Pirate Angel Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Owens- Id rather see Johnson, hardy, bust there a** than an aging superstar play half a**ed, Maybe low ball him an offer and see if anyone really wants him out there. Ryan Denny- May provide some decent depth to LDE in the 3-4 Josh Reed - was a decent slot when we knew what a passing game was Stupar- not bad TE depth, Pre- season allstar Brian Scott - not a bad SS, we most likelyneed him Keith Ellison- not sure he f,its the 3-4, hopefully he is one so we dont have the possibility of him starting again Jonathan Scott- he got some experiance last year, it was sometimes an ugly experiance. surely we can do better Schouman- might be an odd man out at TE youboty- If hes happy competing for the Dimeback spot sure kendell Simmons- tuff call hes had some bad injuries but he can still play a good backup when healthy Chris draft - a good mid season signing to our depleted roster, Im not positive hes played in the 3-4 if he has sure where going to need some help Seth Mckinny- old and fragile Incognito I would like to see Incognito resigned, I know he is a head case, maybe him being cut by the Rams was a wake up call I didnt think he was to out of control when he got here. Hes not great but hes not bad either. With Woods leg the RG spot may be a question mark, If wood loses some mobility IMO it would be best to slide him to center (His College pos.) and slide Butler back to RG and have him and Incognito compete for the starting Role. Butler is to Fragile to be relied on at RT, He and Incognito would be a good competition, If Brad wins and gets hurt Richie slides in If Richie starts and becomes a head case sit him and Brad comes in, Hartgarner can play LG and C and would provide some good depth, behind wood and Levitre. Meredith and Bell compete for RT still a big hole at LT thats not going away over night. Jauron really ambushed this unit last offseason- it cant get that ugly again.
jj____ Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 i'd say hold on to stupar, both scotts, schouman, youtboty, draft, and icognito
bkc Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Owens- Id rather see Johnson, hardy, bust there a** than an aging superstar play half a**ed, Maybe low ball him an offer and see if anyone really wants him out there. Ryan Denny- May provide some decent depth to LDE in the 3-4 Josh Reed - was a decent slot when we knew what a passing game was Stupar- not bad TE depth, Pre- season allstar Brian Scott - not a bad SS, we most likelyneed him Keith Ellison- not sure he f,its the 3-4, hopefully he is one so we dont have the possibility of him starting again Jonathan Scott- he got some experiance last year, it was sometimes an ugly experiance. surely we can do better Schouman- might be an odd man out at TE youboty- If hes happy competing for the Dimeback spot sure kendell Simmons- tuff call hes had some bad injuries but he can still play a good backup when healthy Chris draft - a good mid season signing to our depleted roster, Im not positive hes played in the 3-4 if he has sure where going to need some help Seth Mckinny- old and fragile Incognito I would like to see Incognito resigned, I know he is a head case, maybe him being cut by the Rams was a wake up call I didnt think he was to out of control when he got here. Hes not great but hes not bad either. With Woods leg the RG spot may be a question mark, If wood loses some mobility IMO it would be best to slide him to center (His College pos.) and slide Butler back to RG and have him and Incognito compete for the starting Role. Butler is to Fragile to be relied on at RT, He and Incognito would be a good competition, If Brad wins and gets hurt Richie slides in If Richie starts and becomes a head case sit him and Brad comes in, Hartgarner can play LG and C and would provide some good depth, behind wood and Levitre. Meredith and Bell compete for RT still a big hole at LT thats not going away over night. Jauron really ambushed this unit last offseason- it cant get that ugly again. incognito, scott and youboty no to reed I don't think he got seperation on a db in his entire career
Pirate Angel Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 incognito, scott and youbotyno to reed I don't think he got seperation on a db in his entire career youre probably right, Steve Johnson deserves a shot there
DanInUticaTampa Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 I wouldn't mind youboty for depth. He has shown he can make some big hits. But he can never be a starter with his injury nonesense. Even if Incognito isn't an answer to our Oline, we need him at the very least for depth purposes. I like Bryan scott. It is hard to tell where everyone fits on defense and whether we need him or not though. Same with draft. Reed would be nice to keep. He is a vet with skills our other recievers don't have. IE Blocking.
Stussy109 Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I think incognito younoty and scott will be RFA's. Incognito i'm almost sure of.
billsfan89 Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 InCognito and Simmions to be the backup guards. Try to resign Owens on a reasonable deal but he isn't a must as we can likely get Chris Chambers if he doesn't want to come back. As for Josh Reed I say let him walk the playing time can be given to Hardy and Stevie J. As for the rest the only guy I would resign is Brian Scott we need the depth for the secondary.
Aplusfool Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 youre probably right, Steve Johnson deserves a shot there Why ? What has he done to show that he deserves this shot. He did compete in training camp, practice right. ? What makes him so good that in 2 years he still can not run routes, block, get off the inactive list or play when he is active. Please don't tell me he looked good in pre-season going against the other teams future cuts. I have no problem with him if he turns out to be that special someone, but if he can't beat the competition then he deserves his pine riding fate. I have a feeling the new regime will give everyone a fair shot, let the pieces fall where they may.
BillyBaroo Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I wouldn't mind youboty for depth. He has shown he can make some big hits. But he can never be a starter with his injury nonesense. Even if Incognito isn't an answer to our Oline, we need him at the very least for depth purposes. I like Bryan scott. It is hard to tell where everyone fits on defense and whether we need him or not though. Same with draft. Reed would be nice to keep. He is a vet with skills our other recievers don't have. IE Blocking. Scott is the only one I like. Youbouty for depth? Does he even know how to tackle?
ChanOverChin Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Incognito is a very good player. Resign him I'd resign Owens (who could have a big year with Gailey calling the plays and making him the go-to guy). Resign him for no more than $3M/yr. If the Bills trade for McNabb there could be a problem. Resign B. Scott. He has good size and is a very physical SS. He also covers the bigger TEs well. I'd release Reed, Denney, Stupar, Simmons, Ellison, and McKinney. Keep Youboty, Schouman, and Draft for depth.
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Denney and Ellison are big-time GONE. I wouldn't be surprised if someone gives Incognito a fairly large contract. We have the cap room and I'd do it as insurance against Wood's injury.
JPS Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Owens and Incognito are the only guys who could get jobs with teams other than the Bills. The rest....move on.
billsevans Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Owens- Agree offer no more than 3 mil. Reed- Will probably get picked up can be solid possession guy Schouman- Bye bye Incognito- I like the tough mentality he brings Denney- Has put in solid time in Buffalo, all depends on Schobel's decision Youboty- Cut him, never turned out, can find some better in free agency
VABills Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Yeah let's keep all these guys who have been part of a losing francise. They are primarily backups on one of the worst teams in the NFL, that should tell you all you need to know.
BB-Gun Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Owens- Id rather see Johnson, hardy, bust there a** than an aging superstar play half a**ed, Maybe low ball him an offer and see if anyone really wants him out there. Ryan Denny- May provide some decent depth to LDE in the 3-4 Josh Reed - was a decent slot when we knew what a passing game was Stupar- not bad TE depth, Pre- season allstar Brian Scott - not a bad SS, we most likelyneed him Keith Ellison- not sure he f,its the 3-4, hopefully he is one so we dont have the possibility of him starting again Jonathan Scott- he got some experiance last year, it was sometimes an ugly experiance. surely we can do better Schouman- might be an odd man out at TE youboty- If hes happy competing for the Dimeback spot sure kendell Simmons- tuff call hes had some bad injuries but he can still play a good backup when healthy Chris draft - a good mid season signing to our depleted roster, Im not positive hes played in the 3-4 if he has sure where going to need some help Seth Mckinny- old and fragile Incognito I would like to see Incognito resigned, I know he is a head case, maybe him being cut by the Rams was a wake up call I didnt think he was to out of control when he got here. Hes not great but hes not bad either. With Woods leg the RG spot may be a question mark, If wood loses some mobility IMO it would be best to slide him to center (His College pos.) and slide Butler back to RG and have him and Incognito compete for the starting Role. Butler is to Fragile to be relied on at RT, He and Incognito would be a good competition, If Brad wins and gets hurt Richie slides in If Richie starts and becomes a head case sit him and Brad comes in, Hartgarner can play LG and C and would provide some good depth, behind wood and Levitre. Meredith and Bell compete for RT still a big hole at LT thats not going away over night. Jauron really ambushed this unit last offseason- it cant get that ugly again. Owens - Hardy and Johnson needs a chance to play Ryan Denny - don't care Keith Ellison - good backup Josh Reed - if he stays, needs to be strictly slot receiver Stupar - crowded position, can he still be on Practice team? Schouman - if he is healthy, can compete for start youboty - he would be a good dime and backup at corners kendell simmons - not healthy Chris Draft - bye bye McKinney - needs to retire Incognito - compete for starting spot at guard and center
PushthePile Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I'd definately keep Schouman, Incognito, and Bryan Scott. The rest are dependant on what direction the team plans on moving in free agency and the draft. Schouman really looked like a player in his 2 games last year. I know 2 games are only 2 games, but it was enough to show he can contribute. I liked Nelson's play as well. It's possible that the Bills have a couple of really good young TEs on the roster right now. That would be 2 more than we have seen over the last decade. Incognito is a slightly above average, veteran, offensive guard. No reason to let him go. 1. Who knows how Wood will perform next year. 2. Keeping Incognito allows flexibility for different player combinations. Bryan Scott is just a football player. He reminds me of Fred Jackson. The Bills have used Scott in a handful of ways and he always goes about his task in a professional manner. He is very flexible and makes plays where ever he is lined up. I hope he is rewarded this offseason. This new staff could really help themselves by identifying the value of guys like Bryan Scott and George Wilson.
bananathumb Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I'd definately keep Schouman, Incognito, and Bryan Scott. The rest are dependant on what direction the team plans on moving in free agency and the draft. Schouman really looked like a player in his 2 games last year. I know 2 games are only 2 games, but it was enough to show he can contribute. I liked Nelson's play as well. It's possible that the Bills have a couple of really good young TEs on the roster right now. That would be 2 more than we have seen over the last decade. Incognito is a slightly above average, veteran, offensive guard. No reason to let him go. 1. Who knows how Wood will perform next year. 2. Keeping Incognito allows flexibility for different player combinations. Bryan Scott is just a football player. He reminds me of Fred Jackson. The Bills have used Scott in a handful of ways and he always goes about his task in a professional manner. He is very flexible and makes plays where ever he is lined up. I hope he is rewarded this offseason. This new staff could really help themselves by identifying the value of guys like Bryan Scott and George Wilson. Agreed with this about Scott. He is a player, unlike Whitner. Keep him (Scott) to play SS.
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