sharper802 Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Bills front runners for Vick??? http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors If they sign him I am done. From a football sense it is a dumb move. He's awful. And don't give me that mobile QB behind a bad offensive line cr@p. He was one of the most sacked QB's in the league before he was incarcerated. From a human sense it is appalling. I can't believe that Ralph would spend his last few years on this planet and the last few years the Bills are in Buffalo being linked to and defending human garbage.
EndZoneCrew Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Bills front runners for Vick??? http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors If they sign him I am done. From a football sense it is a dumb move. He's awful. And don't give me that mobile QB behind a bad offensive line cr@p. He was one of the most sacked QB's in the league before he was incarcerated. From a human sense it is appalling. I can't believe that Ralph would spend his last few years on this planet and the last few years the Bills are in Buffalo being linked to and defending human garbage. link?
Gibran Chandan Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 link? Just scroll down a little. It's paid-access only for the full article, but the gist of the headline is that we're rumored to be a candidate for Vick. It's a rumor. Wake me up if something actually happens, and I'll figure out how I feel about it then.
EndZoneCrew Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Just scroll down a little. It's paid-access only for the full article, but the gist of the headline is that we're rumored to be a candidate for Vick. It's a rumor. Wake me up if something actually happens, and I'll figure out how I feel about it then. read my message and see what I underlined on Sharper's post....thats what I want a link for
Gibran Chandan Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 My bad; didn't see the underlined part.
sharper802 Posted January 28, 2010 Author Posted January 28, 2010 Vick is not a terrible QB, a terrible human perhaps, but if you are honest with yourself he is about midpack in the current NFL. But for me its a tossup: Jerkoff Jesus Tebow on this team, or getting ready to play- the -Jesus card because I am a despicable human, Mike Vick.........hmmmmmmmm make mine a Donovan McNabb please! Fair enough he is a midpack QB. Is that even an upgrade from Trent or Fitzy considering the baggage he brings? And for Tebow I would love him on the Bills..... As our version of Tom Rathman or Mike Alstott. Line him up in the Wildcat from time to time. Just don't let him take a snap from under center and don't draft him before the fourth round...
Estro Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Bills front runners for Vick??? http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors If they sign him I am done. From a football sense it is a dumb move. He's awful. And don't give me that mobile QB behind a bad offensive line cr@p. He was one of the most sacked QB's in the league before he was incarcerated. From a human sense it is appalling. I can't believe that Ralph would spend his last few years on this planet and the last few years the Bills are in Buffalo being linked to and defending human garbage. With Ralph as owner, and Russ Brandon still owning partial control over this franchise (opposed to what some others believe) the stupidest of stupid is always possible. 9 out of 10 moves made by Ralph at this point in time end up as utter failures. Any common sense fan realizes nothing will change until Ralph is no longer the head man. The guy (presently) is an awful businessman who continues to hold back the franchise. I will add that I would be shocked if Buddy would make such a move, as I believe he knwos way better than to think Vick is a good idea in Buffalo. If it were to happen it would only be confirmation that Ralph and Russ are still calling shots and not Nix, and that nothing has changed at One Bills Drive after all.
XTC Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Fair enough he is a midpack QB. Is that even an upgrade from Trent or Fitzy considering the baggage he brings? And for Tebow I would love him on the Bills..... As our version of Tim Rathman or Mike Alscott. Line him up in the Wildcat from time to time. Just don't let him take a snap from under center and don't draft him before the fourth round... If they will cut out his tongue, I would accept your plan.
bkc Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of smoke aroung vick and the bills the dog things bothers the hell out of me and he is not a grear qb, but as a stop gap until we can get the right guy he would be an upgrade
purple haze Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Fair enough he is a midpack QB. Is that even an upgrade from Trent or Fitzy considering the baggage he brings? And for Tebow I would love him on the Bills..... As our version of Tim Rathman or Mike Alscott. Line him up in the Wildcat from time to time. Just don't let him take a snap from under center and don't draft him before the fourth round... Yes, he's an upgrade. He's accomplished more than either of the QB's we have combined. There is no baggage he brings if people don't create any.
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 read my message and see what I underlined on Sharper's post....thats what I want a link for funny.....
loyal2dagame Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Bills front runners for Vick??? http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors If they sign him I am done. From a football sense it is a dumb move. He's awful. And don't give me that mobile QB behind a bad offensive line cr@p. He was one of the most sacked QB's in the league before he was incarcerated. From a human sense it is appalling. I can't believe that Ralph would spend his last few years on this planet and the last few years the Bills are in Buffalo being linked to and defending human garbage. there are way worse people in the league than vick that are even more appalling............. from a human sense. leonard little, donte stallworth, ray lewis were all involved in the killing of people. not animals, but people. and then there's the dozens of cases of players beating the wife, girlfriend, ect. you talk about human garbage? these are the truest, Consistent with fact or reality, examples of human garbage
RocBillsfan Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Perhaps, ESPN is just doing what they do best create news and suggests Vick b/c Buffalo needs a viable temporary qb.... At the same time linking all the teams that could use a mobile qb. Just b/c it is a rumour doesnt mean anything.
cliffordhicks Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 why not. guy made a serious mistake and is now 1 yr through an nfl season. he knows where he stands. he will give back to the community. id take him. with a young qb as well...
Snapple Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 I am getting so sick of all this dog business, it has to stop!!! Are you a !@#$ing vegetarian?? Millions of Chicken's are slaughtered weekly, where is the remorse for them? They sit in a pen their whole lives being stuffed with hormones and then get their heads chopped off. But my god! Vick killed some dogs, and I own a dog! I'm never gonna let this stand He's a terrible human blah blah blah, what a crock of ****. Just get over it, he served his time let it be.
rstencel Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 I am getting so sick of all this dog business, it has to stop!!! Are you a !@#$ing vegetarian?? Millions of Chicken's are slaughtered weekly, where is the remorse for them? They sit in a pen their whole lives being stuffed with hormones and then get their heads chopped off. But my god! Vick killed some dogs, and I own a dog! I'm never gonna let this stand He's a terrible human blah blah blah, what a crock of ****. Just get over it, he served his time let it be. Its allot more than the dogs. He ran a interstate illegal operation for multiple years. Created and ran a cover business to hide the crimes. Placed illegal bets. Lied to the the face of both his employer and the commissioner when caught. Plus its not like he didn't have a history of shady activity before that with things like the bottle with hidden compartment with traces of drugs, and the whole Ron Mexico thing. Sure he most likely didn't kill any human beings, but he planned these crimes and carried them out over a long period of time. I agree that he has served some time for the crimes, and he has a right to move on with his life. But I do not think it should be in the NFL, and I will not support or spend money on any team that employees someone like him. Personal choice yes, but its allot more than letting dogs fight each other or torturing and killing the animals in my opinion.
DFL Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 I am getting so sick of all this dog business, it has to stop!!! Are you a !@#$ing vegetarian?? Millions of Chicken's are slaughtered weekly, where is the remorse for them? They sit in a pen their whole lives being stuffed with hormones and then get their heads chopped off. But my god! Vick killed some dogs, and I own a dog! I'm never gonna let this stand He's a terrible human blah blah blah, what a crock of ****. Just get over it, he served his time let it be. I don't believe the issue at hand has anything to do with ones eating habits, but rather the sense of right, wrong and everyday sanity. When's the last time you met someone who beat dogs to death, electrocuted dogs or drowned them. Hunters don't do that, sick people do. It's just not a healthy mind. He served his time, so he's good there and paid his judicial debt, but that has no bearing on the court of public opinion.
bisonbrigade Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 SAY NO TO THE DOG KILLER! Draft a QB and just keep Fitz in untill the rookie is ready.
rstencel Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 there are way worse people in the league than vick that are even more appalling............. from a human sense. leonard little, donte stallworth, ray lewis were all involved in the killing of people. not animals, but people. and then there's the dozens of cases of players beating the wife, girlfriend, ect. you talk about human garbage? these are the truest, Consistent with fact or reality, examples of human garbage Agree that Leonard little, donte stallworth killed a human which is a worse crime, but it wasn't like it was a planned crime. Especially with Donte, since he did sleep and thought he had the booze out of his system, and tried to make things right. Anyone could have accidentally hit someone, but very few people would have pulled the stuff that Vick did. I think the planned criminal organization with cover run over long period of time is a worse crime, because it hurt more people and put allot of money into hands of other criminals as well who most likely used that money for much worse crimes. Ray is different story and agree with you some what in that case. People that commits crimes like that should not be allow to be in positions like that I do not believe, but as long as people continue to support them they will be allowed to be. I have also chosen never to watch a game or support a team that Ray Lewis plays on, and have not watched any game that he or Vick have participated in, and have boycotted the corporate sponsors of both teams they have played for since they have come back. Does that make Vick a bad sign for Bills, I don't know. I hope they don't sign him, and don't think he is a good enough QB to overcome the drop off in physical talent that usually hits athletes when they hit 30. If they do sign him, I think they will be sorry both from economical standpoint, as he will become the face of the franchise, and in the win loss column, since think his best days are way behind him. He never was a great passer, or great at reading defences, but could hit the home run and was fastest player on the field most of the time. If he hasn't already, it is likely the speed and big play with feet ability are on decline. He was out of football for most of 3 years and on bench for most of last year, so he has some playing to do just to get back to the level he was at reading defences and feel for the pocket. He was injured almost every year he played due to his style of play, so likely will not make it through the year if he becomes a starter again. With all those negatives I don't think he is worth the loss of face and potential loss of fan base that would come with the signing. Yes the Eagles didn't take much of a hit, but he wasn't their starter or face of their franchise like would be if came here and was actually able to win the starting job.
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