beerme1 Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 lol at anyone thinking the NFL would bring the game here for any reason whatsoever. Yes the league did the Minnesota thing and if you remember some of the comments from then, they will never do that again.
May Day 10 Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Back to goodells comment you can look at it 2 ways. Â Â 1. Posivitive. He still considers buffalo salvagable and viable in the nfl juggernaut. Enough so to try to lobby for improvements or a new venue. Â Â 2. Negative. He know it is unlikely to happen and he is planting the seeds to blame a relocation on the failure to get shiny new toys funded
JPS Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 One of Goodell's main responsibilities is to increase league revenue. And the best way to accomplish this remains for franchises to have new stadiums which typically charge more for tickets and include more high priced luxury boxes.  Over the past 15 years, 20 teams have constructed new stadiums. Additionally, KC, CHI, and GB have made huge renovations to existing parks. That's nearly 3/4 of the NFL with new or significantly upgraded homes.  NFL Stadiums  The commissioner is responsible for the league's health, not individual franchises like Buffalo. He'll step up the pressure on teams like SD, OAK, SF, and BUF to build new homes as a result. Problem is, we all know neither the state or local government have the funding to assist Buffalo. Unless the next owner is willing to spend their own money on a field (in addition to the team purchase price) I can't see the team remaining in WNY. I thought gate revenues are split and luxury box revenue goes directly to each owner. Since we're full, how does a new stadium help owners... unless they raise prices significantly.
BillsVet Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 I thought gate revenues are split and luxury box revenue goes directly to each owner. Since we're full, how does a new stadium help owners... unless they raise prices significantly. Â Ticket prices are split 60/40 between home and away teams. Thus, opposing (away) teams have an interest in the home team's ticket prices. It's a big difference if Buffalo plays in the new Giants stadium versus the Jets playing in Buffalo. Â Owners want the highest revenues, and there's a battle brewing between some of the big market guys like Jones and small teams like Buffalo. Goodell needs to do something fairly quick on this front and revenue sharing isn't enough.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 The NFL has put the Super Bowl into cold-weather cities before...Detroit (twice), Minneapolis and soon Indianapolis. New York City is bidding for one. Lately they have been using the Super Bowl as a carrot for teams looking to build new stadiums. Tell me any of those cities, outside of NYC, offer anything better than Niagara Falls? It's entirely possible to get one Super Bowl there. Niagara Falls is a world-famous landmark with hotels, casinos and attractions in place. They won't put it in Buffalo. Â PTR
dwight in philly Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 why the big deal of hosting a super bowl? do not get it! i want the long term future of the bills secured in buffalo. i think , realistically that happens due to the ralph, and if need be, improvements to it. who gives a sh-t about an elitist crowd, its really football's version amateur hour. i think football essentially ends with the conference championship games(if the bills arent in the super bowl).
Hammered a Lot Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 yet again, chawkie refuses to compare it to the continued mess which is getting in and out of the ralph and continues to not acknowledge that a lot of fans WOULDNT be coming from Buffalo under the new plan Listen, I respect what Chalkie sez. He is a very smart man. As far as the continued mess??? getting into and leaving the Ralph Have you ever gone to a concert (20,000 people) in Buffalo? Park in the wrong spot and your stuck in traffic for a half hour. The Ralph, (72,000 people) one hour after the game NO PROBLEMS.
truth on hold Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Listen, I respect what Chalkie sez. He is a very smart man. As far as the continued mess??? getting into and leaving the Ralph Have you ever gone to a concert (20,000 people) in Buffalo? Park in the wrong spot and your stuck in traffic for a half hour. The Ralph, (72,000 people) one hour after the game NO PROBLEMS. have your lovefest with Chalkie all you, but he won't address in any real way the traffic getting in and out of the ralph. any major sporting event ive ever been to poses some kind of wait getting in and out of the stadium. he acts a stadium in downtown in NF would be unique in that regard
dwight in philly Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 i do not think it is realistic to think of the area getting a new stadium in niagara falls, or anywhere. as an earlier poster said, money will, and should, be poured into the ralph . its there and seems to have the infrastructure to be able to sustain the upgrades. any "pie in the sky" stadium building would happen on the buffalo waterfront. again, it is reality, but i respect other's right to speculate.
Thoner7 Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 DOMED STADIUM, DOWNTOWN NIAGARA FALLS. "NIAGARA FRONTIER BILLS"BUILT WITH STIMULUS MONEY. GIVE OBAMA THE JOBS HE WANTS. Â It's all there for the taking if we'd just freaking ask. Â Â I'd rather not take any Obama money...our grandchildren's grandchildren will be paying for it in the end. Â Â If I ask, do you think Obama will give me the money to buy the team? Ill keep them in Buffalo which means jobs!
dwight in philly Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 If I ask, do you think Obama will give me the money to buy the team? Ill keep them in Buffalo which means jobs! highly doubt it!.. that is too much of a captialist thought!.. you must "share the wealth" perhaps you can buy it with a group of investors and divide up the profits with everybody.. under that scenerio, maybe he would!
Just Jack Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 highly doubt it!.. that is too much of a captialist thought!.. you must "share the wealth" perhaps you can buy it with a group of investors and divide up the profits with everybody.. under that scenerio, maybe he would! And let the goverment be one of the investors. The Bills will then give a free GM vehicle to every player that signs with the team.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 a more feasible idea would be a renovation of the current stadium... with a new lease, long lease. Green Bay did it, KC is in the process of doing it. That would be half the price of a new stadium. Â With the current stadium, you have SW Blvd. right there, Abbott with at least four lanes leaving the stadium, Big Tree... Milestrip gets you a clear shot to either route 5 or 219. How many four lanes of traffic can Niagara Falls have on residentials? Sounds a lot like War Memorial Stadium or Memorial Stadium that used to be in Baltimore. Â And they do a little digging in Niagara Falls and start uncovering some green goo that Occidental, Hooker Chemical et al. decided to bury at one point and not tell anyone. I suppose you can have tailgating there, just call it "Isotope Alley" and give everyone a free HazMat suit. Â
truth on hold Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 a more feasible idea would be a renovation of the current stadium... with a new lease, long lease. Green Bay did it, KC is in the process of doing it. That would be half the price of a new stadium. With the current stadium, you have SW Blvd. right there, Abbott with at least four lanes leaving the stadium, Big Tree... Milestrip gets you a clear shot to either route 5 or 219. How many four lanes of traffic can Niagara Falls have on residentials? Sounds a lot like War Memorial Stadium or Memorial Stadium that used to be in Baltimore.  And they do a little digging in Niagara Falls and start uncovering some green goo that Occidental, Hooker Chemical et al. decided to bury at one point and not tell anyone. I suppose you can have tailgating there, just call it "Isotope Alley" and give everyone a free HazMat suit.  you're desperation is making you silly now. when they were burying stuff in love canal -- no where near the falls -- dt nf was a vibrant business/tourist area. no way anything was buried there.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 You don't think the NFL would frown upon the idea of a stadium in Niagara Falls, NY? You don't think they would push heavily for a different location?
truth on hold Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 You don't think the NFL would frown upon the idea of a stadium in Niagara Falls, NY? You don't think they would push heavily for a different location? they have a stated agenda to market the bills to a wider audience. you know they wont lose fans from buffalo, and by changing name the slightly and moving the location next to canada and in the heart of a tourist area, i think theyd be all for it.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Money, or lack thereof will end up the biggest factor. Â Should snag a billion of that "stimulus" money... may as well, not backed by anything anyway. Â
JPS Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Ticket prices are split 60/40 between home and away teams. Thus, opposing (away) teams have an interest in the home team's ticket prices. It's a big difference if Buffalo plays in the new Giants stadium versus the Jets playing in Buffalo. Â Owners want the highest revenues, and there's a battle brewing between some of the big market guys like Jones and small teams like Buffalo. Goodell needs to do something fairly quick on this front and revenue sharing isn't enough. Understood. My point being: We do not need a new stadium to raise ticket prices. And if the arguement is for better luxury boxes, it gets the other owners nothing. So just raise our ticket prices and leave us be. That city, state and team is not going to build a new stadium. Period.
DCBongo Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 It is unlikely stimulus money would be used to build a domed stadium in Buffalo; however, stimulus money can be used for infrastructure projects that would complement a stadium being built. This would entail improving the surrounding highways, a demolition of old buildings. This would create local jobs which WNY needs. Then with a mix of private and state funds you could build a dome stadium which could be used for Bills Football, Concert promotions, state championships, trade shows and other stuff. If the stadium is right near the Falls you have a an established tourist area with the capacity to draw in events. This could be the spark the Buffalo area needs to reinvent itself. As many have already said, it makes too much sense.
dwight in philly Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 they have a stated agenda to market the bills to a wider audience. you know they wont lose fans from buffalo, and by changing name the slightly and moving the location next to canada and in the heart of a tourist area, i think theyd be all for it. thats silly, the niagara frontier bills?, the wny bills?, come on!
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