BillyBaroo Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 With the chatter coming from the FO and new head coach, one has to believe Many a Bill are a little nervous right now. How about we have some fun with this and pick 10 that are safe and 10 that are gone. I will start. SAFE....Fred Jackson, Levitre, Wood, Nelson, Byrd, Stroud, Williams, Fitzpatrick, Evans, Stevie Johnson. GONE...Edwards, Hamden, Ellison, Whitner, Lynch, Denney, Mccargo, Palmer, Youbuty, Corto. I know everyone will have their own opinions on who stays and goes, just interested to see what everyone else thinks. Also, I took no consideration into where players were drafted for obvious reasons. Youbuty has been "safe" since day 1 - he never went in hard enough for a tackle to be anything other than safe
loyalbillsfan Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 I would say definitley coming back: Offence: Bell, Butler, Evans, Levitre, Nelson, Hangartner, Wood, Jackson Defence (if 4-3): Schobel, Williams, Johnson, Pozluszny, Mitchell, Byrd, McGee, McKelvin, Florence, Corner, Wilson, Nic Harris, Lankster, Carry Harris, Maybin, Wendling Maybe coming back: Offence: Edwards, Fitzpatrick, Brohm, Lynch, Hardy, Johnson, Schoumann, Fine, Stupar, Meredith, Incognito, McIntyre, Jenkins Defence: Bryan Scott, Whitner, Stroud, Palmer, Corto Not coming back: Offence: Chambers, Parrish, Reed, Klopfenstein, Simmons, J.Scott, McKinney, Hamdan Defence: Ellison, McCargo, Youboty, Kelsay, Ellis, Denney, Buggs, Draft There's some guys that I put on here I would only bring back as special team guys, i.e. Wendling, Corto, Jenkins...there's some other guys I didn't bother putting on here that they signed very late in the year or off the practice roster...some of them may stay, who knows
BillyBaroo Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Safe list also add Evans, Hangartner, Moorman, Lindell, Poz and Mitchel. I am not so sure that Whitner or Lynch will be gone. Gotta keep Lynch - we will only be able to run next year
beerme1 Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 probably safe but not 100%-Lynch (I think we would consider trading him for a 2nd but we just won't get an offer and are better off keeping him) Huh? I think we would be lucky to get a 4th for him. I also dont think we are better off keeping him. He is not worth the carnival he brings. And I wonder with the knowledge that he will be a fulltime backup to Freddie how he will react. Will he decide to get high? Contemplate shhoting someone? Get drunk and run people over? Or will he strive to be the best that he can be, accept the hand given to him and show up and be a good teamate? My guess is you will still find him hanging around a gas station in Lackawanna. Trade him or cut him. We will be better served without him.
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 If we trade/cut him, we would have to replace him. We can't go into a season with just jackson. Sure, runningback is one of the easier things to fix. But the last thing this team needs is another thing to fix.
peteski Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 The thing is...if ..i mean when we go to a 3-4...ellison wont hold up, he is just too small. Whitner would provide depth, but what if this FO wants to make a statement? Would Ellison make a good safety?
Pat7s Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Gone: Ralph Wilson. Not to be morbid but we're playing a game here so there's my thought. also Denny, McCargo, everyone who played right tackle this year, Hamden, Fitz, Parish, Reed, Ellison
Steely Dan Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 My guesses. Most often wrong but what the hell; Offense; Safe; Edwards, Fitzpatrick, Brohm, Bell, Levitre, Hangartner, Wood, Butler, Meridith, Lynch, Jackson, Evans, Johnson, Josh Reed (will be re-signed) Nelson, Hennessey, McIntyre and Hardy Gone; Inognito (not disciplined enough), Parrish, Omon, Defense; Safe; Schobel (comes back if team runs a 4-3 or splits time with 3-4/4-3), Stroud, Williams, Mitchell, Poz, Wendling, Wilson, Byrd, Whitner, McGee, McKelvin, Corner, Lankster, Johnson and Florence. Gone; Ellis (finally), McCargo, Corto, Safe; Moorman and Lindell JMO
Steely Dan Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Would Ellison make a good safety? Why? The Bills are loaded at that position. JMO
Paup 1995MVP Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 I dont mean this in a nasty way...can you explain to me what makes whitner good? I just dont see it. I think he talks the talk...you know the rest. Youboty is always hurt..and back to what nix said..its a tough mans game and you have to be tough. We have players that dont play thru injury. The reason we have been bad for so long is exactly because guys like Donte Whitner are on the team. He SUCKS plain and simple. The guy is just not a good athlete. He is small, can't cover anyone, has no ball instincts, and gets injured every year because he gets beat up playing in the box because he is TOO SMALL. I may be harsh, but anyone who thinks he is even remotely above average has not watched his play over the past 4 years, and compared it to other safeties around the league. I see no reason whatsoever that he is back. He is in the last year of his contract. No way we give him an extension. He just has NO upside. I agree about Youbouty.. He is ALWAYS hurt. We can replace him with Lankster and Corey Harris. It is time we upgrade all positions that do not have studs in them. And that definitely means Whitner is gone. He is worse than Byrd, Wilson and Scott. An upgrade at the strong safety position would be nice, with Scott and Wilson providing depth.
billsfan_34 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Posted January 31, 2010 Would Ellison make a good safety? Not fast enough...cant cover the top and wont be quick enough to come from left field and support the run.
billsfan_34 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Posted January 31, 2010 Gone: Ralph Wilson. Not to be morbid but we're playing a game here so there's my thought. also Denny, McCargo, everyone who played right tackle this year, Hamden, Fitz, Parish, Reed, Ellison Ah...Parish..I forgot about him! He def may be gone.
billsfan_34 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Posted January 31, 2010 The reason we have been bad for so long is exactly because guys like Donte Whitner are on the team. He SUCKS plain and simple. The guy is just not a good athlete. He is small, can't cover anyone, has no ball instincts, and gets injured every year because he gets beat up playing in the box because he is TOO SMALL. I may be harsh, but anyone who thinks he is even remotely above average has not watched his play over the past 4 years, and compared it to other safeties around the league. I see no reason whatsoever that he is back. He is in the last year of his contract. No way we give him an extension. He just has NO upside. I agree about Youbouty.. He is ALWAYS hurt. We can replace him with Lankster and Corey Harris. It is time we upgrade all positions that do not have studs in them. And that definitely means Whitner is gone. He is worse than Byrd, Wilson and Scott. An upgrade at the strong safety position would be nice, with Scott and Wilson providing depth. Amen!
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