sharper802 Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Um are we switching to a 3-4? Then Suh isnt a fit for us. Don't let logic and reason play any role in the posts....
sharper802 Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 He's in my opinion a once in a decade player. All signs are pointing to the Rams taking a Bradford right now. What would it take to move up 7 spots? I'm not exactly sure. But you find a way to do it even if you have to over pay for him! If you want to get a lot better sooner rather then later you do whatever it takes to get this beast! If the good teams do anything on a routine basis it is never trade up, trade down when a willing partner(sap otherwise known as Marv Levy) can be found, and don't overpay for aging veterans.
JPS Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 WE HAVE TOO MANY HOLES TO TRADE UP. LOSER MOVE.
Shamrock Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 no way in hell it would take two number 1's it would take a lot though. and it would be worth every penny #1 is 3000points #9 is 1350points So to move to #1 you'd need another tonne of picks, most likely another 1st. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Does anyone know where you can find how teams value future year picks? I thought I read that it was valued as that of a pick a round below. So if you traded a first round pick in next years draft, they would value it as a 2nd round pick in this years draft. Example: Panthers trade their first this year for a 2nd round pick last year to draft Everette Brown. I was looking for some confirmation of this however and could not find anything. If this is the case, it would take this years 1st and 2nd, and next years 1st to move up to pick #2, and that might not even get it done. Then you have to sign him.
dtgolder Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 No way would Detroit pass up on Suh if they were lucky enough to get him. He's a PERFECT fit for their needs right now. It's not just what "the points" say, but you also have to factor in what the owner of the pick would demand for a trade...and Detroit would NOT trade the pick if they could get Suh. I don't think there's ANYTHING the Bills could offer that would let them draft Suh (short of doing the "trade all your draft choices" a la Ditka and Ricky Williams).
CarolinaBill Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 BINGO! right cause a dorsey (6-2, 315) is the same as Suh (6-4 305), plus dorsey, who has 1 spot, the dt in a 4-3, is exactly the same as suh, who has the body to play the end in a 3-4, or the DT in a 4-3. Awesome analysis guys
Boom Jam Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 right cause a dorsey (6-2, 315) is the same as Suh (6-4 305), plus dorsey, who has 1 spot, the dt in a 4-3, is exactly the same as suh, who has the body to play the end in a 3-4, or the DT in a 4-3. Awesome analysis guys Yeah, so sell the farm to move up to #2 overall in yet another rebuilding year? Hoping that a single DT will be the answer to all the franchise's woes? No thanks buddy.
Armchair GM Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 He's in my opinion a once in a decade player. All signs are pointing to the Rams taking a Bradford right now. What would it take to move up 7 spots? I'm not exactly sure. But you find a way to do it even if you have to over pay for him! If you want to get a lot better sooner rather then later you do whatever it takes to get this beast! If you were smart you would delete this post. You are comming accross as an ignorant fool who is completely unoriginal and regurgitates what he hears on ESPN. Don't get me wrong, I also beleive theat Suh is a beast, but like Bill says, we have far to many holes to fill and we need our draft picks over the next couple years. By the way, I didn't mean to be rude, just trying to spare you of a flaming.
Armchair GM Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Glenn Dorsey anyone? I'd rather see them make a play for Casey Hampton...
bobobonators Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 i don't have the value chart in front of my face, and I'm lazy to google it, but to move up that hight, you're going to have to give up our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd..AT LEAST. NO. THANKS.
CarolinaBill Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Yeah, so sell the farm to move up to #2 overall in yet another rebuilding year? Hoping that a single DT will be the answer to all the franchise's woes? No thanks buddy. well, you don't read too well do ya boy? If you did you would see that i did not agree with moving up to get Suh because it would be far too costly for us. what you guys were doing, which is the classic ignorant "we'll just compare him to the last big name DT we can think of", is wrong. Suh is the real deal, but with buffalo having so many needs, we shouldn't mortgage out future for 1 player. Learn to read, asshat.
evilbuffalobob Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Yet, I see Mr. Suh going to Detroit, but I still see Detroit in the *Detroit. *S h itt er *Sewer *Crapper *Bottom of the Crap House *Suk position One awesome f ing dude ain't everything. I am very content with simply having a 'Better Plan'. That means not trying to flatter some other team by copying them (like Limp Dick did by trying to copy Chicago). Like the stock market- by the time you mimic success- it's already too late. A full-time 3-4 worries me. I hope we have some sort of a passive-aggressive confusion WTF defense.
Boom Jam Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 well, you don't read too well do ya boy? If you did you would see that i did not agree with moving up to get Suh because it would be far too costly for us. what you guys were doing, which is the classic ignorant "we'll just compare him to the last big name DT we can think of", is wrong. Suh is the real deal, but with buffalo having so many needs, we shouldn't mortgage out future for 1 player. Learn to read, asshat. It's not that I need to learn to read, I didn't care to read your previous posts - in fact I didn't even know they were there. You responded to me bubba, not the other way around...
Bill Cowher Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 If you were smart you would delete this post. You are comming accross as an ignorant fool who is completely unoriginal and regurgitates what he hears on ESPN. Don't get me wrong, I also beleive theat Suh is a beast, but like Bill says, we have far to many holes to fill and we need our draft picks over the next couple years. By the way, I didn't mean to be rude, just trying to spare you of a flaming. i love your name. your a genius. i want to be like you.
Bring Back Kelly Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 What makes you feel that Suh would sign with us. Even if we traded up, We would still have to sign him to an affordable contract. We do not have the Dollars to sign a high-profile draft pick. I'd pick outside the top ten every draft. You get more bang for your buck. Sure you get a great player with a high pick, but the last time we picked someone at 4, was a HUGE bust. This should probably be one of the priciest first rounds ever.
Bill Cowher Posted February 13, 2010 Author Posted February 13, 2010 What makes you feel that Suh would sign with us. Even if we traded up, We would still have to sign him to an affordable contract. We do not have the Dollars to sign a high-profile draft pick. I'd pick outside the top ten every draft. You get more bang for your buck. Sure you get a great player with a high pick, but the last time we picked someone at 4, was a HUGE bust. This should probably be one of the priciest first rounds ever. saying the bills don't have the dollars to sign him may be the single most dumb thing I have ever read on here! The bills have plenty of money to sign whoever they want. What a REDONKULOUS statement. JOKE
Pilsner Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 He's in my opinion a once in a decade player. All signs are pointing to the Rams taking a Bradford right now. What would it take to move up 7 spots? I'm not exactly sure. But you find a way to do it even if you have to over pay for him! If you want to get a lot better sooner rather then later you do whatever it takes to get this beast! You are Bill Cowher. You've had successful (very successful drafts in your past coaching career with the Steelers) without selling the farm to trade up. You've done a great job in the past with the picks you were given. You never before traded your farm for such a trade up as you are now proposing. You stayed put with the picks you had and went to the Super Bowl. Now you are trying to veer away from a proven way of building a solid team. You are throwing away your team building principles. Please Bill Cowher, remember what worked for you before. Multiple intelligent well thought out picks. Not one pick that may or may not work out. Even if Suh did turn out to be a beast like Bruce, he would line up at the LOS, he would look to his left, then to his right, and to his horror he would see a void, a black hole, several holes. All the picks that we had given up for Suh would be on other teams, and we would be missing all the picks we coulda, shoulda, woulda had of new blood to help our Bills. But yes, we still have our Suh. Our beloved Suh. He will sack qb's, stop the run, cover wide receivers, play special teams, throw the ball for td's, run for many tds in his career, and more. He will have so much to do to make up for all the lost picks we would have had. By the time we get a first or 2nd round pick again, his career will be half over. (i'm exaggerating of course) So, please Bill Cowher, remember with all your might how you built the Super Bowl Steelers. Please don't veer away from what works. (It's Friday, i've had several beers as i'm sure a lot of you all have. My post is half in counter and half as jest. But seriously. Do what works. Don't sell the farm for one guy. I was content, happy even, sitting on my couch with my beer watching the opening ceremony to the Winter Olympics. Then I see this post on my cell. I had to reply) I do not agree with you on your post Bill Cowher. But I am glad you are a fanatical Bills fan. For that I cannot be upset. Go Bills!!
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