bobobonators Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 trent dilfer won the super bowl, jim kelly didn't. do you take dilfer over kelly? brad johnson won a super bowl and had a long career with pretty good numbers. does he go into the hall too? LMAO at your argument.
todzilla Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 here's the list of QBs in the Hall whose careers began no later than 1965 (Namath) ... before that I didn't have a chance to see any of them: Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Bob Greise, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Joe Namath, Roger Staubach and Steve Young. which one(s) would you take Warner ahead of for Bills QB? none for me. i simply dont see him in that class This might be the dumbest of all your dumb posts, Moon, Namath, Griese, Aikman....none of those guys were demonstratively better than Warner. I love Kelly as much as anyone, but if you put Warner with the talent the Bills had, he may have done just as well. Not sure how he would run the no huddle, but he sure would be able to hit Reed and Lofton all day.
R. Rich Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Retarded conversation provoked by a contrarian hoping to get a rise out of people. Nobody on this board better defines the term "retarded contrarian" than Lori, that's for sure.
bobobonators Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 I would personally take Warner over Namath and possibly over Elway or Moon...but the HOF doesn't work that way.
MRW Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 In 13 postseason games, Warner has completed 2/3 of his passes for almost 4000 yards, with 31 TDs and 14 INTs. Those are some absolutely sick numbers and cement his case for the HOF in my opinion.
wide_right Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 This might be the dumbest of all your dumb posts, Moon, Namath, Griese, Aikman....none of those guys were demonstratively better than Warner. I love Kelly as much as anyone, but if you put Warner with the talent the Bills had, he may have done just as well. Not sure how he would run the no huddle, but he sure would be able to hit Reed and Lofton all day. oh really? running the no huddle in the buffalo winter? i call BS on that one. we had a glimpse of warner in an outdoot cold weather stadium with the Giants, and he stunk up the joint
bobobonators Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Wide Right....just stfu already. Warner is going in first ballot. Get the !@#$ over it and move on.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 oh really? running the no huddle in the buffalo winter? i call BS on that one. we had a glimpse of warner in an outdoot cold weather stadium with the Giants, and he stunk up the joint ok, lets say he cant run a no huddle in a blizzard. so what? that ONE criteria eliminates him from the HOF? then we should probably pull a lot of other great QBs out of the Hall too. it seems like you are desperately grasping at straws here
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Wide Right....just stfu already. Warner is going in first ballot. Get the !@#$ over it and move on. this is what i should have said
wide_right Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 ok, lets say he cant run a no huddle in a blizzard. so what? that ONE criteria eliminates him from the HOF? then we should probably pull a lot of other great QBs out of the Hall too. it seems like you are desperately grasping at straws here i was responding to someone who said he would do just as well as kelly with the bills offense. i think you need to calm down
Adam Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Kurt Warner is Hall of Fame caliber, but should not be inducted. Much like Sterling Sharpe, the body of work wasn't long enough
papazoid Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 watching his presser....my goodness....what a total class act !! as mentioned earlier, HOF for sure.......just probably not on first ballot.
truth on hold Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Wonder the odds he pulls a Favre and unretires?
KD in CA Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Wonder the odds he pulls a Favre and unretires? I'd say about the same odds as him getting his little minions to whine and cry to the NFL about getting hit by Saints defenders in the playoffs.
Albany,n.y. Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 oh really? running the no huddle in the buffalo winter? i call BS on that one. we had a glimpse of warner in an outdoot cold weather stadium with the Giants, and he stunk up the joint If you had a clue, you would know that when Warner was with the Giants, they switched to Eli Manning in mid November. Therefore just about the time the cold weather was starting at Giants stadium, Warner wasn't playing. So the only glimpse of Warner you could have had was of him sitting on the bench while rookie Eli Manning stunk up the joint. So don't call BS on something that you're BSing about.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Kurt Warner is Hall of Fame caliber, but should not be inducted. Much like Sterling Sharpe, the body of work wasn't long enough making it over a decade in the NFL isnt long enough? Sharpe played for 6 years, I agree that is too short for a WR. But 11-12 years for a QB who didnt even START that career until he was 27 seems long enough to me.
Booster4324 Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Which hall of fame > Bible-thumping? Men with wives who have mullets? Just saying. And here we have the real reason why many dislike Warner. OJ is in the HOF, which? When atheism becomes its own religion (fanatics) they pass over the line from rationality to sheer stupidity. Warner's stats clearly indicate first ballot, perhaps even if Brett retires as well.
CarolinaBill Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 Absolutely, 1st ballot Hall of Fame, the guy CHANGED THE GAME, he changed the way defenses line up and play every week. No doubt he gets in on the 1st try
Orton's Arm Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 really? i cant think of any. he's also not a guy that other teams were clamoring over to get. no, sorry folks, he doesn't have the intangibles of a HOF QB Um . . . I hate to say this . . . but if you can't think of anyone in the Hall of Fame that's worse than Warner, then you haven't been looking very hard. Kurt Warner averaged 7.9 yards per pass and has a 93.7 QB rating over the course of his career. Terry Bradshaw averaged 7.2 yards per pass and has a career QB rating of 70.9. Plus, Bradshaw was surrounded by offensive talent, including a great OL, amazing running game, and Hall of Fame WR Lynn Swan. So, yeah, if I'm building a team, and if I have to choose between Terry Bradshaw or Kurt Warner (with both guys in their primes), I know which one I'm picking. And it's not even close. A better comparison player to Warner would be Joe Montana, who had 7.5 yards per pass attempt and a career passer rating of 92.3. Warner threw for 32,000 career yards, as opposed to Montana's 40,000 yards. (Montana's career was longer.)
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