dgrid Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 So now the Seahawks will have to interview another minority candidate for the Rooney Rule before they hire Carroll. Talk about token interview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I don't buy that as being his excuse unless he felt that the signing between the Seahawks and Carrol was imminent. Thats what a Seattle front office person told Mortenson according to him when he was on ESPN a little while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Thats what a Seattle front office person told Mortenson according to him when he was on ESPN a little while ago You're not understanding my point. I don't doubt that this was cited as his excuse, I doubt that it is in reality his excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I just don't see the draw, I simply don't. I know it's been argued to death over the last week, but when I look at Frazier I still see the amazing talent he has on Defense and think that any competent coach could put together a Top 10 Defense in Minnesota. Plus, the fact that Marvin Lewis didn't think enough of him to retain him makes me very nervous. If someone could sell me on him, I obviously would be willing to listen with an open mind. Good points. Ithink Perry would have been just as good a choice. Bring Back Perry , If this is where we are headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyrich Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Maybe Coach Frazier felt as if the Bills only gave him the interview to meet the Rooney rule which is why he is reported to be declining at this time any Seattle Seahawks overture. I know we can respond that we already met the Rooney requirement with interviewing Fewell, I think the Perry Fewell interview was conducted out of respect for his contribution to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quikchomp Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Maybe Coach Frazier felt as if the Bills only gave him the interview to meet the Rooney rule which is why he is reported to be declining at this time any Seattle Seahawks overture. I know we can respond that we already met the Rooney requirement with interviewing Fewell, I think the Perry Fewell interview was conducted out of respect for his contribution to the Bills. That doesn't make any sense. Regardless of why Fewell was interviewed by the Bills, the Rooney Rule was at that point satisfied. Interviewing Frazier does not satisfy the Rooney Rule for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Well Leslie Frazier DOES meet Buddy Nix's requirement of having previous head coaching experience... He was the first HC for 9 years for Trinity College (now Trinity International University) and built the football program from nothing. Anybody have insight as to how successful he was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Since '86 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 This is all going to come down to Cowher, the job is his if he wants it. Cowher decides it isn't for him and Frazier will be on our sideline foe 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Well Leslie Frazier DOES meet Buddy Nix's requirement of having previous head coaching experience... He was the first HC for 9 years for Trinity College (now Trinity International University) and built the football program from nothing. Anybody have insight as to how successful he was there? To put it frankly, the Trinity gig was so meaningless, that his promotion from there was DB's coach at University of Illinois. Essentially, DB's coach for an average NCAA football team > headcoach of "Trinity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 You're not understanding my point. I don't doubt that this was cited as his excuse, I doubt that it is in reality his excuse. Yes I understood your point Just saying thats what Mortenson said what Seattle told him. Doesn't mean its true like you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yes I understood your point Just saying thats what Mortenson said what Seattle told him. Doesn't mean its true like you said In other words, you didn't understand his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I just don't see the draw, I simply don't. I know it's been argued to death over the last week, but when I look at Frazier I still see the amazing talent he has on Defense and think that any competent coach could put together a Top 10 Defense in Minnesota. Plus, the fact that Marvin Lewis didn't think enough of him to retain him makes me very nervous. If someone could sell me on him, I obviously would be willing to listen with an open mind. Frazier isn't my first choice for head coach. But I think you are selling him a little short. The Vikes have been the #1 run defense in a row like 4 straight years. The DC is definitely a huge part of selecting the talent to go on those teams. Frazier supposedly was the one who pushed to get Allen. Additionally, the Vikes have hit homeruns on a lot of defensive players in the draft (Williams, Greenway, Henderson, Edwards). I have to believe Frazier is a big part of that process. Additionally, and people I think miss this, the main job of the head coach is oversee everything. Frazier doesn't have to be great at offense or STs. He has to get the right guys for the job. Dungy was a good head coach because he got the right guys and let them do their jobs. Jauron's main problem was the he trusted the wrong people and first time coordinators. If Frazier does have a serious plan with guys he can get on board, I'm sure the Bills would be impressed. Again, I'm still hoping for Cowher because he is proven. But the bottomline is nothing is guaranteed. So I'll be disppointed if we don't get the Chin and Frazier instead. However, for better or worse (and it's been for worse), I'll give the chosen guy a chance to prove themselves beofre saying I will never be a Bills fan again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Mort just said that Fraizer turned down the job because he knew it was just a courtesy to fill the Rooney rule. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 In other words, you didn't understand his point. No im sure I did understand it. But thanks for checking in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I only had to read the first 3 posts to know that I don't need to read the rest. Apparently he "only wins because he has good players." You could literally say that about every winning coach in the league. You know this guy is one of the most highly regarded Coordinators in the league right? All of you Cowher or bust people are retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Mort just said that Fraizer turned down the job because he knew it was just a courtesy to fill the Rooney rule. Makes sense to me. They need to cover the Rooney rule somehow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Jersey Bills Fan Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 If we put percentages on the reason he turned it down, I would say: 25% insult to Rooney Rule 25% Preparing for playoffs 50% Next Buffalo Bills Head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yes I understood your point Just saying thats what Mortenson said what Seattle told him. Doesn't mean its true like you said Maybe this will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Maybe this will help. And this applies to my post how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 But why are people bumming of Frazier? He is considered an excellent candidate. He's not another meathead Mullarkey. I get it. We all want Cowher. Well what do we do if Cowher says no? PTR We all go on baseless rants that the Bills are a joke and Ralph is too cheap to hire anyone good. The HC search was all just a farce to try and sell tickets. Nothing will ever change because Ralph is the Ralph for Ralph's Ralph, Ralph. Haven't you been paying attention for the last few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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