Lori Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 While most of the sportswriting world has already speculated that Kurt Warner's press conference, set for 3 p.m. ET Friday, will serve as his official retirement announcement, our own inside source informs me that Warner is definitely walking away. I've learned not to question his judgment. Which begs the question of Warner's legacy, of course. If you'd asked me about his Hall of Fame chances a year ago, I would have hemmed and hawed before saying that yes, he "probably" had a good chance to get in "someday." (Okay, so I hedge my bets.) Looking back, I wonder what I was thinking, because the two-time MVP looks like a first-ballot lock. Since The Associated Press started handing out Most Valuable Player honors in 1957, only six players have won the award more than once: Peyton Manning (4), Brett Favre (3), Jim Brown (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Warner. Brown, Unitas, Montana, and Young were each elected in their first year of eligibility. Manning and Favre certainly will be. Is there any valid reason to keep Warner out of that group? If there is, let's hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackemrack Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 i figured he would retire after getting knocked on his ass by the saints, but i would say warner's a first ballot hall of famer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 i figured he would retire after getting knocked on his ass by the saints, but i would say warner's a first ballot hall of famer. Just watching that hit was painful. I'm surprised he went back in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 While most of the sportswriting world has already speculated that Kurt Warner's press conference, set for 3 p.m. ET Friday, will serve as his official retirement announcement, our own inside source informs me that Warner is definitely walking away. I've learned not to question his judgment. Which begs the question of Warner's legacy, of course. If you'd asked me about his Hall of Fame chances a year ago, I would have hemmed and hawed before saying that yes, he "probably" had a good chance to get in "someday." (Okay, so I hedge my bets.) Looking back, I wonder what I was thinking, because the two-time MVP looks like a first-ballot lock. Since The Associated Press started handing out Most Valuable Player honors in 1957, only six players have won the award more than once: Peyton Manning (4), Brett Favre (3), Jim Brown (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Warner. Brown, Unitas, Montana, and Young were each elected in their first year of eligibility. Manning and Favre certainly will be. Is there any valid reason to keep Warner out of that group? If there is, let's hear it. 2X MVP - Check Super Bowl Winner - Check 3 Greatest SB Passing Performances - Check HOF - Absolutely!! That's my Take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 He is a first-ballot HOFer. The voters are insane at times but Warner has had a great 12 seasons. Won the MVP, won a Super Bowl and made the long-time joke of a franchise Cardinals relevant and had them within inches of winning it. And he did it with class and dignity. His rise to the NFL is a great story too. Sure-fire HOFer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 HOF, no question. I'm not sure about first ballot, but who really cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Guys a money qb in the playoffs, those missing years though are weird for a HOF guy. Not sure if he will go first ballot but he will get in for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The fact that many people had written him off after his concussion and fumbling problems, and that he came back and led another team to another Super Bowl is enough for me to say yes...Hall of Famer first ballot. And that's not taking into account all the other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 HoF... yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 While most of the sportswriting world has already speculated that Kurt Warner's press conference, set for 3 p.m. ET Friday, will serve as his official retirement announcement, our own inside source informs me that Warner is definitely walking away. I've learned not to question his judgment. Which begs the question of Warner's legacy, of course. If you'd asked me about his Hall of Fame chances a year ago, I would have hemmed and hawed before saying that yes, he "probably" had a good chance to get in "someday." (Okay, so I hedge my bets.) Looking back, I wonder what I was thinking, because the two-time MVP looks like a first-ballot lock. Since The Associated Press started handing out Most Valuable Player honors in 1957, only six players have won the award more than once: Peyton Manning (4), Brett Favre (3), Jim Brown (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Warner. Brown, Unitas, Montana, and Young were each elected in their first year of eligibility. Manning and Favre certainly will be. Is there any valid reason to keep Warner out of that group? If there is, let's hear it. absolute no question 1st ballot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Absolutely. If I had to pick a QB to win one game today I'd take Warner over anyone other than Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Minus his 2 wasted years in NFL, his 10 year stretch as a NFL QB is about as good as any QB in NFL history. He's a no doubter and a great story that was awesome to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 He is a first-ballot HOFer. The voters are insane at times but Warner has had a great 12 seasons. Won the MVP, won a Super Bowl and made the long-time joke of a franchise Cardinals relevant and had them within inches of winning it. And he did it with class and dignity. His rise to the NFL is a great story too. Sure-fire HOFer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 2X MVP - CheckSuper Bowl Winner - Check 3 Greatest SB Passing Performances - Check HOF - Absolutely!! That's my Take. my first thought was yes...but when you really look hard....not sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Absolutely. The gold standard for pocket passers in the post season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 He is a first-ballot HOFer. The voters are insane at times but Warner has had a great 12 seasons. Won the MVP, won a Super Bowl and made the long-time joke of a franchise Cardinals relevant and had them within inches of winning it. And he did it with class and dignity. His rise to the NFL is a great story too. Sure-fire HOFer IMO. 12 great seasons? year..team..pld/strd..Att/Com..yds..%..TD..Int..Rating 1998 St. Louis 1-0 11-4 39 .364 0 0 47.7 1999 St. Louis 16-16 499-325 4,353 .651 41 15 107.6 2000 St. Louis 11-11 347-235 3,429 .677 21 18 98.3 2001 St. Louis 16-16 546-375 4,830 .687 36 22 101.4 2002 St. Louis 7-6 220-144 1,431 .655 3 11 67.4 2003 St. Louis 2-1 65-38 365 .585 1 1 72.9 2004 NYG 10-9 277-174 2,054 .628 6 4 86.5 2005 Arizona 10-10 375-242 2,713 .645 11 9 85.8 2006 Arizona 6-5 168-108 1,377 .643 6 5 89.3 2007 Arizona 14-11 441-281 3,417 .623 27 17 89.8 2008 Arizona 16-16 598-401 4,583 .671 30 14 96.9 2009 Arizona 15-15 513-339 3,753 .661 26 14 93.2 not sure about that.... had 4 average to below average in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Not positive on 1st ballot -It may depend on other players (Favre?) retiring after this past season. Don't have to tell youz guyz there's plenty-o-great players already hoping to stay fresh on the ballots. Seems like Canton 1st-Xer's are a lock for at least 1 every year. Warner is absolutely HOF stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 While most of the sportswriting world has already speculated that Kurt Warner's press conference, set for 3 p.m. ET Friday, will serve as his official retirement announcement, our own inside source informs me that Warner is definitely walking away. I've learned not to question his judgment. Which begs the question of Warner's legacy, of course. If you'd asked me about his Hall of Fame chances a year ago, I would have hemmed and hawed before saying that yes, he "probably" had a good chance to get in "someday." (Okay, so I hedge my bets.) Looking back, I wonder what I was thinking, because the two-time MVP looks like a first-ballot lock. Since The Associated Press started handing out Most Valuable Player honors in 1957, only six players have won the award more than once: Peyton Manning (4), Brett Favre (3), Jim Brown (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Warner. Brown, Unitas, Montana, and Young were each elected in their first year of eligibility. Manning and Favre certainly will be. Is there any valid reason to keep Warner out of that group? If there is, let's hear it. If he played two more seasons he'd be on par with Kelly in terms of games played. Yet he's had more 30 TD seasons than Kelly, a better completion percentage and better QB rating. I'm pretty sure Warner has a better TD/game D and yards per game and of course he's also played a lot better in Super Bowls then Kelly ever did including won 1. So yeah Warner deserves to be in the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 12 great seasons? year..team..pld/strd..Att/Com..yds..%..TD..Int..Rating 1998 St. Louis 1-0 11-4 39 .364 0 0 47.7 1999 St. Louis 16-16 499-325 4,353 .651 41 15 107.6 2000 St. Louis 11-11 347-235 3,429 .677 21 18 98.3 2001 St. Louis 16-16 546-375 4,830 .687 36 22 101.4 2002 St. Louis 7-6 220-144 1,431 .655 3 11 67.4 2003 St. Louis 2-1 65-38 365 .585 1 1 72.9 2004 NYG 10-9 277-174 2,054 .628 6 4 86.5 2005 Arizona 10-10 375-242 2,713 .645 11 9 85.8 2006 Arizona 6-5 168-108 1,377 .643 6 5 89.3 2007 Arizona 14-11 441-281 3,417 .623 27 17 89.8 2008 Arizona 16-16 598-401 4,583 .671 30 14 96.9 2009 Arizona 15-15 513-339 3,753 .661 26 14 93.2 not sure about that.... had 4 average to below average in the middle I meant he played for 12 seasons and had a great career as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 While most of the sportswriting world has already speculated that Kurt Warner's press conference, set for 3 p.m. ET Friday, will serve as his official retirement announcement, our own inside source informs me that Warner is definitely walking away. I've learned not to question his judgment. Which begs the question of Warner's legacy, of course. If you'd asked me about his Hall of Fame chances a year ago, I would have hemmed and hawed before saying that yes, he "probably" had a good chance to get in "someday." (Okay, so I hedge my bets.) Looking back, I wonder what I was thinking, because the two-time MVP looks like a first-ballot lock. Since The Associated Press started handing out Most Valuable Player honors in 1957, only six players have won the award more than once: Peyton Manning (4), Brett Favre (3), Jim Brown (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Warner. Brown, Unitas, Montana, and Young were each elected in their first year of eligibility. Manning and Favre certainly will be. Is there any valid reason to keep Warner out of that group? If there is, let's hear it. Kurt Warner played in about 9 - 10 seasons' worth of games. Over the course of his career, he has 7.9 yards per pass attempt and a QB rating of 93.7. Joe Montana's career average was 7.5 yards per attempt and a rating of 92.3. Warner has led his team to the Super Bowl three times, including one win. He has the three highest single-game passing yardage totals in Super Bowl history. He's broken the 4500 passing yards mark twice in his career, including once with the Cardinals. He has the second-highest passing yards per game stat of any QB in NFL history (Peyton Manning is first). He has the most passing yards in any one postseason, ever, and is tied with Joe Montana for the most TD passes in any one postseason. He has the highest completion percentage in the playoffs in NFL history, and the second-highest QB rating in the playoffs (Bart Starr is first). He tied Dan Mario as the fastest player to pass for 30,000 yards. In 45.2% of the games he played, he passed for over 300 yards--a better percentage than any other QB in NFL history. If there's some reason this guy shouldn't be elected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot, I'd be very curious to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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