papazoid Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 i doubt the bills will use either.... Quarterback: $16.405 million [franchise tag], $14.546 million [transition tag] Defensive end: $12.398m, $10.193m Offensive line: $10.731m, $9.142m Linebacker: $9.680m, $8.373m Cornerback: $9.566 m , $8.056 m Wide receiver: $9.521m, $8.651m Running back: $8.156m, $7.151m Defensive tackle: $7.003m, $6.353m Safety: $6.455m, $6.011m Tight end: $5.908m, $5.248m Punter/kicker: $2.814m, $2.629m http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...mbers-revealed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtobrint Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The franchise tag price on defensive tackles is startlingly low. Quality nose tackles are invaluable to 3-4 defenses. Top level NT set to become UFA aren't going to see the open market this offseason with the cost to franchise them so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Belt Nights Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The franchise tag price on defensive tackles is startlingly low. Quality nose tackles are invaluable to 3-4 defenses. Top level NT set to become UFA aren't going to see the open market this offseason with the cost to franchise them so low. Could be the reason Wilfork is upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I have no idea who the Bills would even think of franchising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I have no idea who the Bills would even think of franchising. There isn't anyone on this roster worth Franchising outside of our friggin punter In fact we need to cut some of this dead weight loose and replace it with guys we would worry about keeping a few years down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I have no idea who the Bills would even think of franchising. We probably wont use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 If we use, it will be on TO only to get a draft pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 The franchise tag price on defensive tackles is startlingly low. Quality nose tackles are invaluable to 3-4 defenses. Top level NT set to become UFA aren't going to see the open market this offseason with the cost to franchise them so low. absolutely low for NT's.....thats why N.E. traded Seymour......they decided they were keeping Wilfork, who most likely will get tagged.....heck, they tagged cassell last year for about $15mil...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 There isn't anyone on this roster worth Franchising outside of our friggin punter In fact we need to cut some of this dead weight loose and replace it with guys we would worry about keeping a few years down the road i agree , except i would tag both Moorman and Lindell if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I have no idea who the Bills would even think of franchising. #20 in your program, #1 in your heart: Donte's INFERNO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 If we use, it will be on TO only to get a draft pick for him. Doubt it will happen. No one is going to give up a top pick for Owens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Can we franchise Myers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 If we use, it will be on TO only to get a draft pick for him. we would probably get stuck with him.....i don't think anyone is gonna pay T.O. $ 9.5 mil/yr. http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com/2010/01/...alo/#more-13072 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 There isn't anyone on this roster worth Franchising outside of our friggin punter In fact we need to cut some of this dead weight loose and replace it with guys we would worry about keeping a few years down the road When you have long term scouts like Modrak evaluating talent for the oganization you don't have to worry about the feeble talent which will be let go down the road. When the Bills felt they needed a big receiver a couple of years ago they drafted Hardy out of Indiana with their second round pick. Two years ago Bill Polian drafted Pierre Garcon out of Mount Union College with his 6th round pick and last year they took Austin Collie from BYU with his fourth round pick. Both Colt receivers are probably more accomplished and polished than the higher round pick in Hardy. What Bill Polian is a master at is not only selecting good players in the draft but getting excellent value out of the spots in which he drafts players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 When you have long term scouts like Modrak evaluating talent for the oganization you don't have to worry about the feeble talent which will be let go down the road. When the Bills felt they needed a big receiver a couple of years ago they drafted Hardy out of Indiana with their second round pick. Two years ago Bill Polian drafted Pierre Garcon out of Mount Union College with his 6th round pick and last year they took Austin Collie from BYU with his fourth round pick. Both Colt receivers are probably more accomplished and polished than the higher round pick in Hardy. What Bill Polian is a master at is not only selecting good players in the draft but getting excellent value out of the spots in which he drafts players. Collie and Garcon looked good out of the box because they have two outstanding coaches: their future HOF QB and OC Tom Moore. Take nothing away from the kids, they're good and made plays when it counted in the AFC Championship. Conversely, Buffalo drafted Hardy out of Indiana with the expectation he'd be the starter right away, which is absurd for rookie 2nd round WR's. They typically don't develop that quickly. The Bills fell in love with Hardy's measureables, but it belied the fact Hardy didn't run a NFL route tree, nor separated well in college. Now he can't even get on the field when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsZubaz Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Could be the reason Wilfork is upset Absolutely. If he gets slapped with this no question he will hold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Collie and Garcon looked good out of the box because they have two outstanding coaches: their future HOF QB and OC Tom Moore. Take nothing away from the kids, they're good and made plays when it counted in the AFC Championship. Conversely, Buffalo drafted Hardy out of Indiana with the expectation he'd be the starter right away, which is absurd for rookie 2nd round WR's. They typically don't develop that quickly. The Bills fell in love with Hardy's measureables, but it belied the fact Hardy didn't run a NFL route tree, nor separated well in college. Now he can't even get on the field when healthy. The Colts under Bill Polian are very accomplished in evaluating FOOTBALL players. Losing teams such as the Bills and Raiders prefer selecting ATHLETES and are seduced by their measurable physical attributes. The Raiders were impressed with the fact that JaMarcus Russell could throw the ball harder and farther than any other qb prospect. What they didn't factor in is that his accuracy is bad, he is lazy and his mental skills are very limited in a position that is more mental than physical. You bring up another excellent point that good teams coach up their players and they get better. Losing teams such as the Bills have fewer coaches and less talented coaches who are able to put their players in the best position to succeed. Teams such as the Colts, Steelers, Eagles and Patriots etc are consistently successful not only because they have the better players but they have better organizations. It starts with the owner and works down to the front office, scouting and coaching staffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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