Bills will be making a major move at QB

[Albany,n.y.]

Since Jack Kemp's last days, every time the Bills have had a perceived hole at QB, they've made a move. Be it a 1st day draft choice (which really didn't become relevant until the common draft, because the AFL draft choices could be lost to the NFL), a trade or both, the team has never stood pat. Even when the team has appeared set, they still made 1st day moves on QBs.

This offseason represents another year when the Bills go in with a hole at QB. I expect a QB in the 1st 3 rounds & possibly a trade before the draft, spending one of these pick on a more seasoned QB.

Here's a recap of what they've done.

1970-Spent a 2nd rounder on Dennis Shaw, who became the starter.

1973-Not happy with Dennis Shaw, after his promising beginning, the team drafts Joe Ferguson in the 3rd round. He starts from day 1 as a rookie.

In between Ferguson's rookie year in 1973 and his final year in 1984 the team spent a number of high picks on QBs looking earlier for a solid backup & then Fergy's eventual successor. The 1st day picks are 1974-Gary Marangi (3rd round), several later round QBs throughout the 1970s, 1980 Gene Bradley (2nd), 1982 Matt Kofler (2nd), 1983 Jim Kelly (1st).

With Ferguson done after 1984, Kelly in the USFL, and Joe Dufek ending up the starter that season, the team did some major work to upgrade the QB spot in 1985 trading a mid-rounder for former Super Bowl QB Vince Ferragamo and drafting Frank Reich in the 3rd round. Then they went to the scrap heap to get Bruce Mathison after they decided to dump Dufek. With Ferragamo failing, Mathison became the starter and Ferragamo got cut, ending the season in Green Bay. Now forward to the following year & the Bills sign Art Schlichter to go with Reich & Mathison, but their real target is 1983 draft choice Jim Kelly, who signs a big contract & along with Frank Reich, solidifies the QB position for the next decade.

With Kelly aging, and Frank Reich leaving for a chance to start in Carolina, the Bills look ahead & spend a 2nd round pick on Todd Collins. In 1997 the Bills are not sure Collins can do it, so they trade a 3rd rounder for some competition-Billy Joe Hobert. Collins ends up the starter but only gets a year to prove himself as the starter and doesn't cut it well enough to satisfy the team.

It is now 1998 and the Bills once again see a hole at QB. With starter Todd Collins on the thinnest of ice, 1st they bring in Doug Flutie and then go for the gold (and get manure instead) sending 1st rd pick #9 and a 4th to Jacksonville for Rob Johnson, who promptly signs a 5 year $25 million contract.

Nothing happens between 1998 & 2000 because the Bills feel they have 2 QBs and are set. The only move for 2001 is to decide which QB to keep between Johnson & Flutie. They conduct interviews with both to see what they think of the team's offensive plans for 2001. The choice turns out to be an easy one as egomaniacs Tom Donahoe & Gregg Williams hear Johnson willing to toe the line while Flutie tells them he'll try it, but if it doesn't work out he wants to do it his way. Egomaniacs don't like that & cut Flutie.

After the 2001 final failure of Rob Johnson, the team once again has a hole at QB. They once again make the big move, trading a future 1st round pick for Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe makes the Pro Bowl in 2002 and even though he tailed off in the 2nd half he's the unquestioned starter.

After a shaky 2003 season the Bills aren't quite sure how much Bledsoe has left, so they go bold again in 2004. 1st they try to trade up for Ben Roethlisberger, then failing to do so, they end up once again bombing in a bold QB move trading a 2nd, 5th & a future 1st for JP Losman.

In 2005 with Bledsoe gone and Losman named the starter, the Bills get insurance with Kelly Holcomb signing as a free agent. Then in 2006 they sign UFA Craig Nall and in 1987 draft Trent Edwards in the 3rd. Through 2009 they now feel Trent Edwards is the answer, but they need a backup after JP Losman leaves & sign Ryan Fitzpatrick with the intent of having a non-threatening #2. Eventually career 3rd Gibran Hamdan, Trent's best buddy, is waivd when Trent is benched & Brian Brohm is signed as the new #3 and the team's latest project. Hamdan returns when Buddy Trent goes down for the season.

After this season's disaster the Bills are in a familiar spot-No QB is on the roster that they can confidently pencil in as the starter for 2010. History says they will make a bold move, going for QB gold no later than April's draft. This means they will go with at least 1 new QB, possibly two. If the Bills go into the draft without acquiring one of Philadelphia's QBs in a trade, team history almost guarantees the selection of a QB no later than round 3 and more likely round 1 or 2. Don't be surprised if the Bills trade up in the 1st round if they have Bradford or Claussen targeted. This team has never been afraid to make the bold move for a QB and I'm sure Ralph, who has been the one constant in the Bills history, has told Buddy Nix to get him a high profile QB.

[Smerlas 88]

Well written!

 

The past decade should be noted as the decade of the embarassment and shame. Think about it, only Ferguson, Kelly and Flutie really have been worth their salt in three decades.

 

Since Jack Kemp's last days, every time the Bills have had a perceived hole at QB, they've made a move. Be it a 1st day draft choice (which really didn't become relevant until the common draft, because the AFL draft choices could be lost to the NFL), a trade or both, the team has never stood pat. Even when the team has appeared set, they still made 1st day moves on QBs.

This offseason represents another year when the Bills go in with a hole at QB. I expect a QB in the 1st 3 rounds & possibly a trade before the draft, spending one of these pick on a more seasoned QB.

Here's a recap of what they've done.

1970-Spent a 2nd rounder on Dennis Shaw, who became the starter.

1973-Not happy with Dennis Shaw, after his promising beginning, the team drafts Joe Ferguson in the 3rd round. He starts from day 1 as a rookie.

In between Ferguson's rookie year in 1973 and his final year in 1984 the team spent a number of high picks on QBs looking earlier for a solid backup & then Fergy's eventual successor. The 1st day picks are 1974-Gary Marangi (3rd round), several later round QBs throughout the 1970s, 1980 Gene Bradley (2nd), 1982 Matt Kofler (2nd), 1983 Jim Kelly (1st).

With Ferguson done after 1984, Kelly in the USFL, and Joe Dufek ending up the starter that season, the team did some major work to upgrade the QB spot in 1985 trading a mid-rounder for former Super Bowl QB Vince Ferragamo and drafting Frank Reich in the 3rd round. Then they went to the scrap heap to get Bruce Mathison after they decided to dump Dufek. With Ferragamo failing, Mathison became the starter and Ferragamo got cut, ending the season in Green Bay. Now forward to the following year & the Bills sign Art Schlichter to go with Reich & Mathison, but their real target is 1983 draft choice Jim Kelly, who signs a big contract & along with Frank Reich, solidifies the QB position for the next decade.

With Kelly aging, and Frank Reich leaving for a chance to start in Carolina, the Bills look ahead & spend a 2nd round pick on Todd Collins. In 1997 the Bills are not sure Collins can do it, so they trade a 3rd rounder for some competition-Billy Joe Hobert. Collins ends up the starter but only gets a year to prove himself as the starter and doesn't cut it well enough to satisfy the team.

It is now 1998 and the Bills once again see a hole at QB. With starter Todd Collins on the thinnest of ice, 1st they bring in Doug Flutie and then go for the gold (and get manure instead) sending 1st rd pick #9 and a 4th to Jacksonville for Rob Johnson, who promptly signs a 5 year $25 million contract.

Nothing happens between 1998 & 2000 because the Bills feel they have 2 QBs and are set. The only move for 2001 is to decide which QB to keep between Johnson & Flutie. They conduct interviews with both to see what they think of the team's offensive plans for 2001. The choice turns out to be an easy one as egomaniacs Tom Donahoe & Gregg Williams hear Johnson willing to toe the line while Flutie tells them he'll try it, but if it doesn't work out he wants to do it his way. Egomaniacs don't like that & cut Flutie.

After the 2001 final failure of Rob Johnson, the team once again has a hole at QB. They once again make the big move, trading a future 1st round pick for Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe makes the Pro Bowl in 2002 and even though he tailed off in the 2nd half he's the unquestioned starter.

After a shaky 2003 season the Bills aren't quite sure how much Bledsoe has left, so they go bold again in 2004. 1st they try to trade up for Ben Roethlisberger, then failing to do so, they end up once again bombing in a bold QB move trading a 2nd, 5th & a future 1st for JP Losman.

In 2005 with Bledsoe gone and Losman named the starter, the Bills get insurance with Kelly Holcomb signing as a free agent. Then in 2006 they sign UFA Craig Nall and in 1987 draft Trent Edwards in the 3rd. Through 2009 they now feel Trent Edwards is the answer, but they need a backup after JP Losman leaves & sign Ryan Fitzpatrick with the intent of having a non-threatening #2. Eventually career 3rd Gibran Hamdan, Trent's best buddy, is waivd when Trent is benched & Brian Brohm is signed as the new #3 and the team's latest project. Hamdan returns when Buddy Trent goes down for the season.

After this season's disaster the Bills are in a familiar spot-No QB is on the roster that they can confidently pencil in as the starter for 2010. History says they will make a bold move, going for QB gold no later than April's draft. This means they will go with at least 1 new QB, possibly two. If the Bills go into the draft without acquiring one of Philadelphia's QBs in a trade, team history almost guarantees the selection of a QB no later than round 3 and more likely round 1 or 2. Don't be surprised if the Bills trade up in the 1st round if they have Bradford or Claussen targeted. This team has never been afraid to make the bold move for a QB and I'm sure Ralph, who has been the one constant in the Bills history, has told Buddy Nix to get him a high profile QB.

[DarthICE]

We had better, these three scrubs flat suck.

[JPS]

While I appreciate the effort and don't disagree with the assertion, that process is the same for every position on the team. I don't think the Bills are special in their process. It does stress how important the QB position is. It also stresses how much of a crapshoot it is. We gave up a lot of high picks for guys like Hobert, Johnson, Losman, Edwards, etc...

 

Maybe you draft a QB every year and hope you get lucky.

[K-9]

Quality post.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[BB2004]

Since Jack Kemp's last days, every time the Bills have had a perceived hole at QB, they've made a move. Be it a 1st day draft choice (which really didn't become relevant until the common draft, because the AFL draft choices could be lost to the NFL), a trade or both, the team has never stood pat. Even when the team has appeared set, they still made 1st day moves on QBs.

This offseason represents another year when the Bills go in with a hole at QB. I expect a QB in the 1st 3 rounds & possibly a trade before the draft, spending one of these pick on a more seasoned QB.

Here's a recap of what they've done.

1970-Spent a 2nd rounder on Dennis Shaw, who became the starter.

1973-Not happy with Dennis Shaw, after his promising beginning, the team drafts Joe Ferguson in the 3rd round. He starts from day 1 as a rookie.

In between Ferguson's rookie year in 1973 and his final year in 1984 the team spent a number of high picks on QBs looking earlier for a solid backup & then Fergy's eventual successor. The 1st day picks are 1974-Gary Marangi (3rd round), several later round QBs throughout the 1970s, 1980 Gene Bradley (2nd), 1982 Matt Kofler (2nd), 1983 Jim Kelly (1st).

With Ferguson done after 1984, Kelly in the USFL, and Joe Dufek ending up the starter that season, the team did some major work to upgrade the QB spot in 1985 trading a mid-rounder for former Super Bowl QB Vince Ferragamo and drafting Frank Reich in the 3rd round. Then they went to the scrap heap to get Bruce Mathison after they decided to dump Dufek. With Ferragamo failing, Mathison became the starter and Ferragamo got cut, ending the season in Green Bay. Now forward to the following year & the Bills sign Art Schlichter to go with Reich & Mathison, but their real target is 1983 draft choice Jim Kelly, who signs a big contract & along with Frank Reich, solidifies the QB position for the next decade.

With Kelly aging, and Frank Reich leaving for a chance to start in Carolina, the Bills look ahead & spend a 2nd round pick on Todd Collins. In 1997 the Bills are not sure Collins can do it, so they trade a 3rd rounder for some competition-Billy Joe Hobert. Collins ends up the starter but only gets a year to prove himself as the starter and doesn't cut it well enough to satisfy the team.

It is now 1998 and the Bills once again see a hole at QB. With starter Todd Collins on the thinnest of ice, 1st they bring in Doug Flutie and then go for the gold (and get manure instead) sending 1st rd pick #9 and a 4th to Jacksonville for Rob Johnson, who promptly signs a 5 year $25 million contract.

Nothing happens between 1998 & 2000 because the Bills feel they have 2 QBs and are set. The only move for 2001 is to decide which QB to keep between Johnson & Flutie. They conduct interviews with both to see what they think of the team's offensive plans for 2001. The choice turns out to be an easy one as egomaniacs Tom Donahoe & Gregg Williams hear Johnson willing to toe the line while Flutie tells them he'll try it, but if it doesn't work out he wants to do it his way. Egomaniacs don't like that & cut Flutie.

After the 2001 final failure of Rob Johnson, the team once again has a hole at QB. They once again make the big move, trading a future 1st round pick for Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe makes the Pro Bowl in 2002 and even though he tailed off in the 2nd half he's the unquestioned starter.

After a shaky 2003 season the Bills aren't quite sure how much Bledsoe has left, so they go bold again in 2004. 1st they try to trade up for Ben Roethlisberger, then failing to do so, they end up once again bombing in a bold QB move trading a 2nd, 5th & a future 1st for JP Losman.

In 2005 with Bledsoe gone and Losman named the starter, the Bills get insurance with Kelly Holcomb signing as a free agent. Then in 2006 they sign UFA Craig Nall and in 1987 draft Trent Edwards in the 3rd. Through 2009 they now feel Trent Edwards is the answer, but they need a backup after JP Losman leaves & sign Ryan Fitzpatrick with the intent of having a non-threatening #2. Eventually career 3rd Gibran Hamdan, Trent's best buddy, is waivd when Trent is benched & Brian Brohm is signed as the new #3 and the team's latest project. Hamdan returns when Buddy Trent goes down for the season.

After this season's disaster the Bills are in a familiar spot-No QB is on the roster that they can confidently pencil in as the starter for 2010. History says they will make a bold move, going for QB gold no later than April's draft. This means they will go with at least 1 new QB, possibly two. If the Bills go into the draft without acquiring one of Philadelphia's QBs in a trade, team history almost guarantees the selection of a QB no later than round 3 and more likely round 1 or 2. Don't be surprised if the Bills trade up in the 1st round if they have Bradford or Claussen targeted. This team has never been afraid to make the bold move for a QB and I'm sure Ralph, who has been the one constant in the Bills history, has told Buddy Nix to get him a high profile QB.

 

Excellent analogy. So in your opinion, what quarterback would you take and why?

[sabres...yawn]

Since Jack Kemp's last days, every time the Bills have had a perceived hole at QB, they've made a move. Be it a 1st day draft choice (which really didn't become relevant until the common draft, because the AFL draft choices could be lost to the NFL), a trade or both, the team has never stood pat. Even when the team has appeared set, they still made 1st day moves on QBs.

This offseason represents another year when the Bills go in with a hole at QB. I expect a QB in the 1st 3 rounds & possibly a trade before the draft, spending one of these pick on a more seasoned QB.

Here's a recap of what they've done.

1970-Spent a 2nd rounder on Dennis Shaw, who became the starter.

1973-Not happy with Dennis Shaw, after his promising beginning, the team drafts Joe Ferguson in the 3rd round. He starts from day 1 as a rookie.

In between Ferguson's rookie year in 1973 and his final year in 1984 the team spent a number of high picks on QBs looking earlier for a solid backup & then Fergy's eventual successor. The 1st day picks are 1974-Gary Marangi (3rd round), several later round QBs throughout the 1970s, 1980 Gene Bradley (2nd), 1982 Matt Kofler (2nd), 1983 Jim Kelly (1st).

With Ferguson done after 1984, Kelly in the USFL, and Joe Dufek ending up the starter that season, the team did some major work to upgrade the QB spot in 1985 trading a mid-rounder for former Super Bowl QB Vince Ferragamo and drafting Frank Reich in the 3rd round. Then they went to the scrap heap to get Bruce Mathison after they decided to dump Dufek. With Ferragamo failing, Mathison became the starter and Ferragamo got cut, ending the season in Green Bay. Now forward to the following year & the Bills sign Art Schlichter to go with Reich & Mathison, but their real target is 1983 draft choice Jim Kelly, who signs a big contract & along with Frank Reich, solidifies the QB position for the next decade.

With Kelly aging, and Frank Reich leaving for a chance to start in Carolina, the Bills look ahead & spend a 2nd round pick on Todd Collins. In 1997 the Bills are not sure Collins can do it, so they trade a 3rd rounder for some competition-Billy Joe Hobert. Collins ends up the starter but only gets a year to prove himself as the starter and doesn't cut it well enough to satisfy the team.

It is now 1998 and the Bills once again see a hole at QB. With starter Todd Collins on the thinnest of ice, 1st they bring in Doug Flutie and then go for the gold (and get manure instead) sending 1st rd pick #9 and a 4th to Jacksonville for Rob Johnson, who promptly signs a 5 year $25 million contract.

Nothing happens between 1998 & 2000 because the Bills feel they have 2 QBs and are set. The only move for 2001 is to decide which QB to keep between Johnson & Flutie. They conduct interviews with both to see what they think of the team's offensive plans for 2001. The choice turns out to be an easy one as egomaniacs Tom Donahoe & Gregg Williams hear Johnson willing to toe the line while Flutie tells them he'll try it, but if it doesn't work out he wants to do it his way. Egomaniacs don't like that & cut Flutie.

After the 2001 final failure of Rob Johnson, the team once again has a hole at QB. They once again make the big move, trading a future 1st round pick for Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe makes the Pro Bowl in 2002 and even though he tailed off in the 2nd half he's the unquestioned starter.

After a shaky 2003 season the Bills aren't quite sure how much Bledsoe has left, so they go bold again in 2004. 1st they try to trade up for Ben Roethlisberger, then failing to do so, they end up once again bombing in a bold QB move trading a 2nd, 5th & a future 1st for JP Losman.

In 2005 with Bledsoe gone and Losman named the starter, the Bills get insurance with Kelly Holcomb signing as a free agent. Then in 2006 they sign UFA Craig Nall and in 1987 draft Trent Edwards in the 3rd. Through 2009 they now feel Trent Edwards is the answer, but they need a backup after JP Losman leaves & sign Ryan Fitzpatrick with the intent of having a non-threatening #2. Eventually career 3rd Gibran Hamdan, Trent's best buddy, is waivd when Trent is benched & Brian Brohm is signed as the new #3 and the team's latest project. Hamdan returns when Buddy Trent goes down for the season.

After this season's disaster the Bills are in a familiar spot-No QB is on the roster that they can confidently pencil in as the starter for 2010. History says they will make a bold move, going for QB gold no later than April's draft. This means they will go with at least 1 new QB, possibly two. If the Bills go into the draft without acquiring one of Philadelphia's QBs in a trade, team history almost guarantees the selection of a QB no later than round 3 and more likely round 1 or 2. Don't be surprised if the Bills trade up in the 1st round if they have Bradford or Claussen targeted. This team has never been afraid to make the bold move for a QB and I'm sure Ralph, who has been the one constant in the Bills history, has told Buddy Nix to get him a high profile QB.

 

 

Using logic to predict Ralph Wilson's behavior?

 

A very precarious place to be, indeed.

[K-9]

I hear what you're saying about getting into RW's head. God only knows what goes on in there. But the OP is dead on IMO.

 

When you look at the fact that since 02-03 with Bledsoe, our offenses have sucked across a wide variety of offensive personnel. Different Olines, RBs, WRs, TEs, you name it. The one constant is that we've suffered from a dearth of QB play. Atrocious QB play. Abysmal QB play. That's the one common denominator of our low offensive rankings.

 

When you suck so long on offense over that many different player combos it HAS to be the QB. We need a quality QB. I would not be a bit surprised to see us go balls to the wall to acquire what the FO feels (not what we feel) is a bonafide franchise player at the QB position. Nor would I be the least bit disappointed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Munch]

First off, excellent post.

 

Secondly, I too am curious as to who you think we should bring in? I am a firm believer in giving almost the kitchen sink to get McNabb here, my second choice would probably be Troy Smith though. He has looked decent at times and was the starter over Flacco in training camp until he got injured. I think he may be worth a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

I also think if we could get a good LT with our 1st pick, I believe Jake Delhomme would be another guy we could possibly get cheap to fill in for a year or 2. Draft maybe Lefevour or Tony Pike later in the draft to sit behind him for a year, and let Brohm and the rookie battle it out for #2 and eventual #1.

[BillsRUs]

Using logic to predict Ralph Wilson's behavior?

 

A very precarious place to be, indeed.

 

 

Well, if there's one think RW has always been accused of, its being predictable.

[Cash]

Very solid post, and I think your prediction has a lot of merit. Throw in the fact that Gailey (FYI, I accidentally typed "Failey" at first) is as uninspiring a hire as possible, which means that the FO needs to do something to keep season ticket sales up, and it's even more likely. My worry is that the "big move" will be drafting Tebow at #9 overall. I might very well throw up if that happens. But Gailey likes mobile QBs and isn't afraid to run the spread full-time (see 2008 Chiefs), and Tebow would certainly sell tons of tickets, get people (other than me) excited, and make the Bills nationally relevant for a short time. In other words, same as the TO signing, but costing us a good player at #9 instead of Tebow.

[billsfan89]

With the way Nix seems to like to build a team I think he will draft up the trenches with both the 1st and 2nd round picks. I think Nix will go for a professional presence at QB and go for an older guy like Chad Pennington or Kerry Collins to anchor the position for one year and teach/take pressure off Brohm (Fitz will be the backup).

 

Traditionally anytime Buffalo has made a regime change there usually is a QB change soon after assuming there is a opening at the position (Flutie and Bledsoe being the most recent examples). HOWEVER not always is there a QB change when a new regime takes hold. The last time we changed GM's/Coaches in 2006 (TD to Marv 2.0) we kept Losman as the QB (And didn't even sign someone to compete with him) and reinforced his standing as our guy.

 

So I think we will obviously have a new starter come September (Unless injury forces Fitz or Brohm into action) but its not a result of a new regime but rather the lack of an answer at the QB position.

[lvbillzfan]

Man, wouldn't it be great to hit big on our next QB. Everything stems from that. We haven't had that in a long time.

[reddogblitz]

Secondly, I too am curious as to who you think we should bring in? I am a firm believer in giving almost the kitchen sink to get McNabb here, my second choice would probably be Troy Smith though.

You didn't ask me, but I'll tell you mine. I too like the idea of McNabb. Give up whatever it takes to get him within reason of course. I have no interest in Troy Smith or anyone else who hasn't won anything. After McNabb I'd go for in this order:

 

Kyle Orton

Chad Pennington

Todd Collins

Kerry Collins

Duante Culpepper

Tavaris Jackson

Jeff Garcia

Damon Huard

 

I want someone who can play and win in the NFL and we know this because we've seen them do it with our own eyes. Potential means you haven't done anything. None of these guys are long term, but so what? Let's just go into a season without QB being a major question mark for the sixth year in a row. We can find long term guys later.

[gflande1]

Assuming Phili is willing to trade Mcnabb...what would it take? I think it would be too much to give, especially with all the holes we have.

 

Would Lynch and our second be enough?

[JPS]

Assuming Phili is willing to trade Mcnabb...what would it take? I think it would be too much to give, especially with all the holes we have.

 

Would Lynch and our second be enough?

 

Horrible idea. Never trade 2nd rounder for anyone over 30. Lynch and Schobel.

[bananathumb]

Vick makes the most sense. Hope they don't give up much to get him.

[DanInSouthBuffalo]

I'm not feelin' it. I can see them going after a QB at some point, but I think that first pick needs to be of more impact. Whoever they pick has to come in day-one and make a difference.

 

Changing to a 3-4 we have major issues at NT and LB, as well on offense at OT. I think an OT like Bulaga or a LB like Rolando McLain you can put in PEN into the starting lineup and stop the bleeding. Free-agency may tip its hand as to what direction we will be moving in first in the draft.

[BillyBaroo]

You didn't ask me, but I'll tell you mine. I too like the idea of McNabb. Give up whatever it takes to get him within reason of course. I have no interest in Troy Smith or anyone else who hasn't won anything. After McNabb I'd go for in this order:

 

Kyle Orton

Chad Pennington

Todd Collins

Kerry Collins

Duante Culpepper

Tavaris Jackson

Jeff Garcia

Damon Huard

 

I want someone who can play and win in the NFL and we know this because we've seen them do it with our own eyes. Potential means you haven't done anything. None of these guys are long term, but so what? Let's just go into a season without QB being a major question mark for the sixth year in a row. We can find long term guys later.

This is a good list but I really only think these 4 are worth this type of approach:

 

Definites:

McNabb

Kerry Collins

 

Maybes:

Pennington

Garcia

 

I'm not sure McNabb would want to come here - but K. Collins might!

[BuffaloBlood]

This is a good list but I really only think these 4 are worth this type of approach:

 

Definites:

McNabb

Kerry Collins

 

Maybes:

Pennington

Garcia

 

I'm not sure McNabb would want to come here - but K. Collins might!

 

Garcia is done.

Pennington couldnt throw in New York before the latest injurt you thnk he could succeed in the conditions in the B-Lo? uhh no

Collins would only be ok if we drafted a QB this year and gave him a year to develop cause we may find out very quickly that Collins has hit the wall and is done.

McNabb would be great but its just not realalistic.

I am of the opinion that we need to fix the line and establish an identity before we draft a QB. Rookie QBs have a much better chance to suceed if they come into a team that is not a complete dog. (Sanchez, Big Ben, Flacco---good....... Harrington, Carr, Alex SMith bad). Yes there are some exceptions but I do think that we should build the team with a vet at Qb and maybe wait a year to draft a QB. Not to mention that this QB class isnt exactly the best.