Sisyphean Bills Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Pretty much skill-less as a pass rusher. Can't get off the line.
dgrid Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 wouldnt say that, saw him collapse the front of the pocket in NC game, altho a staright-forward bull rush, nothing fancy. I still dont think the Bills should draft him w/ a high pick tho.
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 wouldnt say that, saw him collapse the front of the pocket in NC game, altho a staright-forward bull rush, nothing fancy.I still dont think the Bills should draft him w/ a high pick tho. I meant in the Senior Bowl practices. Not the blind squirrel happenstances.
Armchair GM Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 I meant in the Senior Bowl practices. Not the blind squirrel happenstances. Funny cuz yesterdaysreport had him "imposing his will and collapsing the pocket with a bullrush."
garbag3man Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 I meant in the Senior Bowl practices. Not the blind squirrel happenstances. The reports yesterday were that he was simply imposing his will, and was immovable.
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 The reports yesterday were that he was simply imposing his will, and was immovable. Yeah, he's immovable. He doesn't move. Guys that don't move are useless as pass rushers. Unless the QB runs straight into them for a sack, of course. I already posted in this thread that he's a good space eater. There is no contradiction.
dgrid Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 I already posted in this thread that he's a good space eater. There is no contradiction.
papazoid Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 in the unlikely event Mt Cody was avail at our pick in the second round.......you would have to give serious consideration to drafting him......his current weight does not over rule his productivity on the field. dude was a beast. he is destroying centers in the senior bowl practices.... http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...0&genpos=dt
CountDorkula Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Yeah, he's immovable. He doesn't move. Guys that don't move are useless as pass rushers. Unless the QB runs straight into them for a sack, of course. I already posted in this thread that he's a good space eater. There is no contradiction. I dont care if he did move. If he ate a Patriot* or two i would be generally ok with it.
Thurman#1 Posted January 28, 2010 Author Posted January 28, 2010 in the unlikely event Mt Cody was avail at our pick in the second round.......you would have to give serious consideration to drafting him......his current weight does not over rule his productivity on the field. dude was a beast. he is destroying centers in the senior bowl practices.... http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...0&genpos=dt Here's a quote from the Senior Bowl practices: "Sliders Terrence Cody/DT/Alabama: Cody looked poorly conditioned on Monday, tipping the scales at a sloppy 370 pounds. During practice he quickly tired and struggled to keep pace with the rest of the linemen. He was pushed to the ground and handled by lesser opponents on a number of occasions." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/foot...nday/index.html And another: "Terrance Cody, in an homage to former teammate Andre Smith, showed up grossly overweight. NFLN pointed out that he had difficulties even setting up in his stance before the snap." http://www.battleredblog.com/2010/1/25/126...practice-report And another: Posted by: Ed Thompson at 01/27/2010 04:18 PM ET "Cody Limping Alabama DT Terrence Cody was limping a bit with what appeared to be a minor foot or ankle injury after finishing a one-on-one battle with an offensive lineman. He has stayed out on the field and is competing, but is stll limping between plays." http://profootball.scout.com/2/941359.html And another: "Posted by: Ed Thompson at 01/25/2010 04:53 PM ET Byers Shutting Down Cody USC offensive lineman Jeff Byers twice kept Alabama defensive lineman Terrence Cody tied up so long that Cody looked worn out after the second effort." http://profootball.scout.com/2/940846.html And another: "NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said that's a number that will not help the draft status of a prospect for whom conditioning is a primary concern. "It hurts. And it wasn't a clean 370," Mayock said. "How many quality snaps you get out of him is going to be directly proportionate to what kind of shape he's in." http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2...ize_is_a_w.html Ah, found a much more positive one, mixed but generally positive: "01/27/10 - Senior Bowl, Tuesday: Terrance Cody's sloppy build may draw sneers, but the big man is helping himself this week with his stout play inside. Teams knew he could hold the point against double-teams, but seeing him stuff the action on television is much different than watching him in person blow up plays before they even get a chance to begin. Cody clearly isn't the same dominant player at the end of practice that he is in the beginning, but if substituted often, he could quickly emerge as one of the league's better nose tackles. As a specialist, it might be too much to think he'll earn a first-round pick, but there is no way he'll get out of the second round if he comes in healthy at the Combine. - Rob Rang and Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com "01/27/10 - Senior Bowl, Wednesday: Focusing on the line play Wednesday, it became very clear that NFL interior offensive linemen won't be looking forward to the arrival of massive SEC tackles Terrence Cody (Alabama) and Dan Williams (Tennessee). Everyone knows about Cody's nickname, "Mount," because the 370-pound behemoth gave SEC offensive lines fits over the past two seasons after being a junior college All-American. However, he relies fully on his brute strength to win battles inside while his pass rush ability and lateral movement are limited. That pure power he uses overwhelmed centers Jeff Byers (Southern Cal) and Ted Larsen (N.C. State) nearly every time during one-on-one drills. Those guys will have help on Sundays, however, and veteran centers are much stronger. In fact, LSU's Ciron Black moved inside to guard (also lining up at right tackle) and fared very well against Cody in drills and team play. And these practices didn't show Cody's lack of stamina once in the action for a few consecutive plays. Still, the quick burst he shows and his ability to eat blocks and create piles inside will remind scouts of long-time space-eater Ted Washington, possibly garnering him the type of late first-round slot (especially by a 3-4 team looking for a nose tackle) Washington earned coming out of Louisville almost two decades ago. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com " http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...0&genpos=dt Not "the same dominant player at the end of practice that he is in the beginning, but if substituted often..." There you have it. You have to pretty much accept that this guy is going to need frequent substitutions, unlike Ted Washington, for instance.
PDaDdy Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 YA!....Screw this guy. We wouldn't want some fat, bloated, Vince Wolfork type future pro bowl run stuffer on our team....GOOD RIDDANCE!! Stopping the run is one of our defenses strengths!!!! We should be freakin ECSTATIC if this guy dropped to us in the 2nd round. Instant 3-4 defense if we end up going that route.
Thurman#1 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Posted January 29, 2010 in the unlikely event Mt Cody was avail at our pick in the second round.......you would have to give serious consideration to drafting him......his current weight does not over rule his productivity on the field. dude was a beast. he is destroying centers in the senior bowl practices.... http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...0&genpos=dt That link is a very mixed review.
Thurman#1 Posted January 29, 2010 Author Posted January 29, 2010 YA!....Screw this guy. We wouldn't want some fat, bloated, Vince Wolfork type future pro bowl run stuffer on our team....GOOD RIDDANCE!! Stopping the run is one of our defenses strengths!!!! We should be freakin ECSTATIC if this guy dropped to us in the 2nd round. Instant 3-4 defense if we end up going that route. Wilfork does a MUCH better job of keeping his weight in check, much better. He's also a better athlete, more explosive with a better body, according to Scott Pioli. http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/1/27/12...-pioli-compares Wilfork plays every down. Cody may not even play all of the running downs on the team he gets drafted by, because he might get too tired. I'm all for getting a big tough run stopper. I'd like one who could play more than about half the defensive plays in a game, though.
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Posted January 30, 2010 They said the same thing about Rogers out of Texas and Ngata out of Oregon. Even now many lineman struggle with weight in the off season. All he needs to be is competitive. He will learn his role as a DT and he will get into playing shape in camp. So when he lines up against his man, is he lazy or is he too competitive to be lazy? That's what matters most with guys like this. By his on field play I would say he's a competitive guy. Before the draft, Shaun Rogers weighed 320. Cody weighs 370. You don't think the circumstances are just a bit different?
Stealth Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Yeah who would want the 2nd coming of ted washington
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Posted January 30, 2010 Yeah who would want the 2nd coming of ted washington Me, me, me. The problem is that Cody isn't that guy.
Shamrock Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Before the draft, Shaun Rogers weighed 320. Cody weighs 370. You don't think the circumstances are just a bit different? Didn't he have like an ankle injury or something as well. I thought Detroit got a good pick at the time.
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted January 30, 2010 Posted January 30, 2010 Not "the same dominant player at the end of practice that he is in the beginning, but if substituted often..." There you have it. You have to pretty much accept that this guy is going to need frequent substitutions, unlike Ted Washington, for instance. Well, here's a thought and stop me if I'm crazy, if you get off the field in 3 plays like you're supposed to you can rest. IIRC Washington didn't play on most 3rd and mid to longs anyway so that's an automatic sub out on a regular basis.
Tiego29 Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 Wowz. What the hell did he eat over the 20 days? _______________________________ NFL Clothing & Gear:NFL Shopcoach outlet
DasNootz Posted February 1, 2010 Posted February 1, 2010 I'll wager my liver... which I'm very fond of... that Cody will not be available at the 41st pick.
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