BillsFanNC Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 For a beer thread, this is a pretty bad one. Everyone who said a lager, should be eliminated. Bottom fermentation = win. As KRC already pointed out lagers are bottom fermented, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss lagers, at least the classic european lagers. A nice clean lager is very difficult to brew consistently well versus many ale beer styles. There is nowhere to hide any imperfections as you can in a big IPA, porter or stout. While I agree with most that macro lagers are largely swill, I do have to give them credit for engineering their breweries on such a large scale and still brewing a very consistent, albeit crappy product. From looking at this thread, it seems like you guys really don't get teh chance to experience many of the fantasitc west coast beers. I hate to say it, but the west coast is where its at for microbrewing. We have a few decent ones in Texas, but outside of Abita, Allagash, and Dogfish Head, pretty much all of the great beers come from the west coast. Green Flash and Alesmith are two of my favorite breweries. I'll agree that west coast beers largely drove the microbrewing revolution and I love beers from Green Flash, Bear Republic, Russian River etc., but there are so many great midwest and east coast breweries now. Bells, Founders, Victory, Avery, Great Divide and New Glarus off the top of my head. And to stay on topic, my favorite beer is a west coast beer. The ultimate double IPA, Pliny The Elder for Russian River Brewing.
Hazed and Amuzed Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 Could it also be the name of a sleeveless shirt? I think we have a weiner!
Chilly Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I'm confused. Lagers are bottom fermented. Am I missing something? No, I missed something - an exclamation mark to be in fact. I meant to type != win, but in my drunken state I missed it. lol.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Spaten Oktoberfest Amber Ale... Sam Adams' Octoberfest... generally going well when it's October. Seems like we have similar taste in beers. Here are 4 of my favorites in no particular order. SkullSplitter Highland Gaelic Ale San Adams Octoberfest Abita Amber
Chilly Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 As KRC already pointed out lagers are bottom fermented, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss lagers, at least the classic european lagers. A nice clean lager is very difficult to brew consistently well versus many ale beer styles. There is nowhere to hide any imperfections as you can in a big IPA, porter or stout. While I agree with most that macro lagers are largely swill, I do have to give them credit for engineering their breweries on such a large scale and still brewing a very consistent, albeit crappy product. I absolutely agree. The consistency that Budweiser, Miller, Labatt, etc achieve are amazing. And there are definitely some good examples of that style of beer. The problem with lagers, though, is you can't generally do too much with them. You've got a few specific styles, and that's about it. There are some cool things being done with dunkle lagers, but outside of those, they're kinda boring. All the interesting brewing where brewers are experimenting is generally done from ales (wheat beers, IPAs, brown ales, stouts, porters, etc). I'll agree that west coast beers largely drove the microbrewing revolution and I love beers from Green Flash, Bear Republic, Russian River etc., but there are so many great midwest and east coast breweries now. Bells, Founders, Victory, Avery, Great Divide and New Glarus off the top of my head. And to stay on topic, my favorite beer is a west coast beer. The ultimate double IPA, Pliny The Elder for Russian River Brewing. I would have thrown breweries from Colorado into the west coast, but they are more mid-west, aren't they? I love some Avery, Great Divide, and Breckenridge. Colorado has some awesome breweries. Yeah, there are definitely some good east coast breweries. Throw Abita, Harpoon, and Allagash into that list as well, and of course Dogfish Head, who makes some of the most interesting beers I've ever had (and are, by far, my favorite brewery). I do think, though, that some of the local California brews that I've had beat the East Coast ones. I just wish I could get breweries like AleSmith here in Texas!
mead107 Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Not sure who is making it but, Charlton House Irish Red is very good. My son Matt and his friend TJ have come up with some very good home brew.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I absolutely agree. The consistency that Budweiser, Miller, Labatt, etc achieve are amazing. And there are definitely some good examples of that style of beer. The problem with lagers, though, is you can't generally do too much with them. You've got a few specific styles, and that's about it. There are some cool things being done with dunkle lagers, but outside of those, they're kinda boring. All the interesting brewing where brewers are experimenting is generally done from ales (wheat beers, IPAs, brown ales, stouts, porters, etc). I would have thrown breweries from Colorado into the west coast, but they are more mid-west, aren't they? I love some Avery, Great Divide, and Breckenridge. Colorado has some awesome breweries. Yeah, there are definitely some good east coast breweries. Throw Abita, Harpoon, and Allagash into that list as well, and of course Dogfish Head, who makes some of the most interesting beers I've ever had (and are, by far, my favorite brewery). I do think, though, that some of the local California brews that I've had beat the East Coast ones. I just wish I could get breweries like AleSmith here in Texas! All good calls I've enjoyed products out of all of those breweries. From Avery - Karma Ale Breckenridge - Avalanche Abita - Amber Ale Harpoon - Octoberfest Dogfish Head - 60 minute IPA Not saying that the other breweries listed aren't good, just haven't experienced their products.....YET.
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