Bill from NYC Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 scroll down just a bit It is right after he mentions Maybin in a 3/4. >>>>> It may not mean a whole lot but Indianapolis president Bill Polian put the blame for the Colts’ upset Super Bowl loss squarely on the shoulders of the offensive line.<<<<< Are you reading this ICE? Great qb or not, football teams need blocking. The Bills will lose until they are a big, strong team that can block, stop the run and rush the passer. A flashy new first round quarterback will in all probability NOT solve our problems. Marv and Dick are thankfully gone. It is time to build a team that opponents fear.
thebandit27 Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 scroll down just a bit It is right after he mentions Maybin in a 3/4. >>>>> It may not mean a whole lot but Indianapolis president Bill Polian put the blame for the Colts’ upset Super Bowl loss squarely on the shoulders of the offensive line.<<<<< Are you reading this ICE? Great qb or not, football teams need blocking. The Bills will lose until they are a big, strong team that can block, stop the run and rush the passer. A flashy new first round quarterback will in all probability NOT solve our problems. Marv and Dick are thankfully gone. It is time to build a team that opponents fear. It's called deflecting criticism from your all-world QB, Bill. The Colts' OL played a great game. The team ran for over 6 yards per carry and Manning was never even knocked down. They lost because Manning threw a bad interception at a crucual time, and then failed to make plays at the end of the game, so he subsequently came under fire, and Polian responded by shifting the blame to the OL. You could also argue that they lost because of play calling...how could you not run the ball more when you're gashing your opponent for that many yards consistently? In fact, using this Superbowl would only serve to prove ICE's point. The better OL on Feb. 7th, 2010 belonged to the Colts (as Brees was sacked once, knocked down several times, and NO ran for less than 3 yards per carry), but the better QB that day played for New Orleans, and they won the game.
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...p;#entry1754842
DarthICE Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 scroll down just a bit It is right after he mentions Maybin in a 3/4. >>>>> It may not mean a whole lot but Indianapolis president Bill Polian put the blame for the Colts’ upset Super Bowl loss squarely on the shoulders of the offensive line.<<<<< Are you reading this ICE? Great qb or not, football teams need blocking. The Bills will lose until they are a big, strong team that can block, stop the run and rush the passer. A flashy new first round quarterback will in all probability NOT solve our problems. Marv and Dick are thankfully gone. It is time to build a team that opponents fear. Yeah I read it and I still say its all about the QB. Vikings have a great OL and didn't do **** till farve got there. I don't give a damn if we have the best OL EVER, Trent Edwards nor anyother of the scrubs on this team are going to get us to the superbowl. Hell even Gailey gets it where he said it's a QUARTERBACK driven league.
DarthICE Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 It's called deflecting criticism from your all-world QB, Bill. The Colts' OL played a great game. The team ran for over 6 yards per carry and Manning was never even knocked down. They lost because Manning threw a bad interception at a crucual time, and then failed to make plays at the end of the game, so he subsequently came under fire, and Polian responded by shifting the blame to the OL. You could also argue that they lost because of play calling...how could you not run the ball more when you're gashing your opponent for that many yards consistently? In fact, using this Superbowl would only serve to prove ICE's point. The better OL on Feb. 7th, 2010 belonged to the Colts (as Brees was sacked once, knocked down several times, and NO ran for less than 3 yards per carry), but the better QB that day played for New Orleans, and they won the game. thank you, nice to see someone else gets it. MANNING !@#$ed up. No way around it. So what? he is still the best in the game and has a ring. He had a bad day, it happens. But to put the blame on their OL instead of where it belongs is pure chicken **** by Polian
Fan in San Diego Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 If Manning doesn't throw the pick, they would have tied the game. Then it would be a coin flip of who wins the game.
wide_right Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 If Manning doesn't throw the pick, they would have tied the game. Then it would be a coin flip of who wins the game. reggie wayne seemed off his game that day had that deer in headlights look
stinky finger Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Hell even Gailey gets it where he said it's a QUARTERBACK driven league. Provided he has the OL to compliment. It's ALL about the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball.
Alaska Darin Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 I love the "all or nothing" mentality everyone seems to have. It's not "all about" anything in a team sport. The Super Bowl was won by the team with the 2nd round pick free agent QB and the team that made the bigger plays in each phase of the game. You have to have good linemen who play cohesively, a good/great QB, talented skill position players who don't make mistakes and a coaching staff that understands its team and can put them into the best position to succeed. It doesn't matter what position the BILLS draft in the first round - that player has to live up to his slot.
Adam Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 It's called deflecting criticism from your all-world QB, Bill. The Colts' OL played a great game. The team ran for over 6 yards per carry and Manning was never even knocked down. They lost because Manning threw a bad interception at a crucual time, and then failed to make plays at the end of the game, so he subsequently came under fire, and Polian responded by shifting the blame to the OL. You could also argue that they lost because of play calling...how could you not run the ball more when you're gashing your opponent for that many yards consistently? In fact, using this Superbowl would only serve to prove ICE's point. The better OL on Feb. 7th, 2010 belonged to the Colts (as Brees was sacked once, knocked down several times, and NO ran for less than 3 yards per carry), but the better QB that day played for New Orleans, and they won the game. The All-world QB who actually had a pretty good game, despite the lack of blocking. turnovers happen late in games when a team is behind.
Mr. WEO Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 How is this on the O-line?? How about a "great" defense that could not get off the field for over an hour?? Polian's a kook.
Alaska Darin Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 How is this on the O-line?? How about a "great" defense that could not get off the field for over an hour?? Polian's a kook. Yeah, what does that guy know about football?
Stussy109 Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 while I agree with building from the lines out...Simply believing you can win with having a monster o-line with no QB at the helm is like believing you could get through the snowmageddon in your souped up hummer with your 95 yr old grandmother driving. You need someone steering the ship that is competent enough to make all the other parts effective.
stinky finger Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 while I agree with building from the lines out...Simply believing you can win with having a monster o-line with no QB at the helm is like believing you could get through the snowmageddon in your souped up hummer with your 95 yr old grandmother driving. You need someone steering the ship that is competent enough to make all the other parts effective. True, but it has to begin with OL IMO. Regardless who may be taking the snaps.
DarthICE Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 True, but it has to begin with OL IMO. Regardless who may be taking the snaps. Its about the QB these days.
Max997 Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Indy is clearly devastated by that loss, how great is that at some point you would think they would realize that they can win and be a better team with a more balanced attack and without all that ridiculous crap Manning does...which as Madden always said was all fluff anyway which begs the question, if it was always all fluff and everyone knew it why do it
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Yeah, what does that guy know about football? He's 1 for 5, not exactly a stellar record. Getting there is a major accomplishment but no one remembers you "getting there". Unless you're the Bills and you happen to lose four in a row.
BuffaloBill Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 I would have though d-line was bigger issue - hard for Manning and o-line to do much when they spent a nearly all of the 2Q on the sidelines then did not get the ball to start 2H due to special teams miscue.
stinky finger Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Its about the QB these days. You're right. !@#$ the OL. Who needs it.
Doc Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 The Colts lost because Freeney and Wayne weren't 100%, the Saints made a risky gamble on the insides kick and luckily recovered it, and the Colts made the stupid decision to kick a 51-yard FG with a 42-year old kicker. The INT just sealed the deal, because I didn't get the sense that Manning/the Colts' offense would have sealed the deal even if he wasn't picked.
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