State of Michigan Takes Illinois to Supreme Court

[DC Tom]

If the other 999,999 are any worse. I don't want to hear them

 

999,997. Learn to count, conner.

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999,997. Learn to count, conner.

 

You presented one response and said you have a million of them

 

I responded to that one. 1,000,000-1 = 999,999

 

Are you regressing towards the mean?

[ExiledInIllinois]

A carp summit? Sounds fishy to me. They'll probably just flounder around a lot and not accomplish anything. Still, I may attend just for the halibut.

 

 

I got a million of em...

 

You might not want to attend, it could get pretty ruffe. You'd probably want to sea what happens first, it would be good for your sole. What do I know, I am just a dumb pollock.

 

Holy mola... The thread took a bleak turn.

 

[DC Tom]

You presented one response and said you have a million of them

 

I responded to that one. 1,000,000-1 = 999,999

 

Are you regressing towards the mean?

 

One response. Three jokes. Friggin' moron.

 

 

(Of course, I use the word "jokes" very loosely.)

[ExiledInIllinois]

Here is an interesting article from June of 2009 on how the carp are already dieing off on the MO/MS/OH rivers:

 

Asian Carp Facing Starvation

 

Still:

 

"Since silver carp jump out of the water, sometimes injuring those they hit, Chapman said it is important to keep them out of lakes where people enjoy recreational boating."

 

 

And hear was an comment that somebody left below the article, maybe Michigan should call Tony!:

 

 

 

Tony Nagberi June 8, 2009 | 2:46 p.m. According to World Health organization 30 45 million people in Africa depend on fish for their livelihood. Fish is an indispensible source of micronutrients such as Iron, Iodine, calcium, Zinc, Vitamin A and Vitamin B African countries need. Asian carp may be the solution. Asian carp may be a blessing to 3rd world countries.

 

 

 

Asian Carp Fish, Inc a Minnesota based company can help with the control of Asian Carp. The state provides the funds to commercially harvest and process the fish. We provide storage and transportation to Africa and 3rd world countries. Lots of starving people in Africa and 3rd world countries will be too happy to eat the fish. Create employment and economic growth. Our contact information

 

763-843-5550.

Tony Nagberi- Minnesota

[ExiledInIllinois]

Amen to this:

 

A couple of Illinois Businessmen are angling for $20-million in government grants to pay fishermen 15-cents a pound to harvest the Asian Carp. Their plants would then turn the fish into food, fertilizer and other products. John Holden and a partner would build 8 processing plants along the Mississippi and Illinois Rivers and then attempt to over-fish the carp into extinction, or at least reduce their numbers to the point where they are no longer a threat to the Great Lakes. So far the businessmen have a few nibbles but no bites.

Asian carp offer opportunity for entrepreneurs

 

Metroplanning BlogPost

 

"...We should create a market for carp products. The Asian carp is high in omega-3 fatty acids, a common health supplement. They also can be processed into cat food, fertilizer, and a dietary supplement for livestock. They can be fed whole to zoo animals. They can be eaten by people, but because they are somewhat bony, are a bit tricky to eat. Nonetheless, a few intrepid fishermen on the Illinois River have been able to supply traditional Asian-food markets in Chicago, New York, and other cities.

 

The problem is Illinois lacks much of the infrastructure – fishing fleets, rendering plants, canning facilities – that the East, Gulf, and West coasts have. So we should invest in that infrastructure. The State of Illinois could subsidize start-up costs for these industries as a way to jumpstart the market. Then the private sector can sell carp products, while the state waives sales taxes and launches an aggressive marketing campaign. Great chefs can find a way to serve them up, the Lincoln Park polar bear can gulp them down, and we can all fertilize our lawns with Grade A, Illinois-made, Asian carp fertilizer. The other Great Lakes states, who all hate the Asian carp too, can follow suit. The added benefit is that for every Asian carp that your kitten eats or you bury under your roses, the demand for other fish species and chemical-laden fertilizer decreases.

 

So let's train fleets of fishermen to catch these things. Put people to work by putting a bounty on the Asian carp. Starting in 2002, the State of Louisiana offered $4 for every nutria, a rodent that was destroying coastal wetlands. Since then, cities in Louisiana have begun developing ties with markets in China, where the nutria is eaten. By establishing a market for Asian carp products, we'd be creating a steady source of work and income as long as the population survived.

 

An added benefit is that there would a fleet of trained, interested monitors out on Illinois waterways. These fishermen would have every incentive to track fish movement, know where they are, go there, and catch them. There would be no catch limits. If the fish is wiped out, so be it. That is, after all, the goal. Regular reports to IDNR would help track the population. With fewer fish in the rivers, the electric barriers likely would work better too, and we might realize the full value of that investment.

 

The principle of goal-oriented investment, which MPC espouses across our various issues, is that you allocate funding based on your ends, not on what means have been used in the past. We don't have to keep dumping poison and electrocuting these fish. We can choose a different way ... a way that creates jobs and contributes to the economy. The state can get the ball rolling with initial investment, then let the private sector and consumer demand take over. Lawsuits and rotenone won't kill the Asian carp for good, but the free market might..."

[ExiledInIllinois]

Wow... The more I dig the more amazing stuff I find (I wonder if it is true?).

 

Thanks for bearing with me... This thread will be a nice resource for accessing the information on this topic.

 

Somebody posted:

 

I've read about a scientist in Australia who's researching ways to get rid of invasive fish down there (they've apparently got a common carp problem). Apparently, fish eggs can grow into either males or females depending on what biochemical processes occur within them while they're developing. This scientist found a way to make all of the eggs turn into males. He also found that those males only had male offspring. That means that over a couple of generations the male to female ratio would increase, until eventually there are only males left. Without females the species can't reproduce and they die out. It might be possible to do that with these big head carp. The ahrd part is convincing the government and environmentalists that it's the right thing to do.

 

I wonder how true this is?