Endzone Animal Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Forget about Tebow; what the Bills need is a QB from California. I'm thinking Tavita Pritchard would be perfect.
ThreeBillsDrive Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Tebow could thrive in the CFL game with it's larger field and advantage that premium the game places on quarterbacks with running ability.
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 if the bills draft a qb it will be bradford, mallett or clausen and possibly lefevour in rd 2
Endless Ike Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Cincinatti looks like a division 3 team...Tebow is a **** sandwich
billsfan89 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Don't let one game change your opinion of the guy. I have a feeling that Tebow will fall somewhere between the late 1st round and early 2nd round. The highest I see him going is mid 1st while the latest I see him falling is mid 2nd round. I think that Tebow needs the right situation to be successful. Tebow needs to be drafted to a team that won't start him right away. I think that Tebow needs to sit the bench for 2 seasons to learn a system and come in on a team that is built to be in a winning situation. Tebow can't start on a rebuilding team like Buffalo. Honestly Jacksonville is a great fit for Tebow. Jacksonville just drafted 2 tackles along the O-line, has Gerrard at QB and he seems like he has a season or two left in the tank so Tebow won't be rushed in, Jacksonville has a decent D in place so Tebow won't need to put up huge points if called upon, and Jacksonville has a good running back in Jones-Drew so they don't need to pass a whole lot. I think Jacksonville will end up taking Tebow in round 1 in order to appeal to Florida fans BUT if they really want Tebow to be successful they will sit him for at least a season in order to get him ready to play in the NFL and take pressure off him.
thewildrabbit Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 The wise thing to do "IF" you draft Tebow would be to install that Gator offensive scheme and let him run it IMO. I wouldn't mind Urban Meyer as the Bills head coach, the guy is a winner. Tebow has that horrid long wind up like Byron Leftwich, that is a huge disadvantage. It telegraphs his throws and NFL DB's will eat him alive. NFL QB's need to be trained to hold the ball with two hands above the shoulder when passing, so he needs some development.
Cru Jones Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 his mechanics suck right now, but that is the ONLY knock on him. all he needs is to correct his release. Just like byron Leftwich fixed his release??? Of course he was quick on his reads, he only has one read! his second read is to run. I wont say he didnt make some nice throws, but good high school QBs should be able to hit wide open WRs with no pressure. I hate that you people who are blind to this are making me hate a really good human being.
billsfan89 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 The wise thing to do "IF" you draft Tebow would be to install that Gator offensive scheme and let him run it IMO. I wouldn't mind Urban Meyer as the Bills head coach, the guy is a winner. Tebow has that horrid long wind up like Byron Leftwich, that is a huge disadvantage. It telegraphs his throws and NFL DB's will eat him alive. NFL QB's need to be trained to hold the ball with two hands above the shoulder when passing, so he needs some development. Exactly why I think he needs to sit the bench for a year or 2 to learn a system and work on his throwing mechanic. There have been QB's in the NFL that have shortened their release point a bit throughout their careers so if you can get a coach who will work with him while a vet holds down the fort I think Tebow might have a future in the NFL. As I said I think Tebow just needs the right situation to be an NFL QB. If Tebow gets drafted as a starter on a rebuilding team he will get eaten alive and his confidence will get shattered. There are a lot of flaws to his game that will get exposed if he isn't in the right situation. He does have a lot to work with if you build him up right.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Exactly why I think he needs to sit the bench for a year or 2 to learn a system and work on his throwing mechanic. There have been QB's in the NFL that have shortened their release point a bit throughout their careers so if you can get a coach who will work with him while a vet holds down the fort I think Tebow might have a future in the NFL. As I said I think Tebow just needs the right situation to be an NFL QB. If Tebow gets drafted as a starter on a rebuilding team he will get eaten alive and his confidence will get shattered. There are a lot of flaws to his game that will get exposed if he isn't in the right situation. He does have a lot to work with if you build him up right. How many QB's come out of College with NO flaws? What will seperate Tebow from the others is his work ethic & the fact he has a passion for the game unlike some who would rather spend the offseason playing golf.
billsfan89 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 How many QB's come out of College with NO flaws? What will seperate Tebow from the others is his work ethic & the fact he has a passion for the game unlike some who would rather spend the offseason playing golf. Throwing motion is a huge flaw to have also Tebow could just be a product of being on a great team as well. And give me a break with all this he cares and has passion BS most NFL QB's care about winning a lot and probably just as much as football Jesus Tim Tebow. With few exceptions you don't get to be a QB in the NFL without working hard and caring about winning.
thewildrabbit Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 How many QB's come out of College with NO flaws? What will seperate Tebow from the others is his work ethic & the fact he has a passion for the game unlike some who would rather spend the offseason playing golf. This is exactly right Tebow is a gym rat and very dedicated, it makes so much difference. Many many QB's enter the NFL and need to work on their mechanics, footwork is usually the biggest problem, holding the ball properly above the shoulder and keeping the chest and hips square to the target is another. The thing is, if the QB coach is not very good it will reflect on how well the QB develops. Any new QB wanna get it right, just watch the master of mechanics and the most dedicated QB to his craft I've ever seen, Payton Manning.
John Adams Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Watch him wind up before he throws. Major talent all around him. He has bust written all over him. Quit being so impressed by quarterbacks surrounded by great talent. It will almost always fool you Ryan Leaf and Jeff George had two of the best arms I've ever seen. Jim Kelly had poor mechanics. Joe Montana had no arm strength. 31-35, 482 yards...3 TDs and 1 rushing TD. I have no idea how Tebow will be as an NFL QB and neither do you but he did that against an undefeated team. This is your moment to be quiet.
dorquemada Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 i agree. i think its ridiculous to scoff at Tebow just because of his current mechanics. all he needs is a good QB coach. i believe he already has the ability and determination to learn how to throw correctly, he's just never had to. You totally didn't get the memo! The TBD college football experts have declared Tebow TeH SUXorz! ESPECIALLY since he played on a team that won so many games and scored so many points! We would be better off picking a early/mid round "project" QB with a high IQ from an Ivy league school who never did anything! Come on, get with the program! How do you expect to continue the Bills' pattern of success by selecting achieving players!
Red Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 I'm still not sold on Tebow. I agree with the halftime assessment made by Jimmy Johnson. I do like his fiery demeanor, and like his swagger. What I do not like is the type of offense Florida runs and how it is not suited well to the Pro game. Tebow has nice touch on some of those short to intermediate passes, but his ball looks weak and wobbly when throwing over 30 yards. And as Johnson stated, his wind-up from such a low position will need to be corrected if he even hopes of staying alive on an NFL field. There are questions of whether or not he can handle the transition coming from the offense he does and with the mechanics that he has. It will be interesting to see what we do. One things for sure: I sure am sick and tired of striking out on QB's....
8-8 Forever? Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 I'd love to have Tebow as a developmental QB who can be used in short yardage situations, but he is a luxury this team can't afford with all the other needs. Pike doesn't have the arm strength to play in Buffalo. depending on ralphs health, that may not matter.
zow2 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Tim Tebow has had too many monster games in his career for anyone to write him off. He has played vs the best competition at the highest level. I'd be thrilled if he played here.
scribo Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 First off, I don't pay much attention to college football (I don't have the time), so I will presume you guys are correct about his big windup, inability to read zone coverages, etc. But what I don't understand is how this guy, who sounds like most posting in this thread see Tebow as way less than stellar, has won two national championships and a Heisman. He put up huge numbers yesterday, but that is dismissed by saying Cincinatti isn't any good -- yet, they were ranked #3? As for the whole thing about Tebow having all kinds of protection yesterday, I noticed at least one of his TDs yesterday was throw with defenders in his face.
Mickey Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 He makes his reads very fast and shows great touch on his passes. The long pass looked perfect as well. He's not going to make it out of the first round. He never looks like he is scared in any game, no matter what happens he looks like he is battling. He would be a good risk with some good upside. I am more convinced than ever that he is not an NFL QB after watching that game. The guy stares a hole through his receivers right from the snap and his release is as slow as molasses. More often than not he throws a flutter ball that in the winter winds of the Ralph will get blown around like lake effect snow. He will get eaten alive in the big leagues.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 Throwing motion is a huge flaw to have also Tebow could just be a product of being on a great team as well. And give me a break with all this he cares and has passion BS most NFL QB's care about winning a lot and probably just as much as football Jesus Tim Tebow. With few exceptions you don't get to be a QB in the NFL without working hard and caring about winning. B.S. MANY NFL QB's including Trent would rather spend the offseason working on their golf game than their football game. Tebow has a PASSION for FOOTBALL that Trent does not have & many others do not have. He also has a great work ethic so he will work on his flaws & get better. Even Jimmy Johnson & Brian Billick had to admit that Tebow is a GREAT College QB so he is not just the product of a great team. He will be remembered as one of the greatest College players EVER.
Mickey Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 First off, I don't pay much attention to college football (I don't have the time), so I will presume you guys are correct about his big windup, inability to read zone coverages, etc. But what I don't understand is how this guy, who sounds like most posting in this thread see Tebow as way less than stellar, has won two national championships and a Heisman. He put up huge numbers yesterday, but that is dismissed by saying Cincinatti isn't any good -- yet, they were ranked #3? As for the whole thing about Tebow having all kinds of protection yesterday, I noticed at least one of his TDs yesterday was throw with defenders in his face. History is absolutely littered with college QB's with great numbers, championships, awards, etc., who were colossal flops in the NFL. Tebow is simply the latest version of that. See, Toretta, Gino; Crouch, Eric; Ware, Andre; Wuerfel, Danny; Detmer, Ty.
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