is so much they can do with them from. Isn't the easiest way to harm an environment is by overfishing? The problem is these fish are considered "rough" and Americans/Canadians are way too picky. In Europe they are considered to be a fun sport fish. There is a certain amount of racism in this country when it comes to carp... Dating back to the 1920's. Anyway... These fish need approx 60 miles of swift flowing river wit ample shallow back water to spawn effectively... And over 70 degree water... There are only 22 such tribs on the American side of the lakes... And who knows if any can enable spawning?? These fish have been found in Lake Erie for about 10 years now... They aren't sustaining or seem to be spawning. Even on the Missouri river, populations have been crashing. There are so many things that we can do to turn "lemons" into "lemonade." I do AGREE that the locks need to open less frequently... I have been saying that for years that we waste way too much water for one little bassboat. A schedule would be nice like when I worked at the Black Rock Lock: up on the 1/2 and down on the hour. Eveery time the pit is dumped the lake loses up to 2 million gallons of water. Sometimes a bassboat will ring the buzzer, we lock them... Then the minute they leave, somebody else rings again... Some fisherman like to go up alone so as not to disclose where their fishing sites are... These practices have to stop. What! Isn't that environmentally unfriendly in a profound way?
Frit0 Bandit0 Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 There is. The thing is people hate change. These fish have 70% more Omega 3 than any other fish... There is so much they can do with them from. Isn't the easiest way to harm an environment is by overfishing? The problem is these fish are considered "rough" and Americans/Canadians are way too picky. In Europe they are considered to be a fun sport fish. There is a certain amount of racism in this country when it comes to carp... Dating back to the 1920's. Anyway... These fish need approx 60 miles of swift flowing river with ample shallow back water to spawn effectively... And over 70 degree water... There are only 22 such tribs on the American side of the lakes... And who knows if any can enable spawning?? These fish have been found in Lake Erie for about 10 years now... They aren't sustaining or seem to be spawning. Even on the Missouri river, populations have been crashing. There are so many things that we can do to turn "lemons" into "lemonade." I do AGREE that the locks need to open less frequently... I have been saying that for years that we waste way too much water for one little bassboat. A schedule would be nice like when I worked at the Black Rock Lock: up on the 1/2 hour and down on the hour. Every time the pit is dumped the lake loses up to 2 million gallons of water. Sometimes a bassboat will ring the buzzer, we lock them... Then the minute they leave, somebody else rings again... We do this all summer long up to 60 dumpings a day. Some fisherman like to go up alone so as not to disclose where their fishing sites are... These practices have to stop. If that's true I'll eat those !@#$ers...and I hate fish, except for Tuna, Halibut, Mahi Mahi and Ms Paul's fish sticks
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2010 Author Posted February 18, 2010 What! Isn't that environmentally unfriendly in a profound way? YES! Very... I have been saying it for years. Yet, if you close it off totally... It would be like going in your basement and unplugging your sump pump. It is like flushing a toilet. It is okay to flush it, it is actually good... Get pollution out of the lake where it can be treated... Help eliminate bacteria on the beaches in the summer. But why would you want to be flushing it all the time? Indiana sides with Illinois becuase they know all sides of the mission... It would greatly impact them. There are other ways the fish can get to lake even if the locks close. For years now and for the life of me, I do not know why the they didn't resolve the issue down river BELOW Lockport, Ill. That lock has a drop of 40 feet and is below the "Y" in the river. Instead they put the electric fence ABOVE Lockport... Still below the "Y" though... Your head would spin if I told you all the sh*t that goes on!
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2010 Author Posted February 18, 2010 If that's true I'll eat those !@#$ers...and I hate fish, except for Tuna, Halibut, Mahi Mahi and Ms Paul's fish sticks They are very slippery and oily. When I go to boat opertors school, in Peoria, for training and refresher courses... 30-40 pound fish jump out right into the boat... You pick them up and throw them back. EDIT: Oh, and no Hg either. Contrary to belief, these fish are not bottom feeders. They are filter feeders and the silver carp are near the top of the water... That is why the jump out when the propulsion of the motor agitates them.
Nanker Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 There is. The thing is people hate change. These fish have 70% more Omega 3 than any other fish... There is so much they can do with them from. Isn't the easiest way to harm an environment is by overfishing? The problem is these fish are considered "rough" and Americans/Canadians are way too picky. In Europe they are considered to be a fun sport fish. There is a certain amount of racism in this country when it comes to carp... Dating back to the 1920's. Anyway... These fish need approx 60 miles of swift flowing river with ample shallow back water to spawn effectively... And over 70 degree water... There are only 22 such tribs on the American side of the lakes... And who knows if any can enable spawning?? These fish have been found in Lake Erie for about 10 years now... They aren't sustaining or seem to be spawning. Even on the Missouri river, populations have been crashing. There are so many things that we can do to turn "lemons" into "lemonade." I do AGREE that the locks need to open less frequently... I have been saying that for years that we waste way too much water for one little bassboat. A schedule would be nice like when I worked at the Black Rock Lock: up on the 1/2 hour and down on the hour. Every time the pit is dumped the lake loses up to 2 million gallons of water. Sometimes a bassboat will ring the buzzer, we lock them... Then the minute they leave, somebody else rings again... We do this all summer long up to 60 dumpings a day. Some fisherman like to go up alone so as not to disclose where their fishing sites are... These practices have to stop. That's priceless. I'm tempted to put it into my sig line.
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 18, 2010 Author Posted February 18, 2010 That's priceless. I'm tempted to put it into my sig line. Do it. It is the God's honest truth. On another note... The first settlers in the west/Oregon tended to starve. This totally befuddled the native population that thought they were in the land of plenty. You know those first settlers wouldn't eat salmon becuase it was an ugly reddish color and very boney... And rough. Carp is a good eating fish, no matter what Chef says about stereotypes. Just look at a bit of Americana in Omaha: Joe Tess Place... Established in 1930. Joe Tess Place So go ahead... Sig it all you want!
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