Wham Rocks Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Why the lovefest for Condi? She's definately a crappy cabinet member, but it has little to do with those delicious pancakes and syrup she makes. What was the name of that memo? "Osama bin Laden determined to strike within US" or something equally as vague? LOL, easy mistake... its like forgetting to carry the one in long division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Well Belafonte called Colin Powell an Uncle Tom too. C'est la vie. It's probably not the first time. At least Belafonte can't be accused of racism. And anyone who's ever read Uncle Tom's Cabin knows that Tom was not a wimp but rather a devout Christian who trusted in his God, suffered much, never compromised his principles or integrity and went to his reward much too early. It's too bad that the name has been twisted to become a negative label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 I can't speak for whoever "these people" are, but I posted a critical comment regarding what he said. So I agree about the hypocrisy thing but don't see why it is being mentioned in response to my post. I assume you are planning to comment on the hypocrisy of those calling for this guy's head who have never been critical of all the right wing creeps I mentioned but just haven't got around to it? One could argue that it is hypocritical to comment on the hypocrisy of one side while ignoring the hypocrisy of those on the other side. This guy is a nobody from nowhere. I have never heard of him. As bad as he apparently is, people with huge audiences like Coulter and Limbaugh are of more concern to me when it comes to beyond the pale rhetoric. 130998[/snapback] You know as well as I do Mick that if Limbaugh or Savage had said this it would have been blown way out of proportion by the mainstream media. My point is that having witnessed a brutal campaign for the last two years, there is much more hate being spewed from the left and it is being accepted as the norm because it is directed at us evil conservatives. Howard Dean's campaign, Franken's Lies, Farenfatass 9/11, Kerry's "I'm not Bush" theme are all fine examples of the recent flurry of hatred. I think this comment is a worse personal attack than what Limbaugh said about McNabb, but hey that's just my opinion. Like you said, this guy is a nobody and in stark contrast Limbaugh had a big fat bullseye on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wham Rocks Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 You know as well as I do Mick that if Limbaugh or Savage had said this it would have been blown way out of proportion by the mainstream media. 131189[/snapback] If liberals had any talk show hosts with the kind of standing Limbaugh and Savage constitute, there'd be more of a story here. But its John Sylvester from Wisconsin... which means 95% of Americans have never heard of him until today. If he ever gets 10-20 million regular listeners, the stakes will be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 You know as well as I do Mick that if Limbaugh or Savage had said this it would have been blown way out of proportion by the mainstream media. My point is that having witnessed a brutal campaign for the last two years, there is much more hate being spewed from the left and it is being accepted as the norm because it is directed at us evil conservatives. Howard Dean's campaign, Franken's Lies, Farenfatass 9/11, Kerry's "I'm not Bush" theme are all fine examples of the recent flurry of hatred. I think this comment is a worse personal attack than what Limbaugh said about McNabb, but hey that's just my opinion. Like you said, this guy is a nobody and in stark contrast Limbaugh had a big fat bullseye on him. 131189[/snapback] Sorry, but I have heard this stuff from Limbaugh and the rest now for 12 years or so. I see no comparison at all. If Al Franken said it, I think it would get a lot of coverage but some nameless jerk on some radio station no one ever heard of? Savage had a gig on NBC didn't he? Rush in on the radion 24-7 and on tv plenty. I heard worse stuff at the game on Sunday but nobody cares what a nobody says. Limbaugh has a massive audience, hence the big fat bullseye, it is in proportion to his notoriety. Really, the right invented this stuff. Limbaugh predates anyone you can name on the left. I think the first book Franken wrote on politics was Rush is a Big Fat Idiot. It was a reaction to this kind of thing. I actually posted critical comments on what this goof said. I can't recall the last time I heard someone from the right on this board stand up against one of their own and call foul when this kind of stuff surfaces. More often, the posts are to defend or rationalize it. I love politics, I really do. I find the machinations of government, the aspirations, the battle of ideas to be endlessly challenging. I am almost ready to chuck that interest though because I just don't think I can stand arguing anymore with someone who thinks I am a baby killing, terrorist sympathizing, sodomite worshipping, America hating, kool-aid drinking commie. I have had my intelligence, my integrity, my profession, my patriotism and my sanity questioned, mocked and maligned. It is why so many people drift in and out of this board. They love a good discussion but those are almost impossible to have in this format where anonymity encourages the worst instincts. Before the civil war, there were ridiculously overheated debates that took place between political leaders on either side of the big issues. They were known as "fire eaters". Their divisive, bombastic and meansprited rhetoric made compromise increasingly impossible. That is what these people are, "fire eaters". How do I sit down and have a meaningful discussion with an eye towards common ground and possible compromise with someone who just spent their hard earned money on a book that claims that I am guilty of treason and believed every word of it? We could argue over who does it more or who started it but does that really matter? Who cares how the corpse of compromise got so cold? Fact is, it is dead, dead, dead. You are a racist, nazi, fascist, bible thumping, queer bashing, creationist zeolot and I am a baby killing, treasonous, christ hating pagan. Let's just leave it at that shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Great post Mick, and I am sincere when I say that. It's not going to stop me from listening to Savage on the way home but it's a great post nonetheless. I think we're all burned out on the last two years and I think it's because we care about the world more than your average Joe. Savage has been bitching for weeks that he's burned out and now his biggest target of criticism of late is that liberal George W. Bush. Crazy aint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Why the lovefest for Condi? She's definately a crappy cabinet member, but it has little to do with those delicious pancakes and syrup she makes. What was the name of that memo? "Osama bin Laden determined to strike within US" or something equally as vague? LOL, easy mistake... its like forgetting to carry the one in long division. 131090[/snapback] Just the facts man. Just the facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaInPhilly Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 This remark was stupid and offensive, but this guy has gotten tons of publicity from his stupid remark. Here is a link explaining why this term is so offensive: http://www.tolerance.org/images_action/12_answer.html Yes, I've been called this, and the "n" word too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 This remark was stupid and offensive, but this guy has gotten tons of publicity from his stupid remark. Here is a link explaining why this term is so offensive: http://www.tolerance.org/images_action/12_answer.html Yes, I've been called this, and the "n" word too. 132029[/snapback] You throw a plastic cup at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 It is disgraceful that this man was not at least suspended for a period of time and only allowed back on air when he was ready to give a proper apology. Such statements are repugnant from bongo Congo to medicine hat, liberal, conservative or in between, that he utters them on a small market station do not make the comments any less, plant the seeds of hate in two and they become four, in four they become eight, it is not a small thing to be respectful to each other. This remark was stupid and offensive, but this guy has gotten tons of publicity from his stupid remark. Here is a link explaining why this term is so offensive: http://www.tolerance.org/images_action/12_answer.html Yes, I've been called this, and the "n" word too. 132029[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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