jester43 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 AND PASSED OVER EVERY TIME... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 First, let's fire Modrak and Guy. Prior to a hire like this, I would have agreed. With a competent GM now in place, I feel better overall about the judgements that will be made with the football operations of the Bills. If that means firing both of them, then great. Get rid of them. If it means keeping Modrak and firing Guy, then I'm ok with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 LMAO typical lemming responses. As I said before, you guys will settle for anything. All of a sudden Nix is some outstanding stud when it comes to being a GM. Funny, he is 70 years old and NO ONE has offered him a GM gig before Buffalo did. Again for those that can't comprehend....we didn't' interview ANYONE outside this franchise! Hell call Ron Wolf, Charlie Casserly etal and at least interview them. Oh no we can't do that they would want too much power for Ralph's liking. As for as Buddy Nix, he was a scout here, big !@#$ing deal. He was #2 in SD....uh Ok so again what does AJ Smith do? Maybe Nix ran the drafts, maybe he didn't I would like definitive proof Nix and ONLY Nix was in charge of the draft and had FINAL SAY on the picks. I will say again, unless Modrak, Guy and the entire inept scouting department are canned, we are no better off. Nix can't scout everyone on his own and obviously our scouting dept can't find the right talent with both hands. For better or worse Buddy Nix is now GM of the Buffalo Bills. for those singing praises of his promotion, I feel you are putting way too much into the fact he has been a part of decent staffs, not the guy running it. But bottom line he is aledgedly running the show here so you better hope he is 1/2 as good as you lemmings make him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh and Wasn't Nix part of the team that drafted Maybin over Orakpo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh and Wasn't Nix part of the team that drafted Maybin over Orakpo? The question is, "Who was making the decisions in the war room?" Wilson likes to be involved, Brandon fancied himself a "football guy," and many people here feel Jauron had an inordinate amount of influence in personnel decisions That's possibly 2-3 people who had more say than Modrak or Nix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 So taking the guy who is in 2nd in command for one of the best oragnizations doesn't count??? Because that's what Nix was. How is hiring Nix any different than hiring the 2nd in command guy of the PAts, Eagles, Giants, Steelers, Colts? IMO, the Chargers have the best personnel department in the enitre league. And Nix was a huge part of that. Some people try too hard to find reasons to B word. Nothing against Buddy, but he retired and came out of it early this year? How many NFL GM's were pulled out of retirement and eventually headed an organization? At 68, he was the #2 in SD with no other team interested in making him their GM, despite several opportunities. The Falcons chose Tom Dimitroff over Nix not all that long ago. I know/knew a lot of people that are talented in a single area, but weren't cut out for management. And so they advanced to a certain level. Buddy Nix is probably a great scout and personnel director. Now he's in charge of a whole lot more. This isn't about complaining. It's constructive criticism of an organization, that as we all know, is 0 for its last 10 in playoff appearances. Pardon me for not trusting what they do. Now, if they hire Cowher, well fine. But that's not happening. I see them getting a Jim Fassel type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Prior to a hire like this, I would have agreed. With a competent GM now in place, I feel better overall about the judgements that will be made with the football operations of the Bills. If that means firing both of them, then great. Get rid of them. If it means keeping Modrak and firing Guy, then I'm ok with that too. At least you want John Guy gone once and for all, & that's cool.... but I want them both out of here. Buddy Nix will begin to impress me if/when he starts handing out pink slips left & right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Nothing against Buddy, but he retired and came out of it early this year? How many NFL GM's were pulled out of retirement and eventually headed an organization? well- there's always our last GM - Marv so we definitely have a pattern going (not a very successful one, but a pattern none the less) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 So much for cleaning house. You can bet Modrak and Guy are staying now and 'helping' with the draft. So that means the same assclowns are going to be making our Draft and FA picks. Modrak and Guy are gone. Nix danced all around that question; they're gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 At least you want John Guy gone once and for all, & that's cool.... but I want them both out of here. Buddy Nix will begin to impress me if/when he starts handing out pink slips left & right. When he fires Guy, Modrak, and/or Overdorf, it will signal something new. And, when he hires a proven HC. Until that time, I won't believe he even has the authority to do anything more than handle personnel. It is the Bills after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickie do-right Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Buddy Nix is a great choice. Build thru the draft and draft players that will fit your system (very important). Free agency is for medium price short term fix type of players. The money saved for the above goes to retain your core players (how many good players have we let go and not resign) He mentioned you build a team for the North East (big, strong and fast) no more smurf DE's/LB's He will build a team to run, stop the run, and have a QB with a very strong arm. Wins will be ugly not pretty (but don't we want to win) An OC/DC that are great teachers WHAT IS NOT TO LIKE --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 For the record, Marv Levy said many of the same things that Nix did today nearly 4 years ago. Those are widely spoken about theories. Actually doing that is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 When he fires Guy, Modrak, and/or Overdorf, it will signal something new. And, when he hires a proven HC. Until that time, I won't believe he even has the authority to do anything more than handle personnel. It is the Bills after all.Yeah, I want to see serious change, not just a reshuffling of assignments. I have no problem with his credentials. His age is a little bothersome, but I think that's more a reaction to the Levy disaster than anything.. I would've liked someone younger, but at least he appears to be very well connected, which this team badly needs. Now, please use those connections to get some good, quality new faces in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Nothing against Buddy, but he retired and came out of it early this year? How many NFL GM's were pulled out of retirement and eventually headed an organization? At 68, he was the #2 in SD with no other team interested in making him their GM, despite several opportunities. The Falcons chose Tom Dimitroff over Nix not all that long ago. I know/knew a lot of people that are talented in a single area, but weren't cut out for management. And so they advanced to a certain level. Buddy Nix is probably a great scout and personnel director. Now he's in charge of a whole lot more. This isn't about complaining. It's constructive criticism of an organization, that as we all know, is 0 for its last 10 in playoff appearances. Pardon me for not trusting what they do. Now, if they hire Cowher, well fine. But that's not happening. I see them getting a Jim Fassel type. Fair enough and I do understand the frustation I truly do. I obviously don't live in the negative as much as some but I get whole hardedly where you are coming from. But if Nix was picked from SD this year by teh Bills, that won't be a good hire? Dimitroff has done a good job but he also has a great owner and the luxury of having a franchise QB fall in his life. Guys get passed over all the time and become successful later on. AJ Smith didn't get his job until Butler died. This didn't make him any less qualified. And the Cowher talk is great but what if he hires a successful coordinator. If you look around the league, most of the good teams are coached by 1st time coordinators. I know we both want to the Bills to be successful and have different ways of expressing it. You're more cynical than I am and that's fine. But i think giving a the job to a guy who has be a part of one of the most successful drafting teams is a good start. Time will tell but Wilson had no problem giving Polian and TD full control. If he says it's Nix's team, I have no problem believing him. Here's to 2010 and non-crappy Bills football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 28 Chargers drafted by Nix went to Pro Bowls in just four years (2004-07). He sucks! Should have been 50 players. Not to mention finding 3 time Pro bowl OG Kris Dielman, who played DEFENSIVE line at Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 For the record, Marv Levy said many of the same things that Nix did today nearly 4 years ago. Those are widely spoken about theories. Actually doing that is another matter. I support Levy more out of hope than anything. But his experience in the NFL department isn't close to Nix's. Nix is a quote-quote football guy. "The only way I could be more of a football guy is if I live longer... I'll be here seven days a week, whatever it takes. I'm not trying to build a resume, I'm not trying to build a legacy. Every decision that we make that I have anything to do with will be to help us win." - Buddy Nix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=76008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=76008 That's crap. They are just biased Bills homers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 LMAO typical lemming responses. As I said before, you guys will settle for anything. All of a sudden Nix is some outstanding stud when it comes to being a GM. Funny, he is 70 years old and NO ONE has offered him a GM gig before Buffalo did. Again for those that can't comprehend....we didn't' interview ANYONE outside this franchise! Hell call Ron Wolf, Charlie Casserly etal and at least interview them. Oh no we can't do that they would want too much power for Ralph's liking. As for as Buddy Nix, he was a scout here, big !@#$ing deal. He was #2 in SD....uh Ok so again what does AJ Smith do? Maybe Nix ran the drafts, maybe he didn't I would like definitive proof Nix and ONLY Nix was in charge of the draft and had FINAL SAY on the picks. I will say again, unless Modrak, Guy and the entire inept scouting department are canned, we are no better off. Nix can't scout everyone on his own and obviously our scouting dept can't find the right talent with both hands. For better or worse Buddy Nix is now GM of the Buffalo Bills. for those singing praises of his promotion, I feel you are putting way too much into the fact he has been a part of decent staffs, not the guy running it. But bottom line he is aledgedly running the show here so you better hope he is 1/2 as good as you lemmings make him out to be. Who, that we could realistically get, did you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Who, that we could realistically get, did you want? Someone from his Madden game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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