eball Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Not going to happen. Ralph won't trust the man after interviewing for head coach position when Wade was fired. Ted thinks Ralph won't hire a black head coach! I believe there is some bad blood there. Bills hired Greg Williams which didn't sit well with Ted. What about the umpteen other HC jobs in the NFL since 2001 Cottrell wasn't hired to fill? I don't know if the Bills are looking at Ted for DC or not -- but not being hired as HC in 2001 won't be the reason he doesn't take the job if it is offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Not going to happen. Ralph won't trust the man after interviewing for head coach position when Wade was fired. Ted thinks Ralph won't hire a black head coach! I believe there is some bad blood there. Bills hired Greg Williams which didn't sit well with Ted. Hiring Williams didn't sit well with me either, but who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 in my recollection, i think Mr. Wilson asked that Ronnie Jones be fired, not so much Dehaven. jw Wilson had Dehaven and Ronny Jones fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Cottrell did little more to distinguish himself than watch Bruce play. How about Joe Vitt for DC? He's the Assistant Head Coach of the Saints and has been coaching defenses for years. He's the most qualified among the SB participants and that would explain the delay. Not inspiring, but logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 1. He had great sucess in Buffalo (1995-2000) 2. Knows how to stop the run (extra important in Buffalo climate) 3. Has worked with Buddy Nix in Buffalo and San Diego 4. Very Experienced 5. Struggles a little against the pass (that's why we kept a proven secondary coach) 6. Will employ the 3-4, something I believe Nix is looking for 7. The rest of the staff has already been hired....Since we have not knowingly interviewed superbowl assistants it wouldn't add up 8. Has not been hired yet because both sides are probably trying to hammer out the details of his current contract with the UFL Just a guess, but i think this is the guy. Nix wants coaches with experience (Gailey, Dehaven......Cottrell?). For this reason I DO NOT believe we are waiting on a d-line/linebacker coach of a superbowl team. I also think that the hiring of Dehaven speaks vollumes to the fact they are not afraid to get coaches Nix and Wilson are familiar with from previous experiences in Buffalo......Back when we were good. None of these are "signs"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Let's hope they don't bring Ted back, I believe his time has passed him and it is obvious his value has decreased. A few years ago his name was mentioned in almost every head coaching vacancy, now the only work he could get was in the UFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just looked up and saw Cotrell was our DC 95-2000. Who was our DC during the Superbowl years? I thought it was him. Regardless, it's Joe Vitt or some other obscure guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide_right Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 How about Walt Corey? He fits our bend don't break style. He'll also be 72 this year so he meets the minimum age requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 If it was going to be Cottrell, he would have been named by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 I think this would be a disappointing move. Ted rode Wade's coattails and our D slowly got worse. He was also let go from San Diego despite inheriting a talented defense. While I'm ok with Gailey's hiring for his offensive prowess, the selection of Cotrell would be a signal we're settling for mediocrity again. Completely agree...his bend but don't break D is a thing of the past...he's just doesn't have an aggressive enough style for the NFL anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 cottrell is a good guy but a lousy strategist and gailey is going to leave his DC on an island to run that side. I do NOT like the idea of Ted having that kind of influence. On his own, he has not been impressive - only under the rule of a defensive HC has he been effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Preceded by Wade Phillips Buffalo Bills Defensive Coordinator 1998–2000 Succeeded by Jerry Gray Preceded by Mike Nolan New York Jets Defensive Coordinator 2001–2003 Succeeded by Donnie Henderson Preceded by George O'Leary Minnesota Vikings Defensive Coordinator 2004–2005 Succeeded by Mike Tomlin Preceded by Wade Phillips San Diego Chargers Defensive Coordinator 2007–October 28, 2008 Succeeded by Ron Rivera United Football League (2009) yEAH...he fits the skill. Nondescript 63 year old guy who was unable to hold a position for more than two seasons and was sent to the minors last year. Fits right in the staff Gailey is building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Wilson had Dehaven and Ronny Jones fired. you're either going to have to find a link, or we'll assume that you're talking out of your hindquarters. I was drunk from about 1998 - 2003, so I really don't remember what happened, but I'm certainly going to take jw's word over yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just looked up and saw Cotrell was our DC 95-2000. Who was our DC during the Superbowl years? I thought it was him. Regardless, it's Joe Vitt or some other obscure guy. It was Walt Corey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Corey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Holy cow---is this really what they've come up with?? No to Cottrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 According to Wikipedia, Ronnie Jones currently serves as defensive coordinator at Arlington Martin High School. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 According to Wikipedia, Ronnie Jones currently serves as defensive coordinator at Arlington Martin High School. Ouch. From your post I decided to read his Wikipedia. If any of this wikipedianess is true what a sad career that guy had. Managed to turn everything he had to crap on every level of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Briefly, for Brian Billick's sake, the sequence goes like this... 1) Bills lose 'Music City Miracle' game 2) To divert blame from his own fat ass, Wade makes DeHaven the 'scapegoat' for the fiasco and fires Bruce, states his intention to take more responsibility for Special Teams himself, then proceeds to replace DeHaven with Wade's unqualified crony, Ronnie Jones 3) Bills overall record plummets from 11-5 in '99 to 8-8 in 2000, largely in part to disastrous Special Teams performance under Jones 4) Ralph insists Wade fire Ronnie Jones (not Bruce DeHaven) as a condition of Wade's own continued employment 5) Wade refuses, and is fired 6) Ralph claims Wade 'quit' - or was insubordinate - and refuses to pay Wade for the remainder of his contract 7) Wade sues Ralph and wins his lawsuit 8) Wade moves on to Atlanta, San Diego, and finally to Dallas where his daughter Tracy becomes an exotic dancer and ersatz actress, winning bit parts in films such as Charlie Wilson's War... Ted Cotrell the next Bills DC? I think not. Yup, that timeline looks accurate to me (although I'll have to defer to your knowledge on Wade's daughter). To emphasize the Ronnie-Jones-as-Wade's-crony bit, Wes Phillips was the West Texas A+M QB coach during Jones' less-than-stellar stint as a HC there. (Got fired from that job, too, after going 5-27.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Briefly, for Brian Billick's sake, the sequence goes like this... 1) Bills lose 'Music City Miracle' game 2) To divert blame from his own fat ass, Wade makes DeHaven the 'scapegoat' for the fiasco and fires Bruce, states his intention to take more responsibility for Special Teams himself, then proceeds to replace DeHaven with Wade's unqualified crony, Ronnie Jones 3) Bills overall record plummets from 11-5 in '99 to 8-8 in 2000, largely in part to disastrous Special Teams performance under Jones 4) Ralph insists Wade fire Ronnie Jones (not Bruce DeHaven) as a condition of Wade's own continued employment 5) Wade refuses, and is fired 6) Ralph claims Wade 'quit' - or was insubordinate - and refuses to pay Wade for the remainder of his contract 7) Wade sues Ralph and wins his lawsuit 8) Wade moves on to Atlanta, San Diego, and finally to Dallas where his daughter Tracy becomes an exotic dancer and ersatz actress, winning bit parts in films such as Charlie Wilson's War... Ted Cotrell the next Bills DC? I think not. 2b) Do not forget that Ronnie Jones had a connection to Wade's kid, who was playing QB at a college that Ronnie was involved with. His hiring was payback for a favor. I say NO to Ted Cotrell. I do not see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 1. He had great sucess in Buffalo (1995-2000) 2. Knows how to stop the run (extra important in Buffalo climate) 3. Has worked with Buddy Nix in Buffalo and San Diego 4. Very Experienced 5. Struggles a little against the pass (that's why we kept a proven secondary coach) 6. Will employ the 3-4, something I believe Nix is looking for 7. The rest of the staff has already been hired....Since we have not knowingly interviewed superbowl assistants it wouldn't add up 8. Has not been hired yet because both sides are probably trying to hammer out the details of his current contract with the UFL Just a guess, but i think this is the guy. Nix wants coaches with experience (Gailey, Dehaven......Cottrell?). For this reason I DO NOT believe we are waiting on a d-line/linebacker coach of a superbowl team. I also think that the hiring of Dehaven speaks vollumes to the fact they are not afraid to get coaches Nix and Wilson are familiar with from previous experiences in Buffalo......Back when we were good. You are so wrong here it's not funny. So Cottrell is waiting to work out his UFL deal?? What stopped Haslett from joining the Redskins weeks ago?? Trust me if Cottrell were the choice he'd be here and announced already. Ted Cotrell ain't walking though that door. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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