Cru Jones Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I cant believe i never heard of this till just now http://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/11/sports/p...r-contract.html whats interesting is that if he had played out the contract he would have easily started over Dilfer and got his revenge on the Giants in SB XXXV
billsfan89 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I cant believe i never heard of this till just now http://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/11/sports/p...r-contract.html whats interesting is that if he had played out the contract he would have easily started over Dilfer and got his revenge on the Giants in SB XXXV I never heard that either I wounder what went wrong. Did Kelly change his mind? Did the Ravens not want him? Did Kelly want too much money or something? It makes sense because the Ravens had such a dominant D and needed a QB to anchor the offense and Kelly at age 38 was probably one if the best guy available via free agency. I wounder if Kelly quarterbacked the team would they have still won the SB over the Giants? I think Kelly at age 40ish (With a year or two of retirement/rest) would have been better then Dilfer or would it have been a failure?
moovemtooelay Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 that would have literally broke my heart
sharper802 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly was done the year he reitred(14TD 19INT 73.2 QB rating). He was mistake prone and slow to deliver the ball. Man it is incredible to see how many picks he actually threw each year. Take away 1990 and I am not sure he makes the HOF. Could he have won with that defense? Sure so could just about everyone. Actually that Ravens team can be blamed for the downfall of many franchises. One frickin team with arguably the best defense EVER wins the SB with one of the worst QB's EVER to start a SB and that became the model for how to win a championship. Just manage the game.... Not even Tom Brady year one managed the game. He won them. Maybe Roethlisberger's first SB come close.
bbb Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I remember that well. Jimbo and Marv's retirements were very similar it seemed to me.....I don't think it was really their choice to retire. I remember Jimbo got something like a $1M per year or maybe one time payoff to be a consultant.........I always thought either one of them would have been ready to come back to the NFL.
Nanker Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 He tried to go to the Stealers too. They didn't want him.
Kettle Creek Football Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I cant believe i never heard of this till just now http://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/11/sports/p...r-contract.html whats interesting is that if he had played out the contract he would have easily started over Dilfer and got his revenge on the Giants in SB XXXV Kelly wanted to play for Marchibroda. But, mainly due to his son's health at the time, he thought it best to spend time with his family.... at least that's how I remember this played out.
DC Mom Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly wanted to play for Marchibroda. But, mainly due to his son's health at the time, he thought it best to spend time with his family.... at least that's how I remember this played out. Yeah, he flirted with the idea and I think it was kind of a mutual decision in the end from both the teams and him to stay retired.
Doc Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly was done the year he reitred(14TD 19INT 73.2 QB rating). He was mistake prone and slow to deliver the ball. Man it is incredible to see how many picks he actually threw each year. Take away 1990 and I am not sure he makes the HOF. Could he have won with that defense? Sure so could just about everyone. Actually that Ravens team can be blamed for the downfall of many franchises. One frickin team with arguably the best defense EVER wins the SB with one of the worst QB's EVER to start a SB and that became the model for how to win a championship. Just manage the game.... Not even Tom Brady year one managed the game. He won them. Maybe Roethlisberger's first SB come close. Brady most certainly managed his first SB. And as the saying goes, "defense wins championships."
Nuncha Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I cant believe i never heard of this till just now http://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/11/sports/p...r-contract.html whats interesting is that if he had played out the contract he would have easily started over Dilfer and got his revenge on the Giants in SB XXXV Ted Marchibroda was the head coach in Baltimore at that time....he wanted Kelly. Kelly thought about it briefly then said he couldn't see himself as anything but a Buffalo Bill......Of course he ended up staying retired.
Metal Man Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly wanted to play for Marchibroda. But, mainly due to his son's health at the time, he thought it best to spend time with his family.... at least that's how I remember this played out. Wasn't he actually talking about playing for the salary to go directly to Hunter's Hope as well? I remember something about that being his main motivation for wanting to come back and play.
Bill from NYC Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Brady most certainly managed his first SB. And as the saying goes, "defense wins championships." Ultimately this is true, whereas if a team pitches a shutout in the Superbowl, said team wins. In terms of being a good team and making the playoffs, balance is needed ino.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly was terrible at the end of his career. He could barely move and was very mistake prone. If he extended his career, it would have been an absolute disaster. he made the right call.
TheMadCap Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Wasn't he actually talking about playing for the salary to go directly to Hunter's Hope as well? I remember something about that being his main motivation for wanting to come back and play. This is what I remember as well, although, it could have been just rumor. But I do remember there being conversation about this very issue...
DarthICE Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I cant believe i never heard of this till just now http://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/11/sports/p...r-contract.html whats interesting is that if he had played out the contract he would have easily started over Dilfer and got his revenge on the Giants in SB XXXV Yep came damn close to becoming one too.
Metal Man Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly was terrible at the end of his career. He could barely move and was very mistake prone. If he extended his career, it would have been an absolute disaster. he made the right call. He definitely was slowed down a bit with age and some of the beatings he took. To be fair though IIRC that was when the o-line really started to deteriorate for the Bills and that season he was sacked almost 40 times. I'm sure lack of mobility didn't help, but I would have thought he could have had a couple productive seasons left in him playing with a good team behind a solid line.
billsfreak Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I cant believe i never heard of this till just now http://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/11/sports/p...r-contract.html whats interesting is that if he had played out the contract he would have easily started over Dilfer and got his revenge on the Giants in SB XXXV I remember that, in fact it was real close to him signing but he changed his mind at the last minute. The main reason that he almost went there was the connection between himself and Ravens head coach Ted Marchibroda, the mind behind the K-Gun.
billsfreak Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Kelly was terrible at the end of his career. He could barely move and was very mistake prone. If he extended his career, it would have been an absolute disaster. he made the right call. I think terrible is a little overstated. He wasn't what he was a decade earlier, but he did lead the Bills to a home playoff game that year, although he got knocked out cold against the Jags in the Wild Card game.
Doc Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Ultimately this is true, whereas if a team pitches a shutout in the Superbowl, said team wins. In terms of being a good team and making the playoffs, balance is needed ino. Of course you need a good offense. You can't expect to win if your defense gives up few points but your offense scores fewer.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I think terrible is a little overstated. He wasn't what he was a decade earlier, but he did lead the Bills to a home playoff game that year, although he got knocked out cold against the Jags in the Wild Card game. Maybe terrible is a little harsh but he was bad. He threw 5 more INTs than tds, had a 73 QB rating, and took sacks at a higher rate than any time in his career. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm We were a lower middle offensive team and a top 10 defense one. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1996.htm
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