Keukasmallies Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Once more, with feeling, damn that George Bush!
LaDairis Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Once more, with feeling, damn that George Bush! George Herbert Walker Bush was a great President who did his best to control spending with a totally Dem controlled Congress and united the world to defend documented UN borders (well, other than the borders Israel violates...) in Desert Storm. As a result, he was trashed with the most vicious media coverage of any major party Prez candidate in modern history in 1992 for not selling out our troops to the Israel lobby. Zionists Larry King and others did an "October Surprise" five days before the election with an intentionally fake Iran-Contra piece as GHWB was closing on Clinton. George W Bush was the worst President in US history, a completely sold out idiot and traitor who spent like nobody since LBJ, socializing senior drugs by lying to Congress about the cost, with predictable economic results. W took a superpower with a surplus and sold out anything and everything he could to the Zionist lobby to get the money and especially the media coverage his pappy did not = our troops, the DOJ, the CIA, the Fed, the Treasury. W made those who hit us "not a priority" and sent way too few after them in Afghan, and then flipped off our allies in Afghan with our troops still deployed there, just as Israel wanted. W then intentionally lied and dumped our heroes in uniform in Iraq, just as Israel wanted. When the US economy collapsed because of W's porkfest, W bailed out the Chosen on Wall Street, just as Israel wanted. Jews in the US were above the law under W, including Madoff and those rabbis in NJ selling Palestinian body parts, just as Israel wanted. Under W, we were not the "United States," rather, we were the "States sold out to the Zionist Lobby." Thank you, President Obama, for deciding not to sell out the DOJ to the Zionist Lobby and instead prosecuting Zionist crooks like Madoff and those war criminal rabbi butchers.
DC Tom Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 You specifically ripped me for claiming GW is a fraud. You said it was not a fraud. Well, you were wrong. Different day, same result... I specifically ripped you because you're a dumbass who doesn't know what he's talking about, and aren't even remotely capable of judging the science as fraudulent or not.
LaDairis Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 I specifically ripped you because you're a dumbass who doesn't know what he's talking about, and aren't even remotely capable of judging the science as fraudulent or not. Oh, really... I've been calling it a FRAUD since 1995, and definitely since I first started posting here. Well, are you going to dispute that or agree with it, or stick your head back in the snow and toss another card. It IS a FRAUD, just as I've been saying all along, and precisely the FRAUD I identified, the DELIBERATE MISINTERPRETATION OF THE URBAN HEAT SINK EFFECT ON THE SURFACE GROUND TEMPERATURE SERIES the only "raw" series that shows any warming at all...
keepthefaith Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Oh, really... I've been calling it a FRAUD since 1995, and definitely since I first started posting here. Well, are you going to dispute that or agree with it, or stick your head back in the snow and toss another card. It IS a FRAUD, just as I've been saying all along, and precisely the FRAUD I identified, the DELIBERATE MISINTERPRETATION OF THE URBAN HEAT SINK EFFECT ON THE SURFACE GROUND TEMPERATURE SERIES the only "raw" series that shows any warming at all... Obama and company could gain more support for the green initiative if they simply focused on the the opportunitiy to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. That is of strategic importance to us long-term, it can create a lot of jobs and it can reduce emissions at the same time. That's the real opportunity and one that I believe would have broad support across party lines.
LaDairis Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 You don't quite get it. "Emissions" of CO2 aren't harming anything, because they aren't warming anything (the only accusation against CO2 is the phony "greenhouse" one), and hence every single dollar we spend on "reducing emissions" ... A) doesn't do anything and B) prevents that dollar from actually helping the real environment, such as in CA by building desal to reduce fresh water consumption and hence reduce those awful fires President Obama would earn a ton of respect if he checked the raw data himself and stopped wasting our taxdollars paying liars to keep lying to us.
Magox Posted February 10, 2010 Author Posted February 10, 2010 A voice of sanity. Exaggeration and alarmism have been a chronic weakness of environmentalism since it became an organized movement in the 1960s. Every ecological problem was instantly transformed into a potential world-ending crisis, from the population bomb to the imminent resource depletion of the “limits to growth” fad of the 1970s to acid rain to ozone depletion, always with an overlay of moral condemnation of anyone who dissented from environmental correctness. With global warming, the environmental movement thought it had hit the jackpot — a crisis sufficiently long-range that it could not be falsified and broad enough to justify massive political controls on resource use at a global level. Former Colorado senator Tim Wirth was unusually candid when he remarked in the early days of the climate campaign that “we’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing — in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Not surprisingly, after Wirth left the Senate and the Clinton administration he ended up at the United Nations.) That explains alot
DC Tom Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Oh, really... I've been calling it a FRAUD since 1995, and definitely since I first started posting here. Well, are you going to dispute that or agree with it, or stick your head back in the snow and toss another card. It IS a FRAUD, just as I've been saying all along, and precisely the FRAUD I identified, the DELIBERATE MISINTERPRETATION OF THE URBAN HEAT SINK EFFECT ON THE SURFACE GROUND TEMPERATURE SERIES the only "raw" series that shows any warming at all... Dispute what, precisely? That the science is fraudulent? Yes, I'll dispute that: it's bad science, not fraudulent science. And most of what you're bitching about anyway is policy, not science. You have as little understanding of the science as you do everything else.
LaDairis Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Dispute what, precisely? That the science is fraudulent? Yes, I'll dispute that: it's bad science, not fraudulent science. And most of what you're bitching about anyway is policy, not science. You have as little understanding of the science as you do everything else. It absolutely is fraudulent. The FRAUD began after the Global Cooling fizzled in the mid 1980s. Truth be told, that was the first mistake deliberately made by the media, accepting the "cooling" during Global Cooling, which is much more accurately described as cooling "on the surface of growing urban areas disproportionately in the northern hemisphere" because that's where the "data" originated. While Mann, Gore, and Hansen were too young to be behind Global Cooling, they were fascinated with the response the Time and Newsweek stories got. People BELIEVED Global Cooling. There is even a "SuperFreinds" cartoon episode about it. After inspecting the planet's temperature data in the mid 1980s, that being 1. slight overall warming on and up and down 30 year cycle pattern for Surface Ground - surface of growing urban areas 2. no warming in the atmosphere according to satellites and balloons 3. no warming in the oceans 4. no evidence of any net ice melt Mann and Hansen figured out that if they could just define "temperatures" as just Surface Ground, that series would "warm" as the cities where the measurements are taken grew over time. The timing was also perfect because SURFACE GROUND was coming off its 1970s "Global" "Cooling" near term lows and hence would likely swing higher in accordance with that 30 year or so pattern SURFACE GROUND shows (40-70 cooling, 70-98 warming, 99- cooling). The FRAUD was on. Leftist media allies would take it hook line and sinker, define those behind it as "the top scientists," censor all evidence refuting it, slander anyone questioning it, blaming each and every weather event on it (the latest being TIME claiming the snowstorms in DC are "because of" this "warming" that is only present ON THE SURFACE OF GROWING URBAN AREAS). Global Leftists saw tremendous opportunity to use THE FRAUD to GROW GOVERNMENT, RAISE TAXES, and INTRUDE ON PEOPLE's rights. The UN saw it as the ticket to empowering itself to TAX instead of BEG. Twenty years later, the felons behind it have deleted a lot of the data on which their claim's are based, the ClimateGate emails show vast conspiracies to lie, to fudge data, to deny access to sceptics, and to delete data after the "peer reviewed study" is out (cover the tracks of the real raw data which showed NO WARMING). Meanwhile, Planet Earth's data on temperature continues to read the following PRECISELY NO WARMING 1. in the atmosphere according to highly correlated satellites and balloons 2. in the oceans, even NPR admits it 3. on the surface of Antarctica and Siberia (no urban areas there) 4. PRECISELY NO NET ICE MELT 5. PRECISELY NO BREAKOUT IN CANE ACTIVITY 6. PRECISELY NO RISE IN OCEAN LEVELS You say that is not a "fraud." It was ALWAYS a FRAUD.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 When you have too much Mighty Taco?
IDBillzFan Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 I try not to use Newsbusters as a link here, but I have to make an exception in this case. To discuss Global Warming, MSNBC's Rachel Madcow reached deep into the authoritative mailbag to interview the Climactic King of Climate Change...Bill Nye the Science Guy, who argues that we have to pay attention to the people warning us about global warming because IPCC "got a scientific prize for making a discovery. They didn't get a minor award. This is a big deal." I had this vision of IPCC getting a box delivered with the Nobel Prize in it, and one of the guys looking at it saying "FRA-GEE-LAY! It must be from Italy! It's a major award!" Bill Nye and Rachel Madcow: Setting the record straight.
erynthered Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Flash back..........How do you like the snow fall this winter idiots? http://www.breitbart.tv/flashback-clips-sn...-urgent-action/ I know, I know this means nothing..............
DC Tom Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Flash back..........How do you like the snow fall this winter idiots? http://www.breitbart.tv/flashback-clips-sn...-urgent-action/ I know, I know this means nothing.............. Increased warming would mean winter weather patterns over North America featuring weaker high pressure over the central US, meaning the flow of moist gulf air from the southwest would tend more westerly than usual, meaning the nor'easter snowstorms that usually hit New England and the Maritimes would instead tend to develop further west and hit the mid-Atlantic. So yes, increased snowfall in the mid-Atlantic would be a sign of global warming. In as much as one could predict long-term trends from short-term data...which one can't.
erynthered Posted March 1, 2010 Posted March 1, 2010 I'll just throw this here....... No way he wrote that himself. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/opinion/...e&st=Search
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