XTC Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Frazier is the frontrunner because his only competition thus far is Perry. As you all know, lots more assistants will be rolling in this place in the coming weeks. Should the Vikings continue to win, I believe that Frazier's chances will grow dimmer and dimmer. When all the smoke clears, you will be shocked to learn that John Fox will be your new head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Frazier is the frontrunner because his only competition thus far is Perry. As you all know, lots more assistants will be rolling in this place in the coming weeks. Should the Vikings continue to win, I believe that Frazier's chances will grow dimmer and dimmer. When all the smoke clears, you will be shocked to learn that John Fox will be your new head coach. It seems everyone forgets this is RW we are talking about. The pay for HC comes from HIS pocket, not the tv revenue which has an arbitrary split with the players. He has that much less cash than he would, for evey dollar he spends on a HC. We are simply NOT going to get an experienced, winning HC, because IT WILL COST RW MORE MONEY. We are getting a coordinator for sure, because the only experienced head coach that would cost less to hire would be.... DJ!. No Billick, no Fox, no Cowher, put it out of your mind. Sorry to be blunt but I am reacting to 30 years of Bills history here, it is not like we don't have any idea what is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 It seems everyone forgets this is RW we are talking about. The pay for HC comes from HIS pocket, not the tv revenue which has an arbitrary split with the players. He has that much less cash than he would, for evey dollar he spends on a HC. We are simply NOT going to get an experienced, winning HC, because IT WILL COST RW MORE MONEY. We are getting a coordinator for sure, because the only experienced head coach that would cost less to hire would be.... DJ!. No Billick, no Fox, no Cowher, put it out of your mind. Sorry to be blunt but I am reacting to 30 years of Bills history here, it is not like we don't have any idea what is coming. Ralph is very old, his rainy days are all behind him. What is he saving for? I believe he wants a winner badly. Nix knows that they need someone with some HC experience to make this happen during Ralph's lifetime. He can afford a little drop in the bucket chump change...6-7 Mill with a nice extension that he won't get in Carolina will bring ol' Foxxy sniffin' around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ralph is very old, his rainy days are all behind him. What is he saving for? I believe he wants a winner badly. Nix knows that they need someone with some HC experience to make this happen during Ralph's lifetime. He can afford a little drop in the bucket chump change...6-7 Mill with a nice extension that he won't get in Carolina will bring ol' Foxxy sniffin' around. Then why reject Billick who is the single capable, experienced, available guy that has expressed an interest? I think the Cowher and Shanny offers were pure red herrrings so Brandon can later tell a bemused fan base that he tried. RW is 91, what do they say about old dogs again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Frazier is the frontrunner because his only competition thus far is Perry. As you all know, lots more assistants will be rolling in this place in the coming weeks. Should the Vikings continue to win, I believe that Frazier's chances will grow dimmer and dimmer. When all the smoke clears, you will be shocked to learn that John Fox will be your new head coach. jigga please.... stop posting such rubbish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Then why reject Billick who is the single capable, experienced, available guy that has expressed an interest? I think the Cowher and Shanny offers were pure red herrrings so Brandon can later tell a bemused fan base that he tried. RW is 91, what do they say about old dogs again? Something tells me that this whole Billick thing does not have legs...and never did. I have a hunch that Nix does not like the guy. Someone could probably connect the dots through mutual contacts and draw a yes or no on that one. I truly believe that that Brian and Marty stand a much better chance of getting hired than Frazier. Sure they said nice things about the guy but the Jets will be bounced out of the playoffs this weekend and when they are things will really heat up for young Brian IF Marty signs on in a significant advisory role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 jigga please.... stop posting such rubbish... More openings are going to happen, not to mention the USC factor...Carolina does not want Fox nor does Richardson want Cowher. If the Jags gig opens up look out! Cowher would inherit a decent D an above average QB and a great RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Something tells me that this whole Billick thing does not have legs...and never did. I have a hunch that Nix does not like the guy. Someone could probably connect the dots through mutual contacts and draw a yes or no on that one. I truly believe that that Brian and Marty stand a much better chance of getting hired than Frazier. Sure they said nice things about the guy but the Jets will be bounced out of the playoffs this weekend and when they are things will really heat up for young Brian IF Marty signs on in a significant advisory role. Money for Marty's advisory role= out of RWs pocket. Again, no go. Maybe Brian Schott is hired, but if so don't expect concrete consultancy role for Marty as that would COST MONEY. We really have to see the forest for the trees here, we are getting a coordinator as HC, and one who can go it alone. You are seeing a mirage, if you are seeing anything else as coach, in the Saharan desert that is RWs Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Money for Marty's advisory role= out of RWs pocket. Again, no go. Maybe Brian Schott is hired, but if so don't expect concrete consultancy role for Marty as that would COST MONEY. We really have to see the forest for the trees here, we are getting a coordinator as HC, and one who can go it alone. You are seeing a mirage, if you are seeing anything else as coach, in the Saharan desert that is RWs Bills You "could" be right but I seem to recall all of this talk about loose purse strings a few weeks ago...for the first time ever. My God as a Billionaire, you would think that Ralph wasn't blowing smoke about spending a tiny fraction of his fortune. Dan Snyder is a young man who has no trouble spending. Ralph Wilson is in fine shape and likely has another five years left in him, I think he knows he has one final shot before his health finally gives up the ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Money for Marty's advisory role= out of RWs pocket. Again, no go. Maybe Brian Schott is hired, but if so don't expect concrete consultancy role for Marty as that would COST MONEY. We really have to see the forest for the trees here, we are getting a coordinator as HC, and one who can go it alone. You are seeing a mirage, if you are seeing anything else as coach, in the Saharan desert that is RWs Bills he can pay for Marty by firing Modrak and Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Then why reject Billick who is the single capable, experienced, available guy that has expressed an interest? I think the Cowher and Shanny offers were pure red herrrings so Brandon can later tell a bemused fan base that he tried. RW is 91, what do they say about old dogs again? They rejected Billick because he is not a very good coach. If not for Ozzie Newsome's defense, he would have been far below .500 with the Ravens. He was brought in from the Vikings as an offensive guru, but failed to get Baltimore's offense above 14th in NINE years. He was even given control over drafting offensive personnel, and drafted Kyle Boller even though Ozzie Newsome did not want him. Furthermore, he completely lost control of his locker room before he was fired, and players were openly criticizing his ineptness. He's better than Jauron, but that's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 They rejected Billick because he is not a very good coach. If not for Ozzie Newsome's defense, he would have been far below .500 with the Ravens. He was brought in from the Vikings as an offensive guru, but failed to get Baltimore's offense above 14th in NINE years. He was even given control over drafting offensive personnel, and drafted Kyle Boller even though Ozzie Newsome did not want him. Furthermore, he completely lost control of his locker room before he was fired, and players were openly criticizing his ineptness. He's better than Jauron, but that's not saying much. Billick=better than you think. But I am not on his bandwagon. Why is all of this so hard to figure out? Rust belt teams like Buffalo and Cleveland need to adopt the old Pittsburgh philosophy. If you have a Carson Palmer or a Jim Kelly or a Tom Brady then sure, build your team around a 1 in 100 level of QB talent, otherwise follow the (old) Steeler model: Suffocating defense, smash-mouth running game, and either an average caretaker or gimmicky type of QB (think Slash) and voila! You have the recipe for a solid contender year in and year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 They rejected Billick because he is not a very good coach. If not for Ozzie Newsome's defense, he would have been far below .500 with the Ravens. He was brought in from the Vikings as an offensive guru, but failed to get Baltimore's offense above 14th in NINE years. He was even given control over drafting offensive personnel, and drafted Kyle Boller even though Ozzie Newsome did not want him. Furthermore, he completely lost control of his locker room before he was fired, and players were openly criticizing his ineptness. He's better than Jauron, but that's not saying much. Actually Newsome has said they invested the majority of their draft picks and free agents towards the defense because they believed Billick was good enough to get by offensively with whatever they gave him, which many seasons wasn't a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I have my heart set on Leslie Frazier. Seriously, I don't pretend to be an expert on coaching candidates but why is it everyone on Sirius NFL radio thinks Frazier is the next great head coach in the NFL and all of us think the guy is lame hire?? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I have my heart set on Leslie Frazier. Seriously, I don't pretend to be an expert on coaching candidates but why is it everyone on Sirius NFL radio thinks Frazier is the next great head coach in the NFL and all of us think the guy is lame hire?? PTR Greggo and Mike Mularkey, perhaps? Twice bitten now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Greggo and Mike Mularkey, perhaps? Twice bitten now... That's a really dumb reason. Look at all the successful first-time coaches in the NFL. The problem is the Bills track record hiring coaches. In which case it doesn't matter whether they are first-timers or not. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 That's a really dumb reason. Look at all the successful first-time coaches in the NFL. The problem is the Bills track record hiring coaches. In which case it doesn't matter whether they are first-timers or not. PTR You are going to get your wish it will be Frazzaier or some other coordinator dont worry your robot head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 You are going to get your wish it will be Frazzaier or some other coordinator dont worry your robot head It's not for lack of trying with Cowher. Short of talking his family hostage the Bills did all they could, not that you would ever believe it. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Actually Newsome has said they invested the majority of their draft picks and free agents towards the defense because they believed Billick was good enough to get by offensively with whatever they gave him, which many seasons wasn't a lot... Billick had one of the best LTs to ever play the game, and between 1999 and 2007, the Ravens spent 6 out of their 10 first round picks on offensive players. He never could develop a QB despite having players such as Todd Heap, Jamal Lewis, and Jonathan Ogden. Kyle Boller was also taken against his GMs wishes. Sure sounds to me like Billick !@#$ed up the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Greggo and Mike Mularkey, perhaps? Twice bitten now... So if you get dumped by two separate girls, you decide to give up on women entirely....? That's in essense what you and others are saying...two coordinators that had nothing in common (one was a defensive specialist, the other an offensive specialist) where one was fired and the other quit is a good indicator of a poor track record if we ever hire any coordinator again? Wrap your head around the logic....it's just odd that the majority of people here think Frazier is the worst HC candidate out there, while the rest of the league thinks he's one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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