PushthePile Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 if you take pride in knowing coordinators from teams you are not a fan of from 10+ years ago you need help. serious help. Pride? I think any casual fan knows who Marvin Lewis and Rex Ryan are.
Max997 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 if you take pride in knowing coordinators from teams you are not a fan of from 10+ years ago you need help. serious help. you mean the DC of one of the best defenses of all time who almost became head coach of the Bills? yeah I can see how no one here would remember his name seriously, just bc you cant remember shjt doesnt mean no one else can...maybe you should put the pipe down and save some cells
PushthePile Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Yeah, but he had the culpepper/moss combo. True but every very successful coach has to have talent.
Guest three3 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 The problem with your argumentation, as some other rational people have pointed out is that you used false info to make a point when in fact, the reality of the situation that you falsely describe could be seen as a positive for Billick as he seemed to bring on 3 successful d-coordinators in a row when they were taken from his staff. Not bad, eh? You don't need to be a computer geek to realize the imbecility of your claims. did he hire all the defensive coordinators? if you know, you live a sorry and very sad life. my point, as i have stated multiple times, is that he was brought in because of his offensive prowess. his offenses were far from good in baltimore. baltimore's offense was the team's vulnerability. everyone seems to overlook that point and jumps to the fact that i was off by a few years with the ravens defensive coordinators, ok i was wrong with the timeline. billick's offense was not good. that is my point.
bkc Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 he was in a good situation. he had a good GM, good defensive players and a good defensive coordinator throughout his time there. the one thing he was brought in to do (offense) he pretty much failed at doing. yet you people want him to coach the bills, a team sorely needing an offensive mastermind perhaps the d was so good because that was were the talent was. I don't recall him having much talent to work with. On the other hand he had talent in minny and he produced
Max997 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 True but every very successful coach has to have talent. Cam Cameron did a pretty good job with a rookie QB, rookie RB and an aging WR last year for the Ravens good coaches can do more with less
John from Riverside Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 However Billick does have a record of putting something good together in Minnosota correct? I think that a lot of people are losing site of what a HC does........ - He isn't supposed to be running the O and the D.....he is a deligates if his assistants are good. - He doesn't have the final say on his players....so if there is someone who knows talent in the GM spot he is given talented players to coach - The quality of free agents he is given to coach has a lot of say as well He has more success as a head coach (regardless of what you think of his O and game mgt skills) then we have seen in a DECADE Yes....I would take him
Chick Marmelade Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 if you take pride in knowing coordinators from teams you are not a fan of from 10+ years ago you need help. serious help. You're a tool three, and a dull one at that. Don't you have a list of everyone that beat you up a the bus stop to review maniacally that you need to get to??
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 billick's offense was not good. that is my point. But you said he had a good GM! Why did that GOOD GM give him crappy qbs to work with? Did the great GM think that Billick was so amazing he could turn a pile of **** into a franchise QB?
Guest three3 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Pride? I think any casual fan knows who Marvin Lewis and Rex Ryan are. i am sure everyone has memorized the exact years that they served as baltimore's defensive coordinator. of course. that is what we all do all day, isn't it? memorize NFL coaching staff timelines from a decade ago, yes, there surely is value in memorizing the coordinator timelines of the balitmore ravens. that is what gives value to life
Guest three3 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 But you said he had a good GM! Why did that GOOD GM give him crappy qbs to work with? Did the great GM think that Billick was so amazing he could turn a pile of **** into a franchise QB? he had talent on that offense. he couldn't do much with it
PushthePile Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Cam Cameron did a pretty good job with a rookie QB, rookie RB and an aging WR last year for the Ravens good coaches can do more with less Cam Cameron did a nice job last year with a decent amount of talent. They had an awesome o-line and a stable of capable backs. That's a pretty good start.
bkc Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Cam Cameron did a pretty good job with a rookie QB, rookie RB and an aging WR last year for the Ravens good coaches can do more with less the d on those Ravens team was one of the best untis ever . The deal was run the ball , make no mistakes and win .
DanInUticaTampa Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 he had talent on that offense. he couldn't do much with it What talent was that? I don't remember. You seem to though. What were the offensive superstars of the ravens with Billick's superbowl team?
Guest three3 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 You're a tool three, and a dull one at that. Don't you have a list of everyone that beat you up a the bus stop to review maniacally that you need to get to?? actually, that is the type of thing that you losers would devote time to. you obviously have your priorities straight: what matters in life is knowledge of coordinators from a decade ago. that is what it is all about, isn't it?
Max997 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Cam Cameron did a nice job last year with a decent amount of talent. They had an awesome o-line and a stable of capable backs. That's a pretty good start. Billick had a lot of the same players the year before....how did that work out?
PushthePile Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 i am sure everyone has memorized the exact years that they served as baltimore's defensive coordinator. of course. that is what we all do all day, isn't it? memorize NFL coaching staff timelines from a decade ago, yes, there surely is value in memorizing the coordinator timelines of the balitmore ravens. that is what gives value to life I will remember the ones that coordinate all-time great units. Look buddy you made an error. No need to insult everyone else who remembered correctly.
Chilly Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 I've got to wonder how much of the offensive problems in Baltimore were Billick, and how much of it was other factors. If you look at 2006, when Billick took over play-calling after firing Fassell halfway through, and they had an old Steve McNair at QB, they finished #12 in the NFL at 23pts/game. I think the problem might have been the whole organization's inability to find a solid QB.
Guest three3 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 What talent was that? I don't remember. You seem to though. What were the offensive superstars of the ravens with Billick's superbowl team? i seem to remember a decent qb by the name of trent dilfer. a good running back by the name of jamal lewis. those are not bad players, in fact jamal lewis was a beast back then. who else was on that offense? ben coates? i take a little pride in not knowing who else was on it. if you have that type of stuff memorized you aren't getting much quality out of your life
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