nucci Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Am I the only one a little intrigued by Michael Lombadi, who has publically stated that the Bills need to draft and sign FAs with the philosophy in mind of winning those late season and playoff games in cold weather ie big, dominating lines, big running backs and a strong-armed QB At least we know what he'd bring, a FO, coaches and players with this approach in mind. Don't most teams want this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Don't most teams want this? Teams with credible front office management, particularly at GM, draft for it. Teams that formerly coached by Dick Jauron without a real GM believe otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Someone had started a thread not too long ago on the idea of looking at Dave Gettleman - and I am all over that idea. I would be thrilled if he were hired. Love me some me... http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...=102234&hl= Giants are very good at finding LBs, OLs and DLs and the guy got his start during the crazy good Buffalo Bills years under Polian. He couldn't have come from a better run organization in the Giants. May not be flashy, but Gettleman is still my top choice for GM while admittedly not knowing any of these guys from a hole in the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Love me some me... http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...=102234&hl= Giants are very good at finding LBs, OLs and DLs and the guy got his start during the crazy good Buffalo Bills years under Polian. He couldn't have come from a better run organization in the Giants. May not be flashy, but Gettleman is still my top choice for GM while admittedly not knowing any of these guys from a hole in the wall. I just can't think of many pro personnel moves that the Giants have made in recent years. Though not letting critical talent walk is a big deal in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I just can't think of many pro personnel moves that the Giants have made in recent years. Though not letting critical talent walk is a big deal in itself. Kawika Mitchell (an excellent fit for their D in 07), Kareem McKenzie, and Antonio Pierce. I'm sure there are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 So all the concerns and worries that the Bills wouldn't hire a real GM can be set aside. They apparently will begin interviews after Christmas, according to linky. Apparently Ralph isn't as senile as many have insisted and really does intend to overhaul the team. Let the discussions begin has to who the new GM should be (assuming Shannahan doesn't come). Ralph has never been senile, although the posters who call him senile might be. Either that or just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 First off, based on your argument as to why RB is not qualified to hire/interview a GM, then how i RW anymore qualified? Secondly everyday all over the world people are interviewed and hired by people who have never done the actual job themselves. But they still hire a person for the job. RB will likely become the liason between RW and whomever this new football guy is. Will this new person need RB's approval to sign some player or coach. Not likely, on the other hand he will need RB's approval for setting a total player budget and things at that level. And something like the overall budget likely owuld have already been discussed and agreed upon between RB and RW. Will he need to work with and get along with RB, again yes. But the new person will run the football side of things. Are you actually buying this? One of the few things most of us seem to agree on is that Russ Brandon doesn't know the fine points about football and is unqualified to be a GM. As I've stated before, if the plan was to hire a real GM and give him the power to do his job well, Ralph Wilson would be doing the interviewing. It's obvious that if Brandon is doing the interviewing, then this is another snow job. He is not qualified to determine who would be a good GM, and he is being asked to hire someone as his own replacement. If someone is hired, they will be a glorified scout, given no real power (other than to make suggestions) and the world of the Bills remains virtually the same. Yes, Ralph isn't senile. I've never thought he was. He is actually a very smart businessman. He is squeezing out all the profit he can out of his "cash cow," and knows that this does not hurt the selling price of the team, because the real value is owning an NFL franchise. The new owners will change everything anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'm not re-assured of anything. Many other teams will be cleaning house after this season and some of them are dilligently pursuing top candidates right now. The Bills, OTOH, not only haven't interviewed anyone since the much ballyhooed Shanny drive-by, they publicly announce they're going on Christmas break. Meanwhile, there's a flurry of activity with teams in direct contention for the prize we seek. Christmas break? Bah Humbug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 David Gettleman or Michael Lombardi would be my choices. Then I'd look at Floyd Reese - maybe. But I don't get the fascination with Greg Gabriel. Sure he was from Buffalo. But the Chicago org. hasn't hit big time in terms of scouting college and pro players except for that one year. Plus they're struggling and are perennial almosts the last few years. How is that good? C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Look no further, the Bills have found their men...the Buffalo pu pu platter. Rick Mueller currently is in charge of United Football League personnel. He's a former personnel man with New Orleans. He's close with former Saints coach and ex-Bill Jim Haslett. I think Sundquist would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 David Gettleman or Michael Lombardi would be my choices. Then I'd look at Floyd Reese - maybe. But I don't get the fascination with Greg Gabriel. Sure he was from Buffalo. But the Chicago org. hasn't hit big time in terms of scouting college and pro players except for that one year. Plus they're struggling and are perennial almosts the last few years. How is that good? C I can see us getting Gabriel and him bringing Dick back to try and re-live 2001 again. Could you imagine Bills nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 David Gettleman or Michael Lombardi would be my choices. Then I'd look at Floyd Reese - maybe. But I don't get the fascination with Greg Gabriel. Sure he was from Buffalo. But the Chicago org. hasn't hit big time in terms of scouting college and pro players except for that one year. Plus they're struggling and are perennial almosts the last few years. How is that good? C I don't care that he's from Buffalo. The Bears have had pretty solid drafts with very few high picks. Reese seems like he's is a million years old (and BTW he's never won anything either). Lombardi is only popular because he's in media and he's outspoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I just can't think of many pro personnel moves that the Giants have made in recent years. Though not letting critical talent walk is a big deal in itself. It's hard to distinguish what his true role is with the Giants, but Gettleman was recommended for the Browns GM job by Ernie Accorsi. That's a pretty good endorsement in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It's hard to distinguish what his true role is with the Giants, but Gettleman was recommended for the Browns GM job by Ernie Accorsi. That's a pretty good endorsement in my book. that's definitely true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haven Moses Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 What about James Harris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Jimmy Raye is the man...../thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 So all the concerns and worries that the Bills wouldn't hire a real GM can be set aside. They apparently will begin interviews after Christmas, according to linky. Apparently Ralph isn't as senile as many have insisted and really does intend to overhaul the team. Let the discussions begin has to who the new GM should be (assuming Shannahan doesn't come). When the team is ranked 29 out of 32 for the past decade the big news isn't if the stubborn owner will hire a REAL GM but why hasn't he already done so? You act as if the owner should be awarded an execuctive of the year prize for doing something that is so basic: That is hiring a competent person to run his football team. Bringing back congenial Marv Levy who was clueless as a GM and then replacing him with Russ Brandon, a marketing specialist, set back this already fading organization by years. I'm not looking for any quick fixes. I'm not looking for BIG NAME hires to be the HC or GM. What I want is a quality GM hire such as Floyd Reese who knows how to rebuild a decimated franchise. This organization desperately needs a GM and staff who know how to evluate talent on the college and pro level. In my view it is important that a real football GM make the HC selection. There are a number of good GM candidates from very successful ooperations. I would prefer selecting someone who has worked in an organization which has a history of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Are you actually buying this? One of the few things most of us seem to agree on is that Russ Brandon doesn't know the fine points about football and is unqualified to be a GM. As I've stated before, if the plan was to hire a real GM and give him the power to do his job well, Ralph Wilson would be doing the interviewing. It's obvious that if Brandon is doing the interviewing, then this is another snow job. He is not qualified to determine who would be a good GM, and he is being asked to hire someone as his own replacement. If someone is hired, they will be a glorified scout, given no real power (other than to make suggestions) and the world of the Bills remains virtually the same. Yes, Ralph isn't senile. I've never thought he was. He is actually a very smart businessman. He is squeezing out all the profit he can out of his "cash cow," and knows that this does not hurt the selling price of the team, because the real value is owning an NFL franchise. The new owners will change everything anyway. Why do you think 90 year old Ralph Wilson is more qualified to judge potential GM's than Russ Brandon? The new GM will be the "football person" while Brandon handles the business side. Many teams are set up this way, & Brandon is VERY GOOD at what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 When the team is ranked 29 out of 32 for the past decade the big news isn't if the stubborn owner will hire a REAL GM but why hasn't he already done so? You act as if the owner should be awarded an execuctive of the year prize for doing something that is so basic: That is hiring a competent person to run his football team. Bringing back congenial Marv Levy who was clueless as a GM and then replacing him with Russ Brandon, a marketing specialist, set back this already fading organization by years. I'm not looking for any quick fixes. I'm not looking for BIG NAME hires to be the HC or GM. What I want is a quality GM hire such as Floyd Reese who knows how to rebuild a decimated franchise. This organization desperately needs a GM and staff who know how to evluate talent on the college and pro level. In my view it is important that a real football GM make the HC selection. There are a number of good GM candidates from very successful ooperations. I would prefer selecting someone who has worked in an organization which has a history of success. Actually not. I'm merely pointing out the fact that Ralph and Russ are in the process of looking for a "real" GM (or DFO) to over haul the team. This is something that quite a few posters here have insisted (1) that's it's the most important thing the franchise needs to do, and (2) Ralph will never do it or doesn't want to do it or some other negative minded connotation. Well, we now have some evidence that a search for a GM will be (or is) underway. So, I think all the people claiming Ralph will never do what it takes to win, need to ratchet the rhetoric down a notch or two. At least until we see who is hired. Then, we can all complain about the selection and how cheap a move it was. But, for the time being, there's is hope in Bills' Land. The team has contacted every big name HC on the list; they're looking to hire a real GM; they're claiming a complete overhaul is coming. Who knows where it will all end up, but for now at least Ralph seems to be making good on his words to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 It's hard to distinguish what his true role is with the Giants, but Gettleman was recommended for the Browns GM job by Ernie Accorsi. That's a pretty good endorsement in my book. I agree...and since I have said Ernie Accorsi is my #1 choice - I would be happy with anyone he reccommends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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