Steely Dan Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 BTW, Many, many years ago I saw Mike and the Mechanics at FLPAC. I had bought one of Rutherford's solo albums and liked it. During the concert he said that the next song was off the solo album I had bought which made me "Woot". Mike turned my way and said; "Oh, you're the one who bought it."
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 The last very good effort. Trick of the Tail was OK, I guess. Then...junk. Phil Collins is an embarrassment. Phil Collins > Steve Perry?
Chandler#81 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 BTW, Many, many years ago I saw Mike and the Mechanics at FLPAC. I had bought one of Rutherford's solo albums and liked it. During the concert he said that the next song was off the solo album I had bought which made me "Woot". Mike turned my way and said; "Oh, you're the one who bought it." I confess. I bought it too. And like it. My missus met him when he played in a Lockport bar many years ago. She was 'invited' back stage with total disregard for the ring on her finger.. To the thread's question: better with Gabriel, IMO.
plenzmd1 Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Does anyboday else remember the Genesis tribute band called Pegasus? They used to play McVays on Niagara Street(at least I think that was the name). They did the full Genesis show, with all the costumes etc. Think I saw them at least two or three times in early 80 or 81..what I really remember is being so broke having to pull a Lynch and smuggle in beers. Anyways, they were pretty good..just wondering of other Genesis geeks went to those shows.
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Does anyboday else remember the Genesis tribute band called Pegasus? They used to play McVays on Niagara Street(at least I think that was the name). They did the full Genesis show, with all the costumes etc. Think I saw them at least two or three times in early 80 or 81..what I really remember is being so broke having to pull a Lynch and smuggle in beers. Anyways, they were pretty good..just wondering of other Genesis geeks went to those shows. I used to go see Over The Garden Wall at the Penny Arcade here in Rochester - a great tribute band from Toronto.
EDinRTP Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Better with Gabriel. Genesis with Phil wasn't too shabby either. And I'm hovering like a fly...waiting for a windshield on the freeway.
truth on hold Posted January 19, 2010 Author Posted January 19, 2010 Does anyboday else remember the Genesis tribute band called Pegasus? They used to play McVays on Niagara Street(at least I think that was the name). They did the full Genesis show, with all the costumes etc. Think I saw them at least two or three times in early 80 or 81..what I really remember is being so broke having to pull a Lynch and smuggle in beers. Anyways, they were pretty good..just wondering of other Genesis geeks went to those shows. I seem to remember a band called "805" that played a lot of Genesis.
Chef Jim Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 and then Now I like the old Genesis much better, I love Gabriel's theatrics. But I will say this whichever you say is better you must agree that they are very different.
The Poojer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 exactly....different doesn't necessarily mean worse...too many people seem rooted in history and consider any deviation from that as bad... But I will say this whichever you say is better you must agree that they are very different.
Chef Jim Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 exactly....different doesn't necessarily mean worse...too many people seem rooted in history and consider any deviation from that as bad... But you have to admit that Abacab suuuuuuuuucks.
truth on hold Posted January 19, 2010 Author Posted January 19, 2010 and then Now I like the old Genesis much better, I love Gabriel's theatrics. But I will say this whichever you say is better you must agree that they are very different. has any band ever experienced as much a drop off in musical integrity before? i know plenty of them get more commercial, but geez. question: what was the deal with gabriel shaving the middle of his head? kind of a reverse mohawk
The Poojer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 i am sure if i took the time to look, i could find something from gabriel era genesis that sucked...i am not going to let one or two songs from any of their eras...ant phillips, gabriel, w/hacket, w/o hacket, ray wilson, define the band that I like so much... But you have to admit that Abacab suuuuuuuuucks.
Chef Jim Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 i am sure if i took the time to look, i could find something from gabriel era genesis that sucked...i am not going to let one or two songs from any of their eras...ant phillips, gabriel, w/hacket, w/o hacket, ray wilson, define the band that I like so much... In my mind Abacab is only the best example of a whole string of songs that Genesis did that sucked after Gabriel left. They just went in a much more commercial direction and they lost me. But music is very subjective and those are just my opinions of course.
rastabillz Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 In totality the band hit an artistic peak with Gabriel culminating in the LLDOB. Foxtrot, and Selling England by the Pound were also prog rock materpieces. I thought the first 2 post Gabriel era albums Trick of the Tale and Wind and Wuthering were excellent albums in their own right and compare very favorably with the Gabriel era material. Things went downhill for me as a fan after guitarist Steve Hackket left the band. The followup album And then there were Three is not bad at all, very heavy in Tony Banks keyboards and overall melancholy feel. The single Follow You, Follow Me was preview of the popier sound the band would take in subsequent years. Duke is alright but Abacab to me was a fiasco and I lost interest them afterwards.
The Dean Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Phil Collins > Steve Perry? Excellent question, PF.
The Poojer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 steve perry was replaced by a glorified karaoke singer(yeah ok, that's a bit of a stretch)....never saw anyone from Over the Garden Wall, Pegasus, or 805 get that chance with Genesis...(Yeah I know this shoots the hell out of my rave reviews about my latest Yes concerts). Excellent question, PF.
Chef Jim Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 steve perry was replaced by a glorified karaoke singer(yeah ok, that's a bit of a stretch)....never saw anyone from Over the Garden Wall, Pegasus, or 805 get that chance with Genesis...(Yeah I know this shoots the hell out of my rave reviews about my latest Yes concerts). I was just going to bring up the Yes thing as I was reading your post. I hated Jon Andersons replacement and I hated it more when I found out Jon's health is ok and he was touring in Europe at the same time.
The Poojer Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 yeah, i invented a new rule that states you are allowed to be a hypocrite as long as you call yourself out on it... and i wasn't aware that Anderson was fakin' it...i thought he was out of commission for 2 years I was just going to bring up the Yes thing as I was reading your post. I hated Jon Andersons replacement and I hated it more when I found out Jon's health is ok and he was touring in Europe at the same time.
Chef Jim Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 yeah, i invented a new rule that states you are allowed to be a hypocrite as long as you call yourself out on it... and i wasn't aware that Anderson was fakin' it...i thought he was out of commission for 2 years I was under the impression he was out for good. But I saw Yes in SF on July 2nd I saw this on Anderson's website: Date: July 3, 2009 Venue: The Robin 2 Mount Pleasant, Bilston Wolverhampton WV14 7LJ www.therobin.co.uk Box Office Tel 01902-401211 I later found out that when Yes scheduled the tour they never even contacted him.
truth on hold Posted January 20, 2010 Author Posted January 20, 2010 steve perry was replaced by a glorified karaoke singer(yeah ok, that's a bit of a stretch)....never saw anyone from Over the Garden Wall, Pegasus, or 805 get that chance with Genesis...(Yeah I know this shoots the hell out of my rave reviews about my latest Yes concerts). i really like that new Arnel Pineda singer for Journey
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