John from Riverside Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Anybody care to comment and give their opinions on players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Beluga declared recently. He is the best run blocker of them all, and a big reason why I want him. His pass protection is ok, but I would be happier with him on the right side than left. As far as the second round goes, I dont think we find any LTs better than him though. I just hope we had an OL in the 2nd - because the value will be there and we have the luxary of being able to draft any position on the OL - as Butler/Wood can slide around. Okung in the 1st is my #2 choice behind only Suh. Okung and Beluga would give us the best young tackles around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Problem is that is RT tackle territory and we need a LT. Anybody care to comment and give their opinions on players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I cannot understand why people even care about the #9 pick. If the Bills are gonna get good they need to TRADE DOWN. We need to accumulate draft picks and a bunch of them and get more talent in here. One good OL will not help, we need OL, DL, LB and a bunch them plus maybe a WR. We can't get that all done with a handful of picks. Bail on the #9 and start gathering draft pick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I cannot understand why people even care about the #9 pick. If the Bills are gonna get good they need to TRADE DOWN. We need to accumulate draft picks and a bunch of them and get more talent in here. One good OL will not help, we need OL, DL, LB and a bunch them plus maybe a WR. We can't get that all done with a handful of picks. Bail on the #9 and start gathering draft pick!!! Our team is full of mediocre talent and you want to trade down and acquire more mediocre talent? We have a shot at a difference maker at 9. I don't want to give that up for 2 more middle of the road players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 That is one mistake the Bills have made repeatedly. Moving up for Losman and McCargo was horrendous. Not trading down to still get Whitner was stupid. Smart front office's like the Pats are always accumulating picks. The second round picks are gold, good players and non-first round money, leaves more $ for F/As and resigning your own vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Our team is full of mediocre talent and you want to trade down and acquire more mediocre talent? We have a shot at a difference maker at 9. I don't want to give that up for 2 more middle of the road players. Every remember the San Fran draft where they kept trading down and trading down????? They ended up with: Larry Roberts Tom Rathman Tim McKyer John Taylor Charles Haley Steve Wallace Don Griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Real Value in the 2nd: --Jon Asamoah OG Illinois --Bruce Campbell OT Maryland Value in the 2nd: --Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida Should Be There in the 2nd: --Jason Fox OT Miami --Selvish Capers OT West Virginia --Ciron Black OG LSU Could Be There Even in the 3rd: --Mike Johnson OG Alabama --Matt Tennant OC Boston College --Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Our team is full of mediocre talent and you want to trade down and acquire more mediocre talent? We have a shot at a difference maker at 9. I don't want to give that up for 2 more middle of the road players. Amen. We only need to address a few positions, but we need to hit on those. People get so obsessed with trading down. If the right opportunity is there and the guy(s) we want aren't, then sure. But otherwise we should take a player of value there that fills one of top needs (LT, QB). Every remember the San Fran draft where they kept trading down and trading down????? They ended up with: Larry Roberts Tom Rathman Tim McKyer John Taylor Charles Haley Steve Wallace Don Griffin When was that?? 1978??? No, actually, I don't remember that. I do remember the Browns continuously trading down last year and getting a center and some other below average talent. They had an awful draft. I also remember the Patriots trading down and trading down and missing their targeted player (Percy Harvin). They had a pretty good draft anyway, but then again, they're in a totally different position than we are. Chung, Brace, and Vollmer were all picks for the future. We have holes to fill now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Real Value in the 2nd:--Bruce Campbell OT Maryland So great a value that Bucky Brooks had us taking him ninth overall today. At least Kiper had him falling to 27, so it's at least plausible he would fall to the second round. The ninth pick in the second? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Beluga declared recently. He is the best run blocker of them all, and a big reason why I want him. His pass protection is ok, but I would be happier with him on the right side than left. As far as the second round goes, I dont think we find any LTs better than him though. I just hope we had an OL in the 2nd - because the value will be there and we have the luxary of being able to draft any position on the OL - as Butler/Wood can slide around. Okung in the 1st is my #2 choice behind only Suh. Okung and Beluga would give us the best young tackles around. I don't normally care about typos. but if you are talking to so highly of BULAGA, I'd expec you'd know how to spell his name. How many games of his have you even seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Animal Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Ancient Chinese Secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 there are at least 6 OT's that most mocks have going in the 1st round..obviously thos 6 are the best 6...this leaves about 4 OT's that might be 2nd or 3rd round talent...these are: 1st round: Russell Okung, Oklahoma State, 6-5 302 Trent Williams, Oklahoma, 6-5 318 *Anthony Davis, Rutgers, 6-6 325 *Bryan Bulaga, Iowa, 6-6 312 *Bruce Campbell, Maryland, 6-7 310 Charles Brown, Southern Cal, 6-5 292 2nd round: Jason Fox, Miami(fl), 6-6 314 Selvish Capers, West Virginia, 6-5 298 Kyle Calloway, Iowa, 6-6 322 Ciron Black, LSU, 6-5 322 out of all of these names I'd like to see Buffalo go after Anthony Davis in the first round, but if they do wait till round 2 then Jason fox is the guy...Capers is a RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 there are at least 6 OT's that most mocks have going in the 1st round..obviously thos 6 are the best 6...this leaves about 4 OT's that might be 2nd or 3rd round talent...these are: 1st round: Russell Okung, Oklahoma State, 6-5 302 Trent Williams, Oklahoma, 6-5 318 *Anthony Davis, Rutgers, 6-6 325 *Bryan Bulaga, Iowa, 6-6 312 *Bruce Campbell, Maryland, 6-7 310 Charles Brown, Southern Cal, 6-5 292 2nd rouind: Jason Fox, Miami(fl), 6-6 314 Selvish Capers, West Virginia, 6-5 298 Kyle Calloway, Iowa, 6-6 322 Ciron Black, LSU, 6-5 322 out of all of thnese names I'd like to Buffalo go after Anthony Davis in the first round, but if they do wait till round 2 then Jason fox is the guy...Capers is a RT Ciron Black? Any relation to Avion Black?? If so, I say we go after him hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I cannot understand why people even care about the #9 pick. If the Bills are gonna get good they need to TRADE DOWN. We need to accumulate draft picks and a bunch of them and get more talent in here. One good OL will not help, we need OL, DL, LB and a bunch them plus maybe a WR. We can't get that all done with a handful of picks. Bail on the #9 and start gathering draft pick!!! They can get good a whole lot faster if they pick the right QB at #9... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 They can get good a whole lot faster if they pick the right QB at #9... Not really - doesn't matter who lines up at QB - it's still tough to throw lying on your back... link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Amen. We only need to address a few positions, but we need to hit on those. People get so obsessed with trading down. If the right opportunity is there and the guy(s) we want aren't, then sure. But otherwise we should take a player of value there that fills one of top needs (LT, QB). When was that?? 1978??? No, actually, I don't remember that. I do remember the Browns continuously trading down last year and getting a center and some other below average talent. They had an awful draft. I also remember the Patriots trading down and trading down and missing their targeted player (Percy Harvin). They had a pretty good draft anyway, but then again, they're in a totally different position than we are. Chung, Brace, and Vollmer were all picks for the future. We have holes to fill now. [/quote Only need to address a few positions? I thought we had an anemic offense with no QB and a swiss cheese line and one of the worst run defenses in the league this past year. Should be no problem passing the Patriots and Jets in the division with just a few hits in the draft. Guess the Pats with their 3 no. 1s and 4 no.2s, they acquired through DEALING in the next two draft s wont be getting any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Amen. We only need to address a few positions, but we need to hit on those. People get so obsessed with trading down. If the right opportunity is there and the guy(s) we want aren't, then sure. But otherwise we should take a player of value there that fills one of top needs (LT, QB). When was that?? 1978??? No, actually, I don't remember that. I do remember the Browns continuously trading down last year and getting a center and some other below average talent. They had an awful draft. I also remember the Patriots trading down and trading down and missing their targeted player (Percy Harvin). They had a pretty good draft anyway, but then again, they're in a totally different position than we are. Chung, Brace, and Vollmer were all picks for the future. We have holes to fill now. Only need to address a few positions? I thought we had an anemic offense with no QB and a swiss cheese line and one of the worst run defenses in the league this past year. Should be no problem passing the Patriots and Jets in the division with just a few hits in the draft. Guess the Pats with their 3 no. 1s and 4 no.2s, they acquired through DEALING in the next two draft s wont be getting any better. Yeah, a few positions. QB, LT, LB. We need talent at those positions, not more mediocre players. If we're switching to a 3-4 then that obviously changes. I don't think the Patriots have three number one's. I think they have just one. But they do have three two's. And they've been dealing picks for YEARS, it wasn't just a product of last year's draft. They've ruled the draft for years, but most speculation was that they were gunning for Harvin and outsmarted themselves. And we aren't exactly in the same position as the Patriots. As I said, they drafted for the future. We don't have that luxury. Think more of Cleveland's draft and what a disaster that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Real Value in the 2nd:--Jon Asamoah OG Illinois --Bruce Campbell OT Maryland Value in the 2nd: --Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida Should Be There in the 2nd: --Jason Fox OT Miami --Selvish Capers OT West Virginia --Ciron Black OG LSU Could Be There Even in the 3rd: --Mike Johnson OG Alabama --Matt Tennant OC Boston College --Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin What, no love for Texas LT... Adam Ulatoski??? Can't decide if he looks more like Art Donovan or Curly Howard, but you know they'd love him in Cheektowaga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Real Value in the 2nd:--Jon Asamoah OG Illinois --Bruce Campbell OT Maryland Value in the 2nd: --Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida Should Be There in the 2nd: --Jason Fox OT Miami --Selvish Capers OT West Virginia --Ciron Black OG LSU Could Be There Even in the 3rd: --Mike Johnson OG Alabama --Matt Tennant OC Boston College --Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin Astrobot, I bow to your expertise on draft matters, especially this early in the process. Thanks for the research fodder. But mocks that I have seen don't have Bruce Campbell falling to the second. Did you mean the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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